Sony to make it illegal to sell second hand PS3 games

[Jon22]

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[UPDATE] While US Sony reps think the best way to deal with gossip is silence, Sony Europe spokespersons have apparently decided to put this particular rumor to rest. According to the London Guardian's
tech blog, SCEE PR manger Jennie Kong blasted the rumor as " false speculation." "PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console," she told the Guardian. [Thanks Lefein and stoner02]


Bogus or not bogus?: Now bogus, apparently.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/...pic_id=23921409<!-- / message -->

I didn't read the links given at the begin of the thread. But, I don't think this is what we are talking about. I think people are talking about resaling the game back to the story. But, I didn't read the link so I don't know

[dkgojackets]

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Good.

[goh]

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I don't think it's the same either. If they were copy protected they wouldn't even be able to be rented. To make it illegal to sell them doesn't mean they're copy protected.

There's no ****ing way I'd get one if this were to be true. While I've only gotten rid of 1 360 game I've got rid of many Xbox and PS2 games. Think what that would do to sports games. You'll still be stuck with NBA 2K7 when NBA 2K13 comes out.

[luv_mist]

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I think there's something deeper in there if reselling PS3 games is illegal. Maybe Sony is trying to tap into the reselling market. If that's the case, then I think it's ingenious.

Hear me out. Now think about it. If they could negotiate a profit from each resell of each game with each company (EBgames, Gamestop ect.), then they would have a bigger piece of the pie. I'd definitely be waiting to see what it looks like. If they can corner it just right, then it might be more beneficial for the companies. I don't know how ebay would personally be affected but I'd definitely like to see if Sony could pull off something like this. Definitely waiting until 2008 to purchase anything with a SONY tag on it.......

[Boltman]

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glad to know i am not getting a PS3...

Exactly bro!



LOL, Sony is loosing it.

[CaptainZombie]

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I don't think Sony makes jack from used games, or new games for the matter.

Sony doesn't make any money with used games.

They make some money from new games since the publisher/developer has to pay Sony/MS/Nintendo a small licensing fee.

[Misfit]

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I don't think it's the same either. If they were copy protected they wouldn't even be able to be rented. To make it illegal to sell them doesn't mean they're copy protected.

There's no ****ing way I'd get one if this were to be true. While I've only gotten rid of 1 360 game I've got rid of many Xbox and PS2 games. Think what that would do to sports games. You'll still be stuck with NBA 2K7 when NBA 2K13 comes out.

Sony doesn't have the power or authority to make it illegal for you to sell something that paid for. Unless everyone has to sign a contract when they buy a game that says they can't re-sell it the used video game market will be fine. The only other alternative would be for Sony to refuse to supply Gamestop/EB with new games in protest of them selling used ones, but that would hurt Sony a lot more than it would hurt Gamestop.

[Rodster]

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Sony doesn't have the power or authority to make it illegal for you to sell something that paid for. Unless everyone has to sign a contract when they buy a game that says they can't re-sell it the used video game market will be fine. The only other alternative would be for Sony to refuse to supply Gamestop/EB with new games in protest of them selling used ones, but that would hurt Sony a lot more than it would hurt Gamestop.

Actually you are correct that it would be near impossible to police resold software. So i'm sure if it weren't copy protected you could turn around and sell it to a friend or on ebay.

Sony will still sell Gamestop new games and only new copies.

Here's the problem though. If this turns out to be true and I have my doubts. Let's say it is true, then Sony could sue Gamestop or any other retailer for violation of it's license, by selling used PS3 games. Try and sell a used game at EB /Gamestop and they'll tell you it's against the law. If Sony prohibits used games sold on the PS3 then find another means to selling your used games.

