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  • Misfit
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    • Mar 2003
    • 5766

    #16
    Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

    Originally posted by Behindshadows2
    Microsoft has no reason to drop their prices, no matter how much the PS3 is...The PS3 is not the big monster everyone thinks its going to be. Now we are adults here...use a little common since....

    Sony Vs Microsoft....The PS2 was the weaker technological system of the 2...in the last run....only reason Sony stayed on top was the year head start and more titles...and alot of exclusive.....

    What makes you think Sony's technology will overlap Microsoft a company who does computers and cpu gaming as a living...not just a recreation.....

    PS3 no doubt will be a great system in its own way. But unless your filthy rich you will never see it, or the graphics they promised...
    Buy a special dual av 1 t.v. that will run 1080p is like $10,000...not to mention in another forum a developer spoke out and said the only game they can see even running at 1080p would be tetris...lol....

    Sony's former strengths of exclusives are gone, THQ is bringing the smackdown vs raw series to 360, Square Enix is releasing Final Fantasy 13 and 14 on the 360. The team who makes devil may cry and onimusha combined teams to create lost planet exclusive to 360.

    Something is wrong with that and PS3. Even the guy who makes God of War decided to keep the series on the PS2 not PS3......Definitely some development issues with PS3 and thats a big weakness and a major Advantage Microsoft will have over Sony.

    Not to mention by Nov. 25th when the PS3 is releasing the US it is only getting around 340,000 to 400,000 systems....by that date..Microsoft will have over 6 to 7 millions units sold in the US and over 100 titles in stores....what makes you think they will drop the price...

    They have the upper hand in this Next-gen battle...and winning team should never lower their standards / prices if they don't have to.. $399.99 is a good price for all the 360 does....

    Your logic is a bit off-base. Do you honestly believe a one year headstart equated to a difference of over 20 million PS2's sold compared with the Xbox? It was the success of the original Playstation that made the PS2 a success. Sony still has the name brand and all of those millions who owned a PS2 are more likely to side with the PS3 than the 360. The PS3 has a clear market and it is a large one. I've said it in other topics, but the PS3 will be the top system again unless Sony screws up (which is very possible, we shall see).

    And as an aside, I have never read anywhere that Square is going to release future Final Fantasy titles on the 360 and I don't expect them to. Sony still owns a portion of Square-Enix (a smaller one than they held before the merger) and I would think that ownership is enough to keep Square mostly loyal to the PS3. At best, the 360 gets Final Fantasy XIII a year after the PS2 (but since XII isn't even available in the states yet, its probably going to be awhile before we see XIII).

    And God of War 2 is on the PS2 so they could get it out faster and capitalize on the first game's popularity while still releasing content for the PS2. It's a first-party title, so there likely isn't any reservations about the PS3 within the development team. What has a shorter development time: a game with an already crafted engine or one being made from scratch?

    And I don't know how many times it was said from the Anti-Sony, Pro-Nintendo/Sega/Microsoft camp that the difficult to work with architecture of the PS2 would be it's downfall and that certainly proved false. If a console sells, developers will develop software for it. The PS3 will have it's share of exclusives as will the 360 and both consoles will be widely supported.

    And even if Microsoft is unlikely to lower their price, as Sony, you don't give them the opportunity to anyways. Revealing a price at E3 offers Sony little gains but could harm them, so they are unlikely to reveal a price. The launch date will still remain a some-what ambiguous November release date, though we all know it will be around Thanksgiving/Black Friday.

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    • ps2king
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      • Jul 2002
      • 1508

      #17
      Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

      [quote=Behindshadows2]

      Microsoft has no reason to drop their prices, no matter how much the PS3 is...The PS3 is not the big monster everyone thinks its going to be. Now we are adults here...use a little common since....
      If we're all adults here I would hope we could all spell "sense" correctly

      Sony Vs Microsoft....The PS2 was the weaker technological system of the 2...in the last run....only reason Sony stayed on top was the year head start and more titles...and alot of exclusive.....
      The head start had nothing to do with the PS2's success...It actually hit full steam when Xbox/Cube came out.

