New HBO Series True Detective (McConaughey and Harrelson)

[bad_philanthropy]

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Not really a spoiler I don't think: for those wondering about why the body was posed, the fact that the two detectives in 2012 were investigating another one (the girl strung up on the bridge) might indicate it is some component of the ritual. Maybe these women did something in their lives to distinguish them from other victims?

[jeremym480]

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I'm going to have to agree with Seymour and Kingkilla on this one. As much as I loved the series the finale left me saying "That's it?". It almost felt was if there should have been another episode or two, but HBO said nope only 8 episodes so that had to wrap it all up in a nice pretty little bow.

Honestly, it kind of reminded me of Man Men in that there were all of the wild theories floating around and in the end they basically turned out to be nothing. It was just all on the surface the entire time. Things like the flat circle talk, Audrey setting the dolls up, etc. were just them messing us just to mess with us. In the end, I felt that some of the theories worked up my random people on the internet were better than the finale itself.

I also wasn't a fan of how Rust came off in the end. It just seemed totally out of character from what we've learned about him in the past 7 episodes. In the hospital when Marty told him that they "couldn't catch them all" he just totally accepted that. Didn't he just spend the last 20 years obsessing about this case and about how "rich men are doing horrible things" now he's just going to let it all go? Also throughout the entire show Rust has felt guilty and has basically wanted to die. However, after he has a near death experience and see's his daughter, plus has the added guilt of knowing that he already met the killer before, now he wants to keep living. Okay?

Honestly, I would have been much more satisfied if either a) they would have just said that Tuttle, Errol, his father, Ledoux and the drug dealer where the "Five Horseman" (at least that we have have closure with the case) and b) if Rust would have just ended up dying, but would have had his moment of "seeing the light/the light winning" just before death.

With all of that said I did really love the series. The acting, especially from McConaughey, was some of the finest that I've ever seen. The story overall was good, not great. I did like the way it was told over 20 years, but other than that it wasn't really anything ground breaking. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us in Season 2. Part of me would love to see a continuation of this story with new detectives, but I don't know if that could work. Either way it's going to have some big shoes to fill.

[jeremym480]

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I hate True Detective.
Now what am I going to watch???

The only shows I enjoy watching are this and Game of Thrones. Boo!

If you don't already watch it, then catch up with the Spaghetti Monster himself on Boardwalk Empire

Not really a spoiler I don't think: for those wondering about why the body was posed, the fact that the two detectives in 2012 were investigating another one (the girl strung up on the bridge) might indicate it is some component of the ritual. Maybe these women did something in their lives to distinguish them from other victims?

Either that or there could be someone in their cult who was an also a serial killer.

[kingkilla56]

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That's what I'm saying Jeremy. I feel like it was either rushed, left incomplete, or both. I still liked it but I feel like it kinda fell apart at the end there.

Plus I can see how some people would be upset with how Rust kinda flipped at the end there.

[fistofrage]

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One question I have, was Rust hearing voices at the end before the Boss Fight at the end or was it the Spaghetti Monster luring him into to the Yellow King Room.

I thought the finale was decent. Not great, but not bad. Overall really loved the series. I thought they did a great job with the setting for the final showdown. That place really was like Carcosa, a city that had always been there but no one could see. Looked like an old war of 1812 or earlier fort. Honestly though, this last episode came across like a series that had been cancelled and they had to wrap up everything real quick so they could show the viewers the end game.

It felt rushed. In the end, it was about what I had thought. The killer was hiding in plain sight and they could have prevented this much earlier. However, they left a lot of things unexplained. Like Marty's daughter who went off the deep end. She certainly was showing signs of abuse and many similarities to the cult actions. How can they be certain they implicated everyone involved. Why was the girl with the antlers strung up for people to see out in that field when most other victims were taken back to the Carcosa. Why did Marty shoot Ladoux? It didn't seem like there was the remorse I expected for them not catching the killer sooner when they came across him in '95.

Anyway, the story was about the characters, and they did a great job. Quality acting all the way around, except for the final scene where Rust is getting all teary eyed about seeing the light. It wasn't as much bad acting, just out of character from everything else, and if that was supposed to be the great turning point from Rust not being a believer to being one, it didn't deliver.

Can't wait to see what they bring into season 2. Just going to concentrate on the characters though. This series isn't a who dunnit or a puzzle where you have to piece things together or search for easter eggs which is a little unfortunate, because with a finite number of episodes, the writers could get really creative in that department as they wouldn't have to worry about painting themselves in a corner like other shows do who wonder if they are going to get extra seasons, etc.

[PantherKing1983]

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Underwhelmed

Thats how the final episode left me feeling.

