Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)
@KingKilla you are a victim of your own expectations. I'm guilty as well. Expectations derived from other works of fiction. That proclaimed good guys have to win in the end. Or atleast appear to have a glimmer of hope.
Regarding Theon. Taken hostage at the age of 10 and raised for years by his father's enemy Ned Stark. Theon bonds with the Stark children and at times even saves their lives.(Bran against wildlings / fights along Robb in battle). To help them even more he goes back home to ask for help to sure up the North for Robb.
He yearns for the approval of his farther, but is denied. His father sends him back to the north to siege it. He is ultimately caught and tortured by Ramsey Bolton. Flaying skin, cutting off his man hood, purposefully allowing him to escape only to catch and punish him more.
His blood sister whom he hardly knows and humiliated him when he returned home comes to rescue him. By then he is "Reek" and thinks it a ruse and refuses to leave.
The bath tub scene wasn't an exhibition of strength. Sansa by even agreeing to the marriage before arriving in Winterfel shows her strength. This is the same girl
- saw her father beheaded
- beaten by kings guard
- threatened rape by Jofffey
- is 10 seconds from being raped in riot
- almost thrown off a mountain via her aunt's Moon door.
A no name jealous girl charged with bathing her is more annoyance than anything.
The final scene was about BOTH OF THEM.
Sansa knew it was coming, but she is losing her virginity which is scary for any girl (including Brienne's big ***) her showing fear while being coerced into sex does not automatically make her weak or broken.
Theon basically just mirrored the face of most of the audience including me. Many of which still believed in their hearts that some how poor Sansa would be saved by last second heroics.
Showing Theons face was the best route to get anguish and shock value (same with Jaime's mutilation).
Can you imagine if they'd really shown Sansa face jerking back and forth on screen? It would've seemed less rape and more sensationalized porn.
Tyrion said it best
@KingKilla you are a victim of your own expectations. I'm guilty as well. Expectations derived from other works of fiction. That proclaimed good guys have to win in the end. Or atleast appear to have a glimmer of hope.
Regarding Theon. Taken hostage at the age of 10 and raised for years by his father's enemy Ned Stark. Theon bonds with the Stark children and at times even saves their lives.(Bran against wildlings / fights along Robb in battle). To help them even more he goes back home to ask for help to sure up the North for Robb.
He yearns for the approval of his farther, but is denied. His father sends him back to the north to siege it. He is ultimately caught and tortured by Ramsey Bolton. Flaying skin, cutting off his man hood, purposefully allowing him to escape only to catch and punish him more.
His blood sister whom he hardly knows and humiliated him when he returned home comes to rescue him. By then he is "Reek" and thinks it a ruse and refuses to leave.
The bath tub scene wasn't an exhibition of strength. Sansa by even agreeing to the marriage before arriving in Winterfel shows her strength. This is the same girl
- saw her father beheaded
- beaten by kings guard
- threatened rape by Jofffey
- is 10 seconds from being raped in riot
- almost thrown off a mountain via her aunt's Moon door.
A no name jealous girl charged with bathing her is more annoyance than anything.
The final scene was about BOTH OF THEM.
Sansa knew it was coming, but she is losing her virginity which is scary for any girl (including Brienne's big ***) her showing fear while being coerced into sex does not automatically make her weak or broken.
Theon basically just mirrored the face of most of the audience including me. Many of which still believed in their hearts that some how poor Sansa would be saved by last second heroics.
Showing Theons face was the best route to get anguish and shock value (same with Jaime's mutilation).
Can you imagine if they'd really shown Sansa face jerking back and forth on screen? It would've seemed less rape and more sensationalized porn.
Tyrion said it best
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