Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 8-9-18

[ODogg]

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 8-9-18

I didn't know about that. We've seen it twice already. It is a totally pleasurable 2 hour and 39-minute watch.

Yep if you google it you will find the story, gonna be a lot of fun!


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[AUChase]

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I think part of my disappointment is I didn't read much about the movie prior to watching and I had a bit different movie in mind. I think the acting was great, but it was a mistake catching it at 9pm. It wasn't a fun theater experience for me and I think the movie really insists upon itself. QT likes to show off his film knowledge and this one was a little too much for my taste.

I'll watch it again one day, but I'm in no rush. The interjection of Bruce Lee felt pointless. No real details or explanation about the "murder" of Cliff's wife. Silver lining was the casting, acting, etc. It was enjoyable to watch at times, but I could have done for some more implementation of the Manson family and a little less of some other stuff. I also don't think Margot Robbie had much of a chance to shine. She just kind of existed.

[JayBee74]

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The interjection of Bruce Lee felt pointless.

The point was it was hilarious.

No real details or explanation about the "murder" of Cliff's wife.

The vagueness was intentional. What did you want to see? The actual murder or non-murder? But there was a somewhat incriminating boat scene where the bikinied wife is mercilessly nagging Cliff.

It was enjoyable to watch at times, but I could have done for some more implementation of the Manson family and a little less of some other stuff. .

I could care less about those drug-fed useless soles' schemes for senseless killing. That would involve more of Manson anyway which QT purposely put way in the background.

I also don't think Margot Robbie had much of a chance to shine. She just kind of existed.

I think QT wanted to show Sharon Tate's sweetness and enthusiasm and Robbie hit it out of the park IMO. I loved the movie theater scene and the Hollywood party yellow shorts dance scene.

ADDED NOTE: Sorry if I said it before but Damian Lewis was a great Steve McQueen!!

[Caulfield]

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The point was it was hilarious.

kinda like Mike Myers in Inglorious Basterds or Jonah Hill in Django

I think QT wanted to show Sharon Tate's sweetness and enthusiasm and Robbie hit it out of the park IMO.

yeah, it was definitely a different role for Margot after Suicide Squad and I, Tonya. Cant wait to see her in Birds of Prey

[ODogg]

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I think part of my disappointment is I didn't read much about the movie prior to watching and I had a bit different movie in mind. I think the acting was great, but it was a mistake catching it at 9pm. It wasn't a fun theater experience for me and I think the movie really insists upon itself. QT likes to show off his film knowledge and this one was a little too much for my taste.

I'll watch it again one day, but I'm in no rush. The interjection of Bruce Lee felt pointless. .

Absolutely not pointless, that entire scene established that Pitts character was more than capable of handling himself, perhaps dangerous even, which would come into play later.

The character until then had been mostly an aw-shucks kinda likeable fella, that scene showed a different side..


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[AUChase]

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The point was it was hilarious.



The vagueness was intentional. What did you want to see? The actual murder or non-murder? But there was a somewhat incriminating boat scene where the bikinied wife is mercilessly nagging Cliff.



I could care less about those drug-fed useless soles' schemes for senseless killing. That would involve more of Manson anyway which QT purposely put way in the background.


I think QT wanted to show Sharon Tate's sweetness and enthusiasm and Robbie hit it out of the park IMO. I loved the movie theater scene and the Hollywood party yellow shorts dance scene.

ADDED NOTE: Sorry if I said it before but Damian Lewis was a great Steve McQueen!!

I would have liked to know the conclusion of the spat between Cliff and his Wife, but I get the need for intentional vagueness to keep the viewer curious.

The Manson "family" registered way high on the creepy scale. It was well done and I didn't need a full blown horror movie, but something more from them would have been nice. I could have used more of that than a 10-minute scene about opening cans of dog food (hyperbole).

Oh there's no doubt that Margot Robbie did a great job with her role. I read somewhere that she even wore some of Sharon Tate's actual jewelry for some scenes in the movie.

Good points. I can't put a finger on it, but I just felt overall disappointment from the movie. That's okay, though.. every movie doesn't have to be for me.

I can appreciate the casting, attention to detail, acting, etc. enough to justify watching it again one day. With a little more context next time going in, I expect to catch some things I didn't the first time around.

Absolutely not pointless, that entire scene established that Pitts character was more than capable of handling himself, perhaps dangerous even, which would come into play later.

The character until then had been mostly an aw-shucks kinda likeable fella, that scene showed a different side..


