Sons of Anarchy (Season 6)

[shugknight]

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I dont know what too say...Im so confused

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if someone could fill me in on the physco kid??? WTH!!
I didnt see that coming and i don't know how it all fits?

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He's the son of the girlfriend of one of Nero's men (Dave Navarro) Basically, the beginning of the episode shows a drunk mother who the child looks after instead of the other way around. Remember those guns Samcro gave to Nero in return for their loyalty? That was one of the guns the kid used in the shooting. So basically it's setting up a bigger crackdown on illegal gun supply and it will all point back to the MC.

I just don't understand why the writers went this route. It's a very touchy subject and the fact that we had one recently, won't sit well with people. It didn't sit well with me last night and it sure looks like it didn't sit well with alot of OS'ers. I get the point of why he did it, so it expands the story line a little bit, but the example they used was very distasteful. They could have went a different route but to use kids as an example was a .

[Beantown]

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I just don't understand why the writers went this route. It's a very touchy subject and the fact that we had one recently, won't sit well with people. It didn't sit well with me last night and it sure looks like it didn't sit well with alot of OS'ers. I get the point of why he did it, so it expands the story line a little bit, but the example they used was very distasteful. They could have went a different route but to use kids as an example was a .

To be fair, Sutter did warn everyone.

I am...

Yeah. I don't know. Damn, what a scene.

[HealyMonster]

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He's the son of the girlfriend of one of Nero's men (Dave Navarro) Basically, the beginning of the episode shows a drunk mother who the child looks after instead of the other way around. Remember those guns Samcro gave to Nero in return for their loyalty? That was one of the guns the kid used in the shooting. So basically it's setting up a bigger crackdown on illegal gun supply and it will all point back to the MC.

I just don't understand why the writers went this route. It's a very touchy subject and the fact that we had one recently, won't sit well with people. It didn't sit well with me last night and it sure looks like it didn't sit well with alot of OS'ers. I get the point of why he did it, so it expands the story line a little bit, but the example they used was very distasteful. They could have went a different route but to use kids as an example was a .

I don't understand how its "distasteful". Is it distasteful in movies when serial killers kill people? How bout when the dude in jail got raped, or his eyes cut out, or he bit his tongue off? Its a show, and just because there was a school shooting a year ago in now way makes it distasteful for one to be shown in a show, especially one with as much violence as in this one. You either just want something to complain about and feel justified in complaining about this, or you need to quit being so sensitive. Man up.

[AUChase]

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I do find it strange that people are okay watching a show that features rape, porn, drugs, illegal guns, mindless killing, digging up dead bodies, drowning people in someone's urine, burning people alive, etc. and they pinpoint that one thing to get upset about. Just a few seasons ago there was a shooting at a memorial service and they showed a little kid who had been shot too.

If they did it two years ago would it be as big of a deal ? {Serious Question}

Then again, I don't get offended by very much. It was indeed shocking, but I don't have a problem with it at all.

[jeremym480]

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I just thought that it was unnecessary. However, if they wanted to make it more believable then they should have had an older shooter. Someone in the 15-18 year old range would have been much more convincing.

[shugknight]

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I just thought that it was unnecessary. However, if they wanted to make it more believable then they should have had an older shooter. Someone in the 15-18 year old range would have been much more convincing.

That's exactly how I feel. It was unnecessary. They could have easily shown the drunk girlfriend kill a cop with the gun. Or shown a gangbanger shooting up a neighborhood of innocent civilians.

But instead, they went far beyond their reach and used kids to try and paint a picture of how the MC's gun business is ruining the town. It was completely unnecessary. We would have gotten the same message if that kid used the same gun to kill Unser.

But to use the scenario of him using it on a school? I don't buy it.

I don't understand how its "distasteful". Is it distasteful in movies when serial killers kill people? How bout when the dude in jail got raped, or his eyes cut out, or he bit his tongue off? Its a show, and just because there was a school shooting a year ago in now way makes it distasteful for one to be shown in a show, especially one with as much violence as in this one. You either just want something to complain about and feel justified in complaining about this, or you need to quit being so sensitive. Man up.

Man up? lol Internet tough guy at it's finest.

All the raping, killing, burning, drowning victims were all adults.

Would you be fine if they showed a kid being raped?

[AUChase]

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I think they could have found a way around it and a way to keep guns relevant without going this route, but it does bring a sense of realism to the TV Show.

I have to give Kurt Sutter credit there. When you start relating real life events to a TV show, it becomes more believable and real. That's something a lot of people say they want out of their TV shows and then when they get it they can't handle it. I'm of the opinion that It's good for the show, especially when you get to the 6th and 7th seasons and you're running on fumes.

Kurt Sutter is a smart character, I'm sure he expected some controversy and backlash.

[HealyMonster]

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That's exactly how I feel. It was unnecessary. They could have easily shown the drunk girlfriend kill a cop with the gun. Or shown a gangbanger shooting up a neighborhood of innocent civilians.

But instead, they went far beyond their reach and used kids to try and paint a picture of how the MC's gun business is ruining the town. It was completely unnecessary. We would have gotten the same message if that kid used the same gun to kill Unser.

