Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

[Leon]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Initial feelings, to the tune of 2Pac's Hit 'Em Up:

Well this is how we gonna' do this:
**** Alliser Thorne,
**** Ollie,
**** the Night's Watch as a staff, sworn brothers, and as a mother ****ing crew.
And if you want to be down with the Night's Watch,
Then **** you too.
Westeros, **** you too.
All you mother ****ers,
**** you too.

After 30 minutes:
NO! It's too much of a coincidence for Melisandre to be back at Castle Black. She was surprised by Thoros being able to resurrect Berric Dondarion, so I would only assume she would gain this knowledge for some sort of emergency in the future. This being one of them. Yes, Jon is dead. Kit Harrington says he's not coming back. The showrunners say he's dead. Great smokescreen. I don't know how long it'll take but my boy Valyrian Steel will come back, I'm sure of it. And as others have mentioned, Jon dead = his watch is ended = come back to life as a free man, leading the North and the rest of the realm against the White Walkers. And if I'm wrong about all of this, we can sing what's posted on top.

Now I know what Maester Aemon really meant when he said "kill the boy," that mother****ing snake Ollie.

Episode as a whole, wow that's a lot of setup for a finale! Lannisters declaring war on Dorne?; Sansa x Theek (since he's not fully Theon or Reek now); Arya going assassin's creed to Daredevil; Daenerys being threatened, or is she being recognized as the Mother of Dragons, THE KHALEESI of the Great Grass Sea? Nice to see the Dothraki come back after so long.

[ehh]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

It's too much of a coincidence for Melisandre to be back at Castle Black. She was surprised by Thoros being able to resurrect Berric Dondarion, so I would only assume she would gain this knowledge for some sort of emergency in the future.

The funny thing is that if she has this ability then why not use it to resurrect her main man Stannis? Because she told Jon she saw something in him? I guess...

[N51_rob]

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The funny thing is that if she has this ability then why not use it to resurrect her main man Stannis? Because she told Jon she saw something in him? I guess...

I think she came to relise that Stannis wasn't Azor Ahai like she thought he was. Seems odd, that this realization didn't come from the flames, it came after the sell swords left and took the horses with them.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

If Jon is brought back and has all the normal capabilities he had prior to his death then it would literally be a Disney moment. I dont care what Jon's destiny was or who his parents are. Other characters have had destinies and been killed off brutally. What exactly makes Jon so special? It wouldnt go along with the tone and themes the show has beaten us over the head with for 5 seasons now.

There is a precedent to revival, and it has nothing to do with Cersai, LionsfanNJ. When someone is brought back to life, they come back as a shell of themselves. Khal Drogo became a vegetable. Wildlings became wights. The Mountain became a mindless husk. You can reference the guy who is apparently immortal from like season 1 or two, I forget his name. But if that happens to Jon, it would have wrecked the themes the show has built up since Season 1 episode 9. Why anyone wants that to happen just so pretty Jon is revived is beyond me. He suffered from the same stuff Ned and Robb suffered from, and they all died because of it. Inability to see what consequences his actions have. He had no finesse and it got him killed. They telegraphed it all season long.

[N51_rob]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

If Jon is brought back and has all the normal capabilities he had prior to his death then it would literally be a Disney moment. I dont care what Jon's destiny was or who his parents are. Other characters have had destinies and been killed off brutally. What exactly makes Jon so special? It wouldnt go along with the tone and themes the show has beaten us over the head with for 5 seasons now.

There is a precedent to revival, and it has nothing to do with Cersai, LionsfanNJ. When someone is brought back to life, they come back as a shell of themselves. Khal Drogo became a vegetable. Wildlings became wights. The Mountain became a mindless husk. You can reference the guy who is apparently immortal from like season 1 or two, I forget his name. But if that happens to Jon, it would have wrecked the themes the show has built up since Season 1 episode 9. Why anyone wants that to happen just so pretty Jon is revived is beyond me. He suffered from the same stuff Ned and Robb suffered from, and they all died because of it. Inability to see what consequences his actions have. He had no finesse and it got him killed. They telegraphed it all season long.

Beric Dondarian came back and only suffered scars and damage from what killed him. Blind in one eye from a spear or arrow....Jon would have what trouble breathing and drinking alcohol based on being stabbed in the liver, lungs, maybe heart. I don't know just speculating. Perhaps his death has finally "killed the boy" and he will be the first Stark to say **** honor and "what is right" to play the Game of Thrones to win?

