Big Brother 20

[p_rushing]

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I've been on the Tyler train all season but now I'm starting to shift to Kaycee. She's playing the honorable game that usually gets you tossed aside in BB, but she's backing it up with constant comp wins. It's crazy, even when she had the chance to dump Tyler she honored her final two. It's like a combination of ignorance and dominance, a pretty rare BB combination. Even though I've been pulling for Tyler all this time, it would be fun to see someone win while not lying, and instead annihilating comps.

We usually reward liars and snakes because that's just how the game is played, and I've been talking to my friend about how lying and scheming is how you win at BB, unless the jury gets mad, and she doesn't care, she wants an honorable loyal game, which is laughable to me, yet here Kaycee is, showing it can be done.

She would have been voted out if it wasn't for her alliance though. She didn't do anything until late in the game. Tyler, Angela, Brett, Rachel were doing the work while Kaycee sat back and made friends. She would have been voted out if Tyler wasn't keeping their side in power. Kaycee also wasn't shown strategizing at all, maybe she did on the feeds, but she literally wasn't even shown most weeks in the beginning.

Basically it was sit back and let other people do the work since no one was threatening me. Very similar to what Derrick did, but Derrick was running the alliance and strategizing.

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[Majingir]

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KC and Angela were like that. First half of the game everyone made jokes about them being "furniture". Once jury began, both went off and won comp after comp after comp after comp after comp.

It's impressive when you think about it, L6(specifically the 4) truly are the GSW(Tyler=Curry,Angela=Klay,Kaycee=Durant,Brett=Dr aymond). They win so much. Underappreciated IMO. Most dominant alliance in BB history.

Of the 14 veto comps, they won 11 (including the past 10 straight)
Of the 14 HOH comps, they won 7 (5 straight before JCs win). 1 to go, so it could be 8/15.

28 total HOH/Veto comps were held this year, L6 won 18 of them, and 15 of past 18(since jury began)! Of those 3 comps they didn't win, only JCs HOH resulted in a L6 member leaving.

Tyler at 6 comp wins
Kaycee at 6 (5 Vetos is tied for most in BB history)
Angela at 5

Tyler winning final HOH would tie him for the most in a single season (4 is a magic number for season winners. Since S12, Hayden, Rachel, Ian, Derrick and Steve have all won 4 HOHs and won the game). Him or Kaycee winning final HOH would put them 3rd in BB for most HOH + Veto comps won in a season. Tyler vs Kaycee in F2 would be interesting. I wonder if production might feed them stats. Could have most HOH reigns in history vs most veto reigns in history.

[l3ulvl]

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Not to mention the rare times they didn't win a comp the other side voted their own people out anyway lol

[JayhawkerStL]

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Not to mention the rare times they didn't win a comp the other side voted their own people out anyway lol

Twice L6 had two members on the block, and the group wisely chose to keep Brett each time, even though both times the other side wanted Brett out. L6 played flawlessly when they lost, which is a crucial element.

Often, that is when the things fall apart. But both times they knocked out the weak link, and neither saw it coming. The number of screws they were able to keep is pretty astounding. JC, who has a pretty good grasp on what was going on in the house was still oblivious to much of it.

And for me, KC was part of all that, too. She helped decide who to get out, how to execute plans, and then did what so many BB players can't do, and that's keep a secret.

[Majingir]

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That's what made L6 special too. It wasn't an alliance that was like "Alliance till the end.....Except a week later when someone feels on the bottom and turns on someone else and people tell non alliance members about the alliance". People knew how to react and how to keep secrets, which is so rare in the game.

People knew Tyler was close with Angela, and KC by association mostly, but nobody guessed Brett. L6 will be one of those moments on finale night that'll be fun to see how the jury reacts to it all. Too bad BB finales don't get proper reunion show. Seasons like this make me want a reunion show so we get a full hour devoted to the HGs reacting to in house moments they never knew about. I want to see HGs reaction to L6, and Faysal reacting to what JC said about him, and Bretts DRs about Rockstar and other things too.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Another waste of time episode.

[Majingir]

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Was a typical recap episode like you would have expected. Too bad they didn't have anything that new here. 90% was just recap. For an episode like this, at least air new things.

DR with people crying was pointless. As much as last season sucked, their DR scene was funny with HGs just requesting things for the whole segment, walking into the DR half asleep and so on.

Although, biggest piece of info to come out of this episode....Rockstar CONTINUED her rant in the DR! "Real Cute!............On my daughters birthday!!!"

[jake44np]

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Another waste of time episode.

Yeah, I turned it off after 10 minutes.
Such a waste, lets get it over already.

