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  • KillRoy
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 1369

    #31
    Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

    Originally posted by jmood88
    Kutaragi has been talking bad about the 360 for awhile now. Moore isn't the only one doing it.
    Thats true and its a damn shame he does this... haha!

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52813

      #32
      Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

      Originally posted by LIGHTNING
      I think a good way to compare the potential performance of the PS3 and XBOX 360 is to use the analogy comparing the performance of two teams assigned to cut grass. Assume team 1 consists of three men each with one lawn mower Vs a team 2 consisting of one man with a lawn mower and seven other people with scissors. Now one team has eight members and the other only three, but they are not equivalent because seven people cutting grass with scissors are not as efficient as two people cutting grass with lawn mowers. Obviously this is a bit extreme, but do not assume just because the PS3 is better at floating point performance it will even equal the XBOX 360 at general purpose code which is very important.

      i hate word problems
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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      • luv_mist
        Older
        • May 2004
        • 9596

        #33
        Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

        Originally posted by countryboy
        i hate word problems
        Funny one on the real. On another note, how in the world do they give those systems their coding? Would they be able to reverse the coding and implement new coding? It sure would be nice.......

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        • mjb2124
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2002
          • 13649

          #34
          Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

          Originally posted by luv_mist
          Funny one on the real. On another note, how in the world do they give those systems their coding? Would they be able to reverse the coding and implement new coding? It sure would be nice.......
          Not sure what you mean about how do they give them their coding?

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          • luv_mist
            Older
            • May 2004
            • 9596

            #35
            Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

            I think I'm getting far ahead of myself. I'm just wondering what is the coding exactly? I know it's the ability of a certain system playing a certain game only for that region. It removes the ability to play imports. Is there a way for Microsoft to recode it for another region? Just take a grip of systems over there and make them NA friendly....I'm just tripping.......

            Disregard my pointless thinking.......
            Last edited by luv_mist; 12-18-2005, 09:50 PM.

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            • sdrotar
              OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
              • Jul 2002
              • 1055

              #36
              Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

              Originally posted by KillRoy
              In case you didn`t know this, the 360 had the worst Japan launch in console history. Thats right... console history. This is NOT a good sign for MS. Theirs about 50,000 360`s sitting on the shelves in Japan instead of in the hands of western consumers that would have bought it.
              Microsoft should have pushed back the Japanese launch - there were essentially no games that would appeal to a Japanese audience.
              They should have coded those units for Region 1 (North America) and had them over here. That's painfully obvious now.

              Don't declare the 360 DOA there yet, however (yes, bad pun intended).
              When Dead or Alive 4 and Final Fantasy XI get rolling in the marketplace, the 360 will become a lot more interesting to Japanese audiences.

              Will it overtake Sony? Hell, no - but it wasn't going to, anyway.
              Did this atrocious release strategy doom it? Possibly, but it's still too soon to tell.
              Shawn Drotar
              Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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              • KillRoy
                MVP
                • Jan 2003
                • 1369

                #37
                Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                Originally posted by sdrotar
                Will it overtake Sony? Hell, no - but it wasn't going to, anyway.
                Did this atrocious release strategy doom it? Possibly, but it's still too soon to tell.

                You`re probably right but I don`t think DOA 4 and FF XI will interest Japanese gamers that much because these games will come out on the PS3.

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                • Flawless
                  Bang-bang! Down-down!
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 16780

                  #38
                  Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                  Originally posted by KillRoy
                  You`re probably right but I don`t think DOA 4 and FF XI will interest Japanese gamers that much because these games will come out on the PS3.
                  DOA 4 is Xbox 360 exclusive, and I don't see FF XI coming to the PS3, because the 360 version is basically the same as the PS2 and PC versions.

                  Also, DOA 3 was the top selling Xbox game in Japan. DOA 4 will certainly help some.
                  Last edited by Flawless; 12-19-2005, 05:12 AM.
                  Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #39
                    Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                    Either way... if you've already been playing FFXI for years on the PS2 and PC, why the hell would you buy an XBox360 to play it??