[bigeastbumrush]

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[UPDATE] While US Sony reps think the best way to deal with gossip is silence, Sony Europe spokespersons have apparently decided to put this particular rumor to rest. According to the London Guardian's
tech blog, SCEE PR manger Jennie Kong blasted the rumor as " false speculation." "PlayStation 3 software will not be copy protected to a single machine but will be playable on any PlayStation 3 console," she told the Guardian. [Thanks Lefein and stoner02]


Bogus or not bogus?: Now bogus, apparently.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/news/...pic_id=23921409<!-- / message -->

now all the naysayers can wait until.......probably tomorrow...to once again hate on everything Sony.

It's hilarious how speculative threads like these were immediately locked as 'based on rumor' and non-credible sources when XBOX 360 was coming out.

Here's a rumour for you to chew on...i heard the PS3 will be expensive. oh the horror.

[Bacardi151]

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now all the naysayers can wait until.......probably tomorrow...to once again hate on everything Sony.

It's hilarious how speculative threads like these were immediately locked as 'based on rumor' and non-credible sources when XBOX 360 was coming out.

Here's a rumour for you to chew on...i heard the PS3 will be expensive. oh the horror.

i beleive there are 2 stories here people are confusing. I know i was a bit confused at first as well. Others have pointed it out

story 1 - Sony games will use copy protection on ps3 games
story 2 - Sony will be changing their licensing agreement to stop second hand selling.

Now the two stories might be related, and Sony has not yet denied anything regarding the licensing agreement story.

Either way, we'll find out the closer we get to the ps3's release.

And regarding the highlighted text above, hyperbole ftw. Find me one thread on these forums or anywhere on OS that a topic was locked because of the rumor ( and being bias towards the 360) and not because it turned into a flamefest or total meltdown of misinformation with no links provided to another source. Because I was a moderator of this board until January of this year, and i don't ever remember locking a thread with information that you just claimed. And I'll gladly apologize and move along if this indeed was the case.

[Stormyhog]

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i beleive there are 2 stories here people are confusing. I know i was a bit confused at first as well. Others have pointed it out

story 1 - Sony games will use copy protection on ps3 games
story 2 - Sony will be changing their licensing agreement to stop second hand selling.

Now the two stories might be related, and Sony has not yet denied anything regarding the licensing agreement story.

Either way, we'll find out the closer we get to the ps3's release.

That was what I got out of Sony's reply regarding the situation as they have responded about playing games on all PS3 systems but they never denied the reselling games story. I am not a fanboy of any system as I own a PS2 but if this does turn out to be true I'll be getting a 360 for sure. Sony better watch their step and better come clean on these issues and anything else they are not telling us and not after they have sold millions of units either.

[HMcCoy]

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For those that think this is impossible, or just e-BS... the technology exists to lock out used games, Kutaragi himself designed the technology, and it's been patented by Sony for some time. Here are details from the actual patent: LINK

A device and method for protection of legitimate software against used software and counterfeit software in recording media… A specific title code is read, and if this title code has been registered, the main unit shifts to a normal operation. If the code has not been registered, verification software is initiated… If matching does not occur, the disk is processed as illegitimate software… Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end-user becomes practically impossible."

This is actually pretty old and was brought to OS back in November:

"Possible tech in the PS3"

and again breifly in january:

"PS3 = No pre-owns or rentals? "

You don't go through the time and expense of developing technology if you haven't at least strongly considered using it. Funny that this is the same Sony that "blasted" the report on the Japanese launch delay a week before announcing.....*Gasp* the Japanese launch delay. Then "blasted" their own European suit who leaked that the PS3 would be expensive as hell...then announced *Gasp* the unit will be 500/600 bucks.

Yeah...just keep believin' what these clowns say.

This was laughed off a few months ago, but it looks like it may be true. If this is true Sony is done.

[goh]

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Well Sony's comment is no comment.

"Our UK companion site recently posted an article outlining a claim that certain UK retailers have been informed that they will be unable to sell used PlayStation 3 games.

Sony does indeed have the patented ability to create PS3 games that must be registered the first time they're inserted into your PS3, and could then only play on that specific PS3. This would obviously both severely hinder game piracy and also torpedo used game sales.

However, this rumor is apparently just that