Like others have said it just felt incomplete and or rushed.

[Chrisksaint]

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Marty's wife got remarried. Remember that big house she was living in when Marty talked to her last episode. And judging by that house and the rock on her finger, she married a pretty rich guy.

Must have missed that part somehow, figured she just did well for herself afterwards. Either way that emotional moment was enough for me to close it up with his family.

I thoroughly enjoyed the character development and never looked too much into any theory cause well there's too many crazy things out there if you really want to get into it. I'm gonna have a hard time watching S2 as I absolutely loved everything about Marty/Rust

[Bmore Irish]

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It's funny because the writer/creator, Nic Pizzolatto, said in an interview that Rust's turn to a more optimistic, hopeful outlook was meant to be his destination from the beginning of the show. I'm sure Marty's destination was also predetermined, making it more about the journey for the two detectives, not necessarily the case itself. I'm ok with still having questions at the end. As Rust once said, "nothing is ever solved."

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[Chrisksaint]

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I'm ok with still having questions at the end. As Rust once said, "nothing is ever solved."

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I feel like that's the main point of the show. Throughout the show there were many things from a bureaucracy standpoint holding them back from solving the case. Nothing was really looked into with the Senator as it sounds like he was cleared and the "We may not get everyone, but we got our guy" line really sealed it for me.

[fistofrage]

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Underwhelmed

Thats how the final episode left me feeling.

Like others have said it just felt incomplete and or rushed.

Yeah, as the finale reviews come in, they are pretty much all saying the same thing, great acting, great series, weak sauce ending with a basket full of worthless easter eggs and a side of red herring.

[JayBee74]

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Yeah, as the finale reviews come in, they are pretty much all saying the same thing, great acting, great series, weak sauce ending with a basket full of worthless easter eggs and a side of red herring.

Really? There are a lot of positive finale reviews.

[aholbert32]

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Really? There are a lot of positive finale reviews.

Yeah most of the reviews I read were positive.

For the most part, the negatives are from folks who made up trick and twist ending theories and were disappointed when the killer/Yellow King was the same guy the show said it was last week.

It wasnt Rust. It wasnt Cohle. It wasnt the father in law. It was the guy they said it was last week.

No lie, I laughed at a bunch of the wild theories people were throwing out there because 1) the show hasnt been big on twists in the first 7 episodes so why would I expect one in the last one and 2) people were just setting themselves up to be disappointed if there wasnt a twist.

[fistofrage]

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Yeah most of the reviews I read were positive.

For the most part, the negatives are from folks who made up trick and twist ending theories and were disappointed when the killer/Yellow King was the same guy the show said it was last week.

It wasnt Rust. It wasnt Cohle. It wasnt the father in law. It was the guy they said it was last week.

No lie, I laughed at a bunch of the wild theories people were throwing out there because 1) the show hasnt been big on twists in the first 7 episodes so why would I expect one in the last one and 2) people were just setting themselves up to be disappointed if there wasnt a twist.

The series was outstanding. The only thing that I'm semi-disappointed about is the non-reaction from the fact they could have had this guy a long time ago. I didn't expect some huge twist. I did expect it to be revealed that the father-in-law was involved in the cult and Marty's daughter had been frogged with, but I didn't expect it to be of any consequence as far as the ending went other than the evil was in plain sight all along.

But its the director's story to tell not ours. We are just the viewers. The lair of the yellow king was really well done. I have to re-watch the episode again. I couldn't tell when I was watching it if Rust was hearing voices or Spaghetti man was leading him into the lair.

Here is a review that pretty much touches on all the points that I could see having issue with....

http://www.pajiba.com/tv_reviews/how-the-true-detective-finale-demonstrated-that-its-great-smallscreen-cinema-but-lousy-literary-tv.php#.Ux4no3jD-Uk

But I'm not disappointed at all in the 8 hours I invested in the series. Looking forward to a season 2.

[Bmore Irish]

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Yeah most of the reviews I read were positive.

For the most part, the negatives are from folks who made up trick and twist ending theories and were disappointed when the killer/Yellow King was the same guy the show said it was last week.

It wasnt Rust. It wasnt Cohle. It wasnt the father in law. It was the guy they said it was last week.

No lie, I laughed at a bunch of the wild theories people were throwing out there because 1) the show hasnt been big on twists in the first 7 episodes so why would I expect one in the last one and 2) people were just setting themselves up to be disappointed if there wasnt a twist.

All the bitter people on the IMDB message boards who had their asinine theories ruined were hilarious.

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[ODogg]

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I liked the finale...I don't know why everyone was so sure there was going to be a huge twist. Going to be a long wait to season two though,,,