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I didn't get the "aw-shucks" vibe from him. He was a proven stuntman constantly putting himself in the line of danger for a paycheck. His entire demeanor, pet he owned, etc. all foreshadowed to me that he was about to beat Bruce Lee's ***.

[JayBee74]

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The Manson "family" registered way high on the creepy scale.

They did, but that "jailbait" girl (relax, she's 18+ in real life) registered OFF THE CHARTS on the HOTNESS scale.

I didn't get the "aw-shucks" vibe from him. He was a proven stuntman constantly putting himself in the line of danger for a paycheck. His entire demeanor, pet he owned, etc. all foreshadowed to me that he was about to beat Bruce Lee's ***.

I don't think Cliff's formidability was fully established just prior to the Bruce Lee fight but there was a small hint. Cliff loaned Rick (DiCaprio) his sunglasses and later said, "Give me back my glasses", to which Rick jokingly replied, "Take em". Cliff then cocked his hand back to load a right cross and Rick said something to the effect of "OK take it easy Green Beret" (totally paraphrased). This was nothing more than banter between two good friends but the Green Beret reference alone suggested that Pitt's character was not a pushover.

[ODogg]

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I didn't get the "aw-shucks" vibe from him. He was a proven stuntman constantly putting himself in the line of danger for a paycheck. His entire demeanor, pet he owned, etc. all foreshadowed to me that he was about to beat Bruce Lee's ***.

Ok, that's fine, the point still remains, the scene was crucial to prove how dangerous the character could be.

[allBthere]

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Quentin with this film is taking your expectations and not giving them to you. You're own expectations creates a sense of anxiousness that doesn't come or at least in the way you see coming.

The Bruce Lee scene is very divisive and here's my take, I posted on FB and am getting likes for it (yay!)

as a huge Bruce Lee fan, I agree with Quentin. One thing he also didn't add was that this scene was a day-dream by Pitt's character which I thought was really cool because we all create scenario's in our heads - so in that sense it's not even 'reality' so it doesn't matter if the Lee character is accurate or not, it's not a movie about Bruce Lee, it's a fictionalized day-dream scene. I think anyone who's bent out of shape about it needs to lighten up, holy sh**.

Some very unique stuff going on in this movie. I must say that i immediately didn't appreciate it as much, but it's actually growing on me well after the fact (2 weeks later!)

Even with the Bruce thing though too, Quentin is sort of like doing it just to mess with people and a big middle finger which is so hilarious. Crushing the snowflakes and I think it's hilarious. Bruce Lee is an untouchable legend and he's like, 'screw it, I'm going to make sure he gets his a$$ kicked' lol

[ODogg]

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I think what annoys me is not Bruce Lee losing but how the whole character was written to be arrogant and a bully type "full of himself" guy.

That's not how he was from all that I've read about him.

I know Quentin knows that's not how he was so why was the Bruce Lee character written in this way in the movie?


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[TripleCrown9]

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Because Tarantino is notorious for making his movies in a parallel universe and slightly altering history.

In his world, Bruce Lee is a dick.

[JayBee74]

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I know Quentin knows that's not how he was so why was the Bruce Lee character written in this way in the movie?

Tarantino's reasoning for saying that Bruce Lee said he could beat Ali is beyond flimsy. He claims the proof is in Lee's wife's book but the closest it comes to a Lee bragging is some film critic saying Lee could beat Ali in a fight. HUH???!!

I could care less because it's a great scene and gets people talking about Bruce Lee one way or another.

[Caulfield]

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I would pick Ali over Lee if they had tangled in the 1960s or 70s but if Lee had lived and they had got it on in the 80s, I would pick Lee.

[JayBee74]

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I would pick Ali over Lee if they had tangled in the 1960s or 70s but if Lee had lived and they had got it on in the 80s, I would pick Lee.

Lee would have been a stain on Ali's trunks. By 1980 Ali was 1/20th of himself.

EDIT: I wasn't really trying to diminish Bruce Lee. The "stain on Ail's trunks" remark came from Pitt's character in the movie (Although he used "Cassius Clay"). Those that did not see the movie take note of the fact that "Movie Bruce Lee" was complaining about how restricted he was in martial arts tournament because of the limits on physical damage that one could inflict and how he respected boxers like Clay and Liston because of the inherent dangers of their sport.

[Fresh Tendrils]

Re: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood 8-9-18

We saw it this past Sunday. It's a great movie and certainly one that kind of feels "under the radar" while you're watching it. The main narrative was great, but there's so much more happening in the background that I was pulled completely into this vision of 60s Hollywood. Brad Pitt looks more and more like Robert Redford everyday.