                    That was one helluva stupid move. Relying on FFXI... c'mon. I love the system, but MS has no clue about the japanese market. Doesn't look like that will change.
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                    • countryboy
                      Growing pains
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 52813

                      #40
                      Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                      i agree with sdrotar, it really doesn't matter what games were launched with the 360 because the japanesse consumers want the ps3, and rightfully so.
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                      • Misfit
                        All Star
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 5766

                        #41
                        Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                        Originally posted by sdrotar
                        Microsoft should have pushed back the Japanese launch - there were essentially no games that would appeal to a Japanese audience.
                        They should have coded those units for Region 1 (North America) and had them over here. That's painfully obvious now.

                        Don't declare the 360 DOA there yet, however (yes, bad pun intended).
                        When Dead or Alive 4 and Final Fantasy XI get rolling in the marketplace, the 360 will become a lot more interesting to Japanese audiences.

                        Will it overtake Sony? Hell, no - but it wasn't going to, anyway.
                        Did this atrocious release strategy doom it? Possibly, but it's still too soon to tell.

                        I can't see that happening. I dont think many will buy a console just for those games, its more like the few who have a 360 will probably get DOA 4. As for FFXI, almost everyone who likes games already has a PS2 in Japan and if they wanted to play FFXI they would have by now. And since the 360 version is no different from the PS2 version, no one is going to trade in their PS2 version for the 360 one.

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                        • sdrotar
                          OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1055

                          #42
                          Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                          Originally posted by Pared
                          That was one helluva stupid move. Relying on FFXI... c'mon. I love the system, but MS has no clue about the japanese market. Doesn't look like that will change.
                          They have more of a clue then they had the first time - but not by much.

                          I'm really surprised that they could blow it this badly over there... and over here.
                          Word is that Xbox 360's could show up this week, but unless that happens - and a lot of them better be in stores in that case - then this release is nearly an unmitigated disaster on the whole.

                          It's too bad, too - because it's a spectacular system.
                          Shawn Drotar
                          Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52813

                            #43
                            Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                            well its evident now that microsoft really wasn't ready to release the 360. they just wanted to be the first out of the gate.

                            its a shame to.. caring more about a dollar than overall customer satisfaction
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                            • Victor99
                              Living The Dream!
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 1230

                              #44
                              Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              well its evident now that microsoft really wasn't ready to release the 360. they just wanted to be the first out of the gate.

                              its a shame to.. caring more about a dollar than overall customer satisfaction

                              Amen to that. I'm just another victim of the 360. It's in the process of being repaired as we speak at their HQ in Texas, God only knows when I'll get it back. This launch was indeed rushed, no question about it. Yeah, their first out of the gate, getting a jump on PS3 and Revolution, but at what price? Will it really be worth it in the end? It's about customer satisfaction, and MS dropped the ball big time. Don't get me wrong, I love the system, the games, the controller, and it's overall potential. What what good is it if there aren't any consoles avaiable and so many of them (including mine) don't work properly? I'm sorry, but when I pay hundreds upon hundreds of dollars for a product, I expect quality in return. Sorry for the rant, just kinda frustrated right now.
                              How I wish, how I wish you were here. We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl year after year. Running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.

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                              • Victor99
                                Living The Dream!
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1230

                                #45
                                Re: Microsoft boss attacks sony's ps3

                                Originally posted by sdrotar
                                They have more of a clue then they had the first time - but not by much.

                                I'm really surprised that they could blow it this badly over there... and over here.
                                Word is that Xbox 360's could show up this week, but unless that happens - and a lot of them better be in stores in that case - then this release is nearly an unmitigated disaster on the whole.

                                It's too bad, too - because it's a spectacular system.
                                Again, I agree completely. I really think the system is great, but MS didn't plan this thing out very well IMO.
                                How I wish, how I wish you were here. We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl year after year. Running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.

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