      Last I checked Sony still has lots of exclusives; they have more internal studios than anyone in the industry

      What makes you think Sony's technology will overlap Microsoft a company who does computers and cpu gaming as a living...not just a recreation.....
      Correction sir; MS is a software company first and foremost...They don't make PC's or PC hardware... MS doesn't make their own hardware like Sony does. Sony owns their console manufacturing plants.

      The systems will be on even ground with 3rd party titles... First party games will show who has better hardware... But even then it comes down to developer talent

      PS3 no doubt will be a great system in its own way. But unless your filthy rich you will never see it, or the graphics they promised...
      Buy a special dual av 1 t.v. that will run 1080p is like $10,000...not to mention in another forum a developer spoke out and said the only game they can see even running at 1080p would be tetris...lol....
      You don't need a 1080p tv to enjoy the system...Most of us here have enough common sense to know that there will only be a handful of 1080p games. 1080p is more for the Blu-Ray movies. Its there for people who can use it, its not a need and won't hold back the console.

      Sony's former strengths of exclusives are gone, THQ is bringing the smackdown vs raw series to 360, Square Enix is releasing Final Fantasy 13 and 14 on the 360. The team who makes devil may cry and onimusha combined teams to create lost planet exclusive to 360.
      You just pulled that out your *** (concerning FF)... Square is NOT bringing any NUMBERED/OFFLINE Final Fantasy games to the 360.

      Capcom is 3rd party they work for who they want, so I have no clue why you highlighted this. Its not like the games you mentioned are going to 360.. Also unless Lost Planet is published by MS theres a chance it will land on PS3. I'll have to look in on who is publishing it. If its not MS that leaves the window open...

      Something is wrong with that and PS3. Even the guy who makes God of War decided to keep the series on the PS2 not PS3......Definitely some development issues with PS3 and thats a big weakness and a major Advantage Microsoft will have over Sony.
      are you dense? that decision had nothing to do with PS3... The stuido who made God of War has to recover from their losses on the first game. So instead of making a new engine for next gen they are releasing God of War 2 on PS2 as a quick money maker.

      another lesson in common sense

      100mill PS2 users
      2mill PS3 users

      where would you put your hit title?

      Not to mention by Nov. 25th when the PS3 is releasing the US it is only getting around 340,000 to 400,000 systems....by that date..Microsoft will have over 6 to 7 millions units sold in the US and over 100 titles in stores....what makes you think they will drop the price...
      Nov 25th? another made up lie.. Sony said EARLY Nov so it will probably launch Nov 14th or so.

      340,000-400,000? where are you getting that from? Sony said 1-2mill around launch world-wide. I expect the European launch to be delayed and for that numbered to be divided between the US and Japan.

      The latest forecast for 360s by years end is 5-6 mill...Not 6-7 mill by Nov.

      They have the upper hand in this Next-gen battle...and winning team should never lower their standards / prices if they don't have to.. $399.99 is a good price for all the 360 does....
      If you say so
      Last edited by ps2king; 05-04-2006, 03:46 PM.

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      • Spongedaddy
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        • Feb 2006
        • 2030

        #18
        Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3



        This data has certainly made me rethink my concepts of who games are being marketed too. More then half the gamers are 18+ a majority of whom have to make buying decisions for themselves. There is a lot of room for error with this group, especially since the number of adult "casual gamers" has grown. I still believe Sony should release a price and date now. MS is not going to drop the price and 6-7 months official build up seems better to me then 3-4.

        We will all know the answer to this on Monday. The one thing that makes me think most of you are correct (that the price wont be revealed) is I thought there would have been some kind of leak by now...even if it was that the price would be revealed Monday. To date I have not seen any decent site reporting such a leak.
        DON'T PANIC

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        • ExtremeGamer
          Extra Life 11/3/18
          • Jul 2002
          • 35299

          #19
          Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

          Originally posted by ps2king
          are you dense? that decision had nothing to do with PS3... The stuido who made God of War has to recover from their losses on the first game. So instead of making a new engine for next gen they are releasing God of War 2 on PS2 as a quick money maker.

          another lesson in common sense

          100mill PS2 users
          2mill PS3 users

          where would you put your hit title?
          It makes sense to me to put it on the PS2 as well, but at the same time, I would make it a PS3 exclusive, that would sell systems alone. And I know, the PS3 itself really doesn't need a monster game IMO to sell at launch, but GOW was one of the best 4 games of last year (RE4, Guitar Hero, COD2, and GOW), and would possibly make people who were going to wait, buy a PS3 now instead of saying, "the only game I want is GOW2 and I can just keep my PS2 and wait for a PS3". I see both sides of it though.