[rdnk]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Beric Dondarian came back and only suffered scars and damage from what killed him. Blind in one eye from a spear or arrow....Jon would have what trouble breathing and drinking alcohol based on being stabbed in the liver, lungs, maybe heart. I don't know just speculating. Perhaps his death has finally "killed the boy" and he will be the first Stark to say **** honor and "what is right" to play the Game of Thrones to win?

Dondarian also lost parts of his memory every time he was brought back.

[erickonasis]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Damn that walk of shame was harsh, I almost felt bad for Cersei...almost. Great job by Lena Headey, i would be laughing my *** off if I had **** on my shoulder.

One of the best scenes of ever witnessed. Didn't feel sorry for her. That nun with the bell>>>>>

[jb12780]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

One of the best scenes of ever witnessed. Didn't feel sorry for her. That nun with the bell>>>>>

SHAME!!!

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[tdawg3782]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Man. Another year another good guy goes down. But as a book reader I already figured it would go down like that.

I am surprised and how anticlimactic the Stannis ending was. Man what a waste of storyline that was.

The Dragon being sleepy and Daneryas wandering off only to be surrounded by a **** ton of dothraki? Um...okay.

That Cersi scene was good. She finally got hers, if only for awhile.

I have to admit I completely didn't even think about the princess getting poisoned. I just thought it was weird she kissed her on the lips lol. Of course there was a reason.

As far as Jon Snow coming back. It'll happen. Between the books and show his story isn't done yet. Not saying they should but it how the story had played out imo. I don't think it's cheesy/disney style either because how it was described in the books and a bit in the show. Seems believable.

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[Pokes]

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Beric Dondarian came back and only suffered scars and damage from what killed him. Blind in one eye from a spear or arrow....Jon would have what trouble breathing and drinking alcohol based on being stabbed in the liver, lungs, maybe heart. I don't know just speculating. Perhaps his death has finally "killed the boy" and he will be the first Stark to say **** honor and "what is right" to play the Game of Thrones to win?

Jon's biggest hang-up throughout the show was the fact he swore an oath to the NW that was binding until death. If he died, then he's now released from that oath.

[tdawg3782]

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Jon's biggest hang-up throughout the show was the fact he swore an oath to the NW that was binding until death. If he died, then he's now released from that oath.

Exactly. Now he can do what he pleases. Which will make things interesting.

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[Leon]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

One of the best scenes of ever witnessed. Didn't feel sorry for her. That nun with the bell>>>>>

SHAME!!!

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I wouldn't mind Cersei killing that nun. Found her irritating with all that "confess!" and "shame" nonsense. You gonna make someone confess in this world of Ice and Fire it better be delivered Oberyn style!

[kingkilla56]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Cersai getting shamed was hardly sympathetic. Ya'll remember what this woman has done right? The little naked walk of shame straight back to the comfort of the palace seems pretty pointless. Now she'll find a way to wreck the nun and the rest of the holy army and go on with her tyranny in Kings Landing.

Reminds me of people now liking Jaime. This the same guy who tried to kill Brann, got Ned ****ed up, killed his own family just to get free...and ya'll like him now because he and Bronn are funny? Well ok then lol.

Dondarian also lost parts of his memory every time he was brought back.

So basically if Jon is brought back he will become immortal? Is this really what ya'll want to see?

[Leon]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

So basically if Jon is brought back he will become immortal? Is this really what ya'll want to see?

Berric isn't immortal by any means. If Thoros isn't there, he's dead as dead. Every time Berric is brought back, he becomes less and less himself. Thoros finds it harder and harder each time to revive Berric.

And this isn't necessarily what we want to see, but the show definitely alludes to the possibility.

BOOK STUFF I've read about:

Spoiler

Probably moreso in the books because Jon has warg dreams; has dreamt of fighting "in flames"; Melisandre wanting to see Azor Ahai and only seeing "snow."

[ehh]

Re: Game of Thrones: Season 5 (aka A Feast for Crows + A Dance with Dragons)

Has Jon done any warging or has it even been alluded to in the show? I can't remember. I mix up a lot of details between the books/shows after five seasons.

Has TV shown anyone besides Bran warging? And the wildling from S2.