But to use the scenario of him using it on a school? I don't buy it.



Man up? lol Internet tough guy at it's finest.

All the raping, killing, burning, drowning victims were all adults.

Would you be fine if they showed a kid being raped?

Internet tough guy? not sure where thats coming from, man up = quit being so sensitive. They didn't "show" anything. they showed the kid going in, and then you hear gun shots. If there was a kid being raped shown, then yes obviously that's too far, but that's also not what we are talking about. that didn't happen. My argument to you is about it being "distasteful". I dont agree, and i feel like if you feel that way, its your right to do so, but also you are most likely being too sensitive towards a fictional, violent, TV Show.

[AUChase]

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I actually just had a great conversation with four of my co workers about last night's episode. It's funny how everyone's perspective of things is different, especially in regards to what OSers find controversial.

Everyone I work with felt like the entire episode was brilliant.

So maybe it's not as controversial as I think it is.

[shugknight]

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Internet tough guy? not sure where thats coming from, man up = quit being so sensitive. They didn't "show" anything. they showed the kid going in, and then you hear gun shots. If there was a kid being raped shown, then yes obviously that's too far, but that's also not what we are talking about. that didn't happen. My argument to you is about it being "distasteful". I dont agree, and i feel like if you feel that way, its your right to do so, but also you are most likely being too sensitive towards a fictional, violent, TV Show.

Yes its a fictional and violent tv show. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do on it. Like I said, they could have easily portrayed the same situation in a different scenario.

They could have used some lonely old man that shot up a movie theater, or an ex rogue cop killing active duty cops or had some bastard randomly shooting people in the back of his car. All would have gave us the same scenario the scene did last night. That the guns the MC is selling is bad for the community.

But instead, Sutter went the extra distance, to put controversy into the scene. By doing this instead of any of the other scenarios I have listed above, it would generate buzz in the media and on the internet. Which would equal more views. If they showed a random killing, or a guy being drowned in piss, everyone would have just said "that's Sons of Anarchy" for you and nobody think twice about it.

And they did show something. They showed the kid going in, you hear gun shots, blood splatters on the window, then you see parents, firemen in disgust with what they saw inside the school. What do you think he did? Don't be naive and say just because they didn't show it on screen, that it's ok.

[jeremym480]

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I don't mind that the Son's gun running finally blew back on them and the community. I actually like that plot-line, especially if the gun can be tied back to them somehow. If they can then that could be a huge turning point in the show. With that said, I still think it could have been handled in a better (ie. more realistic) fashion.

I pretty much agree with a lot of what Shug just said. I think Sutter purposely had the young kid do the killing just to spark controversy - which in turn creates publicity (good or bad) and gets everyone talking about SoA.

He could have easily had the same effect with the examples Shug just gave or like I said earlier used an older student going into a high school instead. In fact, a show that also airs on FX had a much, much more graphic high school massacre about two years ago and I don't really recall much negative being said about it. Of course, this was pre-Sandy Hook, so that could have something to do with it as well.

As far as the rest of the show it was kind of meh to me. A new season, a new business partner, a new brothel, etc. Gemma threatening the lawyer, the lawyer telling Jax not to show up at Tara's court date, which sent Jax into the arms of the "Madam" reminds me of a bad soap opera story-line. Also if they would cut down on the sappy heart-string pulling montages that the seem to do in every episode, then they could probably keep these under an hour.

[AUChase]

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I wonder how the retired DA guy's addiction will play into the story line ? I could see something like that leading to his demise for sure.

Also, I think it's funny how Sutter slides past with showing the occasional *** and quick nip slip on cable TV. It's never long and always subtle.. flying just under the regulations set. I think this guy will strike gold again down the road after SoA is long gone.

I can't remember the woman's name who runs the brothel, but wasn't she also the one running the brothel in Justified ?

I was also almost positive that was Dave Navarro in last night's episode. I googled it afterwards and I was correct.

[Noles4ever]

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What a great opening, I knew something was fishy about that damn kid but wow that was just even bigger then I thought but was a great twist.

[Segagendude]

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Sutter speaks:
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethe...ere-event.html

[HealyMonster]

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Yes its a fictional and violent tv show. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they do on it. Like I said, they could have easily portrayed the same situation in a different scenario.

They could have used some lonely old man that shot up a movie theater, or an ex rogue cop killing active duty cops or had some bastard randomly shooting people in the back of his car. All would have gave us the same scenario the scene did last night. That the guns the MC is selling is bad for the community.

But instead, Sutter went the extra distance, to put controversy into the scene. By doing this instead of any of the other scenarios I have listed above, it would generate buzz in the media and on the internet. Which would equal more views. If they showed a random killing, or a guy being drowned in piss, everyone would have just said "that's Sons of Anarchy" for you and nobody think twice about it.

And they did show something. They showed the kid going in, you hear gun shots, blood splatters on the window, then you see parents, firemen in disgust with what they saw inside the school. What do you think he did? Don't be naive and say just because they didn't show it on screen, that it's ok.

Jus' sayin:

How to be a man in 2013

Halfway down: Nobody cares if you are offended, just stop.

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