Big Brother 15

[l3ulvl]

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I feel like I'm missing something. I don't see how Aaryn's fish tank quip was offensive.

[bigeastbumrush]

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I feel like I'm missing something. I don't see how Aaryn's fish tank quip was offensive.

Offensive...meh.

Incredibly ignorant and unnecessary...yes.

Just look at her nonchalant attitude when she was confronted about the things she's been saying.

Rude awakening when she goes home.

[Sinner]

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I feel like I'm missing something. I don't see how Aaryn's fish tank quip was offensive.

She said the black fish stay on the bottom while the white fish go to the top, is she saying blacks always stay on the bottom while white always rise? Is she just talking about segregation? When you get down to it doesn't really matter specifically what she said about the fish in the tank. They have been around and heard so much of her racial comments (and there have been many) that any little thing she says about that subject is going to cause friction and rightfully so. There was no need for her to say anything like that when talking about the fish...but if your racist you will see anything as black and white and speak your mind on it. Just my take

[Majingir]

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She said the black fish stay on the bottom while the white fish go to the top, is she saying blacks always stay on the bottom while white always rise? Is she just talking about segregation?

If that's how she meant it then ya, it's racist big time. But if she just meant it like "one color of fishes are sticking together and the others aren't, it's sorta funny to see that happening with fishes of all things" type of thing than it wouldn't really be that bad.

I really thought she might have stopped and thought about what she said when Amanda was the one to confront her about it, I guess it's GREAT that Howard did AFTER Amanda because based on how she reacted to Amanda, if Howard was 1st, she would have went off.

Also......I'm

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MAD!

about who went home! And then

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Helen

wins HOH?!? Talk about a

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HORRIBLE

week! I am

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NOT

looking forward to this week. This episode proved that

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this season is gonna be HORRIBLE

[Sinner]

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If that's how she meant it then ya, it's racist big time. But if she just meant it like "one color of fishes are sticking together and the others aren't, it's sorta funny to see that happening with fishes of all things" type of thing than it wouldn't really be that bad.

I really thought she might have stopped and thought about what she said when Amanda was the one to confront her about it, I guess it's GREAT that Howard did AFTER Amanda because based on how she reacted to Amanda, if Howard was 1st, she would have went off.

Also......I'm

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MAD!

about who went home! And then

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Helen

wins HOH?!? Talk about a

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HORRIBLE

week! I am

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NOT

looking forward to this week. This episode proved that

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this season is gonna be HORRIBLE

Yeah just saying how what she said can be taken different ways from someone on the defensive of her previous racial comments ...but I didn't have a problem with

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Helen winning HOH and Nick going home, Ginamarie is having a breakdown it seems, and im sure Aaryn and Kaitlyn are also upset which is funny...Jeremy was getting a little to full of himself and I didn't care for his bully like ways toward Ellisa a couple episodes back. Should be interesting and pretty funny

[Majingir]

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Basically what I thought once seeing what happened today:

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[l3ulvl]

Re: Big Brother 15

Offensive...meh.

Incredibly ignorant and unnecessary...yes.

Just look at her nonchalant attitude when she was confronted about the things she's been saying.

Rude awakening when she goes home.

She said the black fish stay on the bottom while the white fish go to the top, is she saying blacks always stay on the bottom while white always rise? Is she just talking about segregation? When you get down to it doesn't really matter specifically what she said about the fish in the tank. They have been around and heard so much of her racial comments (and there have been many) that any little thing she says about that subject is going to cause friction and rightfully so. There was no need for her to say anything like that when talking about the fish...but if your racist you will see anything as black and white and speak your mind on it. Just my take

Thanks for the input, I guess I just saw it as an innocent observational joke, since the white fish and black fish were for some reason all swimming separately, as if they were segregating themselves from each other. The "whites rising to the top" didn't occur to me. I'd be surprised if she actually meant it that way, but I can understand the inference. Sorry guys for the questionable side topic, and I appreciate the replies Back to strategy discussion!

[Majingir]

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Back to strategy discussion!

Best strategy in this game...

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be friends with the person that the "fans" and producers all love. That's what Helen did and look what happened now.

And it's annoying hearing Candice talk about how girls never do good in BB and stuff...Does she not realize that in 2 of the past 4 seasons, a girl won it? She's acting like a girl winning BB would be a huge shocker or something.

[lilbiggio]

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I agree with everything except GM's vote. She has a HUGE crush on Nick. Why would she vote for him?