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          • ps2king
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            • Jul 2002
            • 1508

            #20
            Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

            Originally posted by Behindshadows2
            Toy R Us...has already started pre-orders but its a bundle with a game a generic controller and stuff like that...

            I don't think other stores will be pre-ordering because of the US shortages..I mean 400,000 spread out over the US...thats not enough to even cover 10 states...
            you have a link for that 400K figure?

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            • ps2king
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              • Jul 2002
              • 1508

              #21
              Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

              Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
              It makes sense to me to put it on the PS2 as well, but at the same time, I would make it a PS3 exclusive, that would sell systems alone. And I know, the PS3 itself really doesn't need a monster game IMO to sell at launch, but GOW was one of the best 4 games of last year (RE4, Guitar Hero, COD2, and GOW), and would possibly make people who were going to wait, buy a PS3 now instead of saying, "the only game I want is GOW2 and I can just keep my PS2 and wait for a PS3". I see both sides of it though.
              Cost had alot to do with the decision...

              A new engine would have cost millions, thats one of the main reasons GoW2 is a PS2 game to recoup the cost of the first GoW engine

              I sure wouldn't want God of War 2 on the PS3 using an engine that was built on/for the PS2.. The game would be the equivalent of a port.

              Besides if you watch the interviews with David Jaffe there are many more God of War games in the pipeline. God of War 2 (if they made a new engine) probably wouldn't have seen the light of day until 2008/2009.

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              • Flawless
                Bang-bang! Down-down!
                • Mar 2004
                • 16780

                #22
                Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                behindshadows2 says such crazy things.

                Anyways, as far as price, I agree with most that it will most likely be TGS.
                Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                • countryboy
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                  • Sep 2003
                  • 52887

                  #23
                  Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                  Originally posted by aukevin
                  Will preorders begin once the price is announced? That's what I care about.

                  Pre-orders will take place once a date is announced. They would have to give a more concrete date than "fall" which they are stating now. If at E3 Sony announced that the PS3 will launch in November, then I would expect pre-orders to take place.
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                  • countryboy
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52887

                    #24
                    Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                    The reason God of War 2 is on the PS2 and not the PS3 is because like PS2king stated, there will be far more PS2 owners next Feb. than PS3 owners, and for those lucky enough to have a PS3, God of War 2 will be backwards compatible just like the entire PS2 and PS1 library.

                    Behindshadows, make sure you have a "supporting cast" before making outrageous assumptions.
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                    • ExtremeGamer
                      Extra Life 11/3/18
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 35299

                      #25
                      Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                      Originally posted by ps2king
                      Cost had alot to do with the decision...

                      A new engine would have cost millions, thats one of the main reasons GoW2 is a PS2 game to recoup the cost of the first GoW engine

                      I sure wouldn't want God of War 2 on the PS3 using an engine that was built on/for the PS2.. The game would be the equivalent of a port.

                      Besides if you watch the interviews with David Jaffe there are many more God of War games in the pipeline. God of War 2 (if they made a new engine) probably wouldn't have seen the light of day until 2008/2009.
                      Yeah, that makes sense. And if they get it out around PS3 launch date, then essentially it's a PS3 launch title anyway, since the PS3 will upconvert like the 360 does. As beautiful as GOW was anyway, I can only imagine what it'll look like next gen.

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                      • Behindshadows
                        CEO - BSG Network
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8055

                        #26
                        Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                        Originally posted by ps2king
                        you have a link for that 400K figure?
                        I appreciate the personal attacks you've taken towards me, since your name is PS2 king...obviously you take offense to anything said bad about sony.....

                        my proof to is nothing to be linked.... I work for a major video game company. And I get my news straight from the source, not the internet.