[Majingir]

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Yeah, I turned it off after 10 minutes.
Such a waste, lets get it over already.

That's a downside to how BB schedules the season.

From September 12-20 we had a regular veto episode, double eviction episode, hoh/nomination episode, veto/early eviction episode and then the nomination/veto/eviction episode. That's 5 episodes packed with things going on in a 9 day span.

From September 21-26, we just have a recap episode and then finale. So really just 1 actual episode of things in a 6 day span. By time we get to the finale on Wednesday, it seems like so long since the last episode since we've gone 3 months having 3 episodes a week, 2 days being the most consecutive days without an episode.

Season just drags out in the final week because of that. Sunday should be jury questioning the F3, and then P1/2 of the HOH comp and then the finale can just be P3/Jury voting(and F2 making their final pleas) and then the reunion show.

[JayhawkerStL]

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Honestly, at this point, I don't mind that I was spoiled on who wins the first two legs other final HoH competition. It would be even better if they just announced who the final two are, do the final comp and use the time they will waste on the first two legs to have a real reunion.

Because I would rather talk about who 1 or 2 will bring with them if they win over the next few days. With over 8500 votes, Jokers has results of who their members think will win in each possible combination.

Tyler 72 - JC 27
Tyler 52 - Kaycee 47
Kaycee 75 - JC 25

As for who they think will win:

Kaycee - 53
Tyler - 44
JC - 1

As for who they thin should win:

Tyler - 67
Kaycee - 29
JC - 2

Posting a screen shot of the 25K poll for ease:



I think most of that checks out. Interestingly, like the polls, I said Kaycee was likely to win, but when I predicted each vote, I actually have Tyler winning 5-4. It depends on Bay, to me. In the poll results it's Scottie that seems to be the deciding vote.

[Majingir]

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Tyler/Kaycee F2 will be one of most unpredictable F2 in BB history. Would be fitting to have given how Survivor last season ended. Whoever faces JC would win.

If it's L6 in the finals, I'd guess voting ends up like:
Tyler:
-Fessy
-Haleigh
-Angela
-Sam

Kaycee:
-Bayleigh
-Rockstar

JC/Brett/Scottie for me are tossups. But given at this point I have Tyler at 4-2, I like his odds. JC it depends on how he feels(either if Tyler votes him out, or if he finds out about L6 or the F2 deal), Brett was close with both, but we'll see how he reacts to how he got voted out(and what Angela tells him in the jury), and Scottie like you mentioned is biggest wildcard in voting. If Kaycee wins, I'd say it's 5-4. If Tyler wins, it's 5-4 or 6-3.

I believe they reveal jury votes based on order of eviction. Given that Angela/Sam and possibly 1 or 2 of Brett/JC vote for Tyler, Kaycee could be leading the vote total for most of the reveal.

[SuperBowlNachos]

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Too bad BB finales don't get proper reunion show. Seasons like this make me want a reunion show so we get a full hour devoted to the HGs reacting to in house moments they never knew about.

It makes no sense. They waste an hour on a recap episode, and then they have to cram in 3 comps and everything else into 2 hours. At least do something on CBS All Access after.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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It makes no sense. They waste an hour on a recap episode, and then they have to cram in 3 comps and everything else into 2 hours. At least do something on CBS All Access after.

It's an hour & a half. Premiere of Survivor is 90 minutes and then BB is 90 minutes.

It's going to be so rushed as always. Julie will announce America's favorite cast member while the confetti and credits are rolling.

[Majingir]

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It makes no sense. They waste an hour on a recap episode, and then they have to cram in 3 comps and everything else into 2 hours. At least do something on CBS All Access after.

3 comps where 2 of them many people know who won already(P1/2 happened inside the house before Sundays episode aired). So we'll spend first 30 mins of the episode on the HOH comps. Then 30-45 mins spent on final HOH and F2 part, leaving less than 20 mins of show left for everything else like pre-jury saying stuff that happened, announcing winner, and AFP.

BB way more than Survivor deserves a reunion show. While Survivors really is a reunion since the show ended months prior, you're getting people commenting on what they watched on TV(and as of past few years, just Jeff wasting time like interviewing the audience and bringing in celebs). BB you'll get HGs reacting LIVE to moments they never knew about before. That type of reaction you can't script or prepare for.

Who was the swing vote? Who was the mystery vote? What alliances happened in the house? What did people say about each other in the DR? Things like that would be good to see HGs reacting to.

[~LiverpoolRed~]

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Kaycee's juror answers were so vague. All her answers were so similar.

I would have been happy with either of them winning but I was sure Tyler sealed it with his final thoughts.