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  • Majingir
    Moderator
    • Apr 2005
    • 47458

    #811
    Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

    She should be the villain for next season. The Alchemy/Savitar stuff is good enough to go on the rest of the season, but Caitlin could team up with everyone and help them out for this whole stuff,and by the end of the season she is completely uncontrollable and turns on everyone which sets up S4 of her being the villain.

    Also, what was with Cisco being mad at Barry? Didn't they go through the whole Ciscos brother is dead because of Barrys change to the timeline stuff back in the first or second episode of the season? And didn't he forgive Barry or something already? But this episode, it's like he never knew any of this before?

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    • Speed_Deamon
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 52

      #812
      Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

      Originally posted by Majingir
      She should be the villain for next season. The Alchemy/Savitar stuff is good enough to go on the rest of the season, but Caitlin could team up with everyone and help them out for this whole stuff,and by the end of the season she is completely uncontrollable and turns on everyone which sets up S4 of her being the villain.

      Also, what was with Cisco being mad at Barry? Didn't they go through the whole Ciscos brother is dead because of Barrys change to the timeline stuff back in the first or second episode of the season? And didn't he forgive Barry or something already? But this episode, it's like he never knew any of this before?

      Different scenarios. From what I recall, Cisco was upset that Barry was unwilling to change the timeline to save his brother. Now, Cisco is upset again because now he finds out Barry did change the timeline. It hit him harder knowing that his brother was alive before flashpoint

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      • Leon
        An Old Trafford
        • Mar 2003
        • 4981

        #813
        Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

        Originally posted by Majingir
        She should be the villain for next season. The Alchemy/Savitar stuff is good enough to go on the rest of the season, but Caitlin could team up with everyone and help them out for this whole stuff,and by the end of the season she is completely uncontrollable and turns on everyone which sets up S4 of her being the villain.
        Except that Savitar/Alchemy really isn't compelling right now nor have they been any good as villains in what we've seen. Savitar also looks like a Decepticon reject.
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        • Speedy
          #Ace
          • Apr 2008
          • 16143

          #814
          Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

          The thing reminds me of Ultron in Avengers.
          Originally posted by Gibson88
          Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
          It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #815
            Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

            Originally posted by Leon
            Except that Savitar/Alchemy really isn't compelling right now nor have they been any good as villains in what we've seen. Savitar also looks like a Decepticon reject.
            100 percent in agreement

            Weakest parts of the story but i think Barrys co worker is too.

            None of these compares to wells or the early zoom

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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23665

              #816
              Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

              I don't think Julian was Alchemy before this episode. Savitar asked him to continue as Alchemy, and I took that to mean pick up where the previous one left off.

              I have a feeling Alchemy has been around as long as Savitar, and it hasn't just been one person since the beginning.
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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47458

                #817
                Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                I don't think Julian was Alchemy before this episode. Savitar asked him to continue as Alchemy, and I took that to mean pick up where the previous one left off.

                I have a feeling Alchemy has been around as long as Savitar, and it hasn't just been one person since the beginning.
                But he also seemed like he's heard the voice before,and wasn't exactly shocked to see Savitar. If he were to continue as Alchemy, then what happened to the other guy?

                Though,who knows if this episode means anything cause the crossover next week i think happens cause Barry messes up the timeline again? Which has now become a running gag on the internet(people bringing up how anything that happens in any show is probably gonna be changed cause Barry's gonna go back in time again lol)

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                • cavsfan2
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 3902

                  #818
                  Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                  I'm wondering if the show is gonna go against expectations and have Cisco be the one who goes bad while Caitlin stays good. We'll see though, I really like Caitlin as a villain, but I think Cisco in full-on Vibe mode could pose a bigger threat.

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                  • Majingir
                    Moderator
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 47458

                    #819
                    Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                    Don't know if they'd kill anyone off right now at least. If they're continuing to follow what Arrow has done
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                    Then S3 maybe whoever goes bad, is doing it just to get inside the villains ranks and take them out from within. S4 might have one of the main characters die though based on that.

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                    • Speedy
                      #Ace
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 16143

                      #820
                      Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                      Diggle was hilarious.
                      Originally posted by Gibson88
                      Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                      It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                      • Scott
                        Your Go-to TV Expert
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 20030

                        #821
                        Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                        Originally posted by Speedy
                        Diggle was hilarious.
                        The I've never done drugs line was awesome.

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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47458

                          #822
                          Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                          Flash writes Arrow characters better than Arrow.

                          Crossover episode pt1 was great. Everyone's interaction with Kara was funny. Also makes you realize just how much Supers>everyone else.

                          Oliver just stands out as the natural leader. Even when you had everyone there, they seem inferior to him in that level.

                          Almost forgot about everyone's history. Stein and Caitlin,Barry and Ray(Barry finally finding out about Snart) and others. Even Sara and Oliver, I think it's first real time in years we had regular Sara and Oliver together?

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                          • Speedy
                            #Ace
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 16143

                            #823
                            Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                            First time we've seen Gideon since S1...interesting change too. I hope that's implemented more as the season for Flash progresses.

                            I'm curious why Barry went to the future? I'm guessing that's a storyline that won't be pursued.
                            Originally posted by Gibson88
                            Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                            It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47458

                              #824
                              Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                              When did Barry go to the future?

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                              • Speedy
                                #Ace
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 16143

                                #825
                                Re: The Flash (Spinoff from Arrow)

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                When did Barry go to the future?
                                I'm not sure...that's my question. :P

                                There was a message on the iPod or something to not trust him that was from him, left for somebody else, 30 years in the future.
                                Originally posted by Gibson88
                                Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                                It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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