                        but I'm glad you get easily upset over nothing and defending a company that doesn't pay your bills. my comments were completely by info given to our company, and strictly unbias. but if you want to give personal attacks and try to correct someone, correct yourself for not knowing what I know.

                        I own every system sony has made including the PSP, but I'm not going to defend them this time. The PS3 will be a great system as I stated earlier, but its not going to be the monster everyone is expecting. And to correct you sony came out with the PS2 12 to 13 months before the XBOX. So it was full stream ahead a year earlier, backed by a great history with the PS1. Which is still a great system. Too bad Nintendo turned them down at making it a super nes attachment. So you can keep your bias comments and the Sony can do no wrong statements to yourself.

                        And never correct me about how to spell something. If I'm typing fast, I do overlook things, this isn't high school or elementary or whatever your in. I have 2 college degrees. Try getting one before correcting me. I'm a grown man and I stand by my words.

                        If I try to lay my opinion and share some news with people on OS thats what I'm going to do. Don't need your bias attitude trying to jump at me, because the news about Sony isn't what you want to hear or read.

                        The 340,000 to 400,000 units in the US are the figures we were handed. Because sony is only releasing 1 million units nationwide on Nov.25th the date we were given. They said the Day after Thanksgiving...and that is supposely the date. So they have to split 1 million units between US, EUR, and Japan...And I'm sure the US and Japan will get the most of the amount.
                        Last edited by Behindshadows; 05-04-2006, 05:55 PM.

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                        • ps2king
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1508

                          #27
                          Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                          I work in the industry as well

                          Yeah okay bud I deal with your type everyday so I won't waste anymore of my time.

                          Anyway my name is just that a name... If you click under that name you will see that I own a 360 so your whole fanboy angle is void.

                          keep writing stories...

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                          • Spongedaddy
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #28
                            Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                            Anyhoot...I understand the GOW PS2 logic, but man it would have been a helluva launch title...but it makes sense since not everyone will have a PS3 due to shortages at launch.

                            Behindshadows: I would say no one really knows if the PS3 will be a monster or not. I do know that Sony has a history of overpromising and underdelivering. However it might be a monster. There are a lot of rumors about the problems with developing for the machine as well as Blue-Ray issues.

                            I have to repeat that the lack of leaked stories this close to E3 seems strange. Either Sony is holding many surprises close to the vest or E3 wont have many surprises from Sony.
                            DON'T PANIC

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                            • Behindshadows
                              CEO - BSG Network
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 8055

                              #29
                              Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                              Originally posted by Spongedaddy
                              Anyhoot...I understand the GOW PS2 logic, but man it would have been a helluva launch title...but it makes sense since not everyone will have a PS3 due to shortages at launch.

                              Behindshadows: I would say no one really knows if the PS3 will be a monster or not. I do know that Sony has a history of overpromising and underdelivering. However it might be a monster. There are a lot of rumors about the problems with developing for the machine as well as Blue-Ray issues.

                              I have to repeat that the lack of leaked stories this close to E3 seems strange. Either Sony is holding many surprises close to the vest or E3 wont have many surprises from Sony.
                              That being said....so true...and yes sony has made many promises never kept....I know one thing if they jack up Metal Gear and Devil May Cry 4, then I'm done.....I know they won't deliver those graphics from that fake azz video from last years EA, but it better look damn close....Not to mention will killzone look that good really....Even the UT 2007, doesn't come close....

                              Not sure if the price will matter to me, if its worth the price, based off game selection and options as a system...I'll be picking it up, as I am a collector of games...and don't want to miss out on new titles, trying to be bias on one system....After seeing Red Steel..I might even pick up the Wii...if they don't ruin it with a kiddie title lineup...

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                              • Ice Cream Truck
                                Money Makin' Sonny
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 2200

                                #30
                                Re: Will Sony release the price and date for the PS3 at E3

                                Originally posted by countryboy
                                Pre-orders will take place once a date is announced. They would have to give a more concrete date than "fall" which they are stating now. If at E3 Sony announced that the PS3 will launch in November, then I would expect pre-orders to take place.
                                Sony already announced that it'd be released in November.

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