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GM voted Elissa. No way she is crying like her puppy died if she voted the other way. She went in on the house on the live feeds FWIW.


Nick for being the quote/unquote smartest guy in the house, played a stupid game this week. Probably got a little too cocky too fast thinking he had the numbers, when he didn't see the Spencer "Benny From the Bronx" like Angle right under his nose.

You don't neg on a power player to their face. Even if said person is offering up the most ridiculous ultimatum. You tell em' what they want to hear and hope like hell you get them before they get you. Dissing Elissa to her face got him on that block.

He didn't seal the deal with Jessie. How you got a girl riding you all day/night with clearly zero game strategy, and you can't secure her vote to keep you is beyond me. He should have put a down payment on that one a long time ago. That was insane that he didn't take advantage of that golden situation.




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Non spoiler thoughts:

Aaryn is horrible. I thought a lot of this was just for show or being careless but this broad is really going down a road that ain't going to end well. The house is very aware of her now, and her not showing any remorse is going to screw her over so bad. However on the flip, the longer she stays in that house, the more ratings CBS is going to get because people are going to start watching just to see her fail and get grilled by Julie.

+ Judd is playing a good game, dude has zero enemies in the house, I think the swiveling transition shot camera has had more screentime than him. Dude is invisible right now. At some point if he can win a HoH he could create some deals to secure him if things get sketchy.


+ McC WILL get played out by Amanda at some point. This is almost too obvious right here.

Alright, It's time for you guys to get in on those feeds. Buy it, do some researching through google if you gotta go that route, this gon' be a good week.

[Majingir]

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Anyone else notice how they no longer do the one on one interview with the HOH(before the live eviction)? I think it's because of BB Canada. After seeing what BB Canada did(conducting that interview with the HOH and the host,but intentionally showing it to the house), I don't think anyone in any BB game(assuming they've seen BB Canada) will ever be 100% honest to the host in those conversations(cause you never know if producers of another version of BB might have seen that and want to try it out...), so BB USA just scrapped doing those interviews, cause you know people will just give fake answers and stuff most likely.

[l3ulvl]

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Anyone else think the Amanda + McCrae showmance is awkward? She's my darkhorse right now

[IlliniM1ke]

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Also......I'm

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MAD!

about who went home! And then

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Helen

wins HOH?!? Talk about a

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HORRIBLE

week! I am

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NOT

looking forward to this week. This episode proved that

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this season is gonna be HORRIBLE

This.

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[kingkilla56]

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Well this MVP twist was a mega failure.

They need to strip this show down to the bare bones again and start over. Them trying to one up themselves has continued to taint the spirit of the game.


However, I am glad the "cool kids" took an L. They have been too confident thus far.

[C the Lyte]

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I've liked Spencer and Amanda from Day 1 and so far, they haven't disappointed.

The MVP thing is a good thought but poorly executed. And Elissa may be Rachel's sister, but she isn't Rachel.

[lilbiggio]

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I think the MVP has failed in the fact that it could have been this super secret power player that could cause paranoia in the house, and give folks that would have zero chance to make a power play like Judd, Jessie, Andy a chance to make an impact on the game.

I don't think if it was a true fair voting system that it would even go to the best game player. It would have gone to whoever could screw up the dynamic of the house the most.

I think it is lame that they have weaponized the MVP vote and America keeps voting predictably in spite of this. A person should not be able to go around making ultimatums on something two weeks in advance as if it's in the bag. A person should not be able to use this as a final words offer when on the block. That's lame.


However on the flip, the MVP vote has done precisely what it was designed ultimately to do. Save the obvious targets, and screw up the house.

In the two weeks that we have had it, the obvious house target has stayed. A person not playing the game properly has left. For right or wrong, the MVP vote has added a balance to the house that destroyed an alliance. Now the question is can it do it again?

If the MVP vote is used correctly like it was intended, then it should go to someone like Helen who worked with Candice to figure out the MC before it was too late, and reversed the house on to Nick. To be on the block, not have the #'s, and then get off the block and become HoH is some damn fine work right there.

If the MVP vote is used in a way to disrupt the power of the house, which I hope it would be, then it's got to go Jeremy to give him a chance because he's gone in the next 2 weeks otherwise.

If the MVP vote goes again to Elissa for no good reason in a week that her side already has the power of the house. Then yes, this thing would be getting lame as it would serve no purpose other than to extend Rachel's fan into the game. Eitherway going forward, I can't see BB ever letting someone get it this many times in a row again if Elissa gets it this week. A rule change would be needed.