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  • sdrotar
    OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
    • Jul 2002
    • 1055

    #31
    Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

    I think this is a bit of a mistake.
    They won't sell too many, to be sure.

    Developers likely won't be able to use it for games, because not every system will have it standard.

    This was part of my beef with the "Core" and "Premium" systems to beging with.

    Console systems succeed because of standard hardware - no muss, no fuss for consumers. Any add-ons like this (see the PS2 hard drive or Sega CD - I could go on) never gain widespread acceptance because by nature, they can never be fully utilized, and I don't think this HD-DVD drive will be any different.
    Shawn Drotar
    Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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    • Kashanova
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 12695

      #32
      Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

      i can't see the dvd player being more then 200 bucks cuz it would be idiotic they should just give people wit them already free hd dvd drive's and the new 360 come wit hd dvds hey they would lose money but in the long run it's worth it

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      • Fresh Tendrils
        Strike Hard and Fade Away
        • Jul 2002
        • 36131

        #33
        Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

        If Toshiba's HD-DVD players starts out at $500 and Sony's Blu-Ray players start out at $1,000 like another poster posted earlier in this thread, I see more consumers buying the HD-DVD player over the Blu-Ray.



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        • stephenyoungchoi
          Pro
          • Sep 2004
          • 544

          #34
          Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

          Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
          If Toshiba's HD-DVD players starts out at $500 and Sony's Blu-Ray players start out at $1,000 like another poster posted earlier in this thread, I see more consumers buying the HD-DVD player over the Blu-Ray.
          If im not mistaken, I think the only bluray player is the pioneer one that cost $1800....

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          • Fresh Tendrils
            Strike Hard and Fade Away
            • Jul 2002
            • 36131

            #35
            Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

            Originally posted by stephenyoungchoi
            If im not mistaken, I think the only bluray player is the pioneer one that cost $1800....
            Even better.



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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #36
              Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

              Originally posted by sdrotar
              I think this is a bit of a mistake.
              They won't sell too many, to be sure.

              Developers likely won't be able to use it for games, because not every system will have it standard.

              This was part of my beef with the "Core" and "Premium" systems to beging with.

              Console systems succeed because of standard hardware - no muss, no fuss for consumers. Any add-ons like this (see the PS2 hard drive or Sega CD - I could go on) never gain widespread acceptance because by nature, they can never be fully utilized, and I don't think this HD-DVD drive will be any different.
              Oh c'mon, you KNOW the 32x was the ****!

              Another bonehead move from MS. I bought the system b/c it was the first on the block. I don't regret it, but things like this really piss me off.

              Damn my impatience.
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              • ThaGenecyst
                MVP
                • Sep 2004
                • 4404

                #37
                Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                no interest in this unless they have plans to have games on HD-DVD's at the same price as regular games.. if not.. i'll stick to dvd-9 movies lol
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                • SportsorDeath
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 2870

                  #38
                  Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                  Originally posted by stephenyoungchoi
                  If im not mistaken, I think the only bluray player is the pioneer one that cost $1800....
                  You are mistaken, actually. Samsung is releasing a Blu-ray player, which will actually be the first one on the market, for a grand.

                  Another thing to consider about the 360's external HD-DVD drive is the fact that due to the studios' paranoia about piracy, at this point they are limiting output of HD resolutions to only the HDMI port. That means that the 360's HD component cables will NOT carry the HD signal of those discs. Now, it isn't 100% set in stone that this will always be the case, as they still haven't completely ruled out being able to use component cables for it, but this first wave of players will only output HD through HDMI. Thus, if it holds, the external drive will likely have an HDMI output on the back of it, and maybe just let you connect to the 360 with USB just to power it.

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                  • CaptainZombie
                    Brains
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 37851

                    #39
                    Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                    I have a feeling blu-ray and hd-dvd won't take off like everyone expects them to.
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                    • Kashanova
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 12695

                      #40
                      Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                      Originally posted by fishepa
                      It's impossible to convert normal movies to HD.
                      no it's not i've seen it done plenty of times

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                      • dagger55
                        No end in sight...
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 7907

                        #41
                        Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                        Originally posted by Kashanova
                        no it's not i've seen it done plenty of times
                        you have been lied too.

                        its impossible to take a dvd, and project it in HD quality.

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                        • freezeframe
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 799

                          #42
                          Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                          Originally posted by dagger55
                          you have been lied too.

                          its impossible to take a dvd, and project it in HD quality.

                          Actualy im going to have to correct you here. You can play DVDs in 720P and 1080i and there are DVD Players that do this albeit expensive there are also less expensive ways like HTPCs, heck my Xbox 1 does this now with Xbox Media Center. Lots of Videophiles upconvert their DVDs to 720p and 1080i.

                          HBO and Cinemax do it all the time! They upconvert certain DVDs that are remastered in HD to 1080i.

                          There are also certain codecs that will actually output in 720P and 1080i that
                          will fit on a DVD5 or DVD-9.

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                          • dagger55
                            No end in sight...
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 7907

                            #43
                            Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                            Originally posted by freezeframe
                            Actualy im going to have to correct you here. You can play DVDs in 720P and 1080i and there are DVD Players that do this albeit expensive there are also less expensive ways like HTPCs, heck my Xbox 1 does this now with Xbox Media Center. Lots of Videophiles upconvert their DVDs to 720p and 1080i.

                            HBO and Cinemax do it all the time! They upconvert certain DVDs that are remastered in HD to 1080i.

                            There are also certain codecs that will actually output in 720P and 1080i that
                            will fit on a DVD5 or DVD-9.
                            let me clarify.

                            you cannot take a DVD like say, wedding crashers since it came out this week, and watch it in HD. Thats the whole point of HD and Blu Ray. Those formats can hold much more data, which is required to view a movie in HD. there is no way you can take a DVD, and watch it in true HD. it may upconvert to 720 or 1080, but thats not true HD.

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                            • Kashanova
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 12695

                              #44
                              Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                              Originally posted by dagger55
                              you have been lied too.

                              its impossible to take a dvd, and project it in HD quality.
                              but you can fill it up to a hd tv, i've seen the universal hd channel have movies from back b4 hdtv were even out and they did look better then the normal quality im not saying is gonna look like the nfl on hd or anything but it will look better cause i've seen it on the movie channels in hd

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                              • dagger55
                                No end in sight...
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 7907

                                #45
                                Re: MS announces EXTERNAL HD-DVD drive for Xbox 360

                                Originally posted by Kashanova
                                but you can fill it up to a hd tv, i've seen the universal hd channel have movies from back b4 hdtv were even out and they did look better then the normal quality im not saying is gonna look like the nfl on hd or anything but it will look better cause i've seen it on the movie channels in hd
                                i have seen those movies as well, and there is a clear difference between an HD movie, and a movie that was up converted. mainly the old movies on the hd channels dont look much better, they are jsut shown in natural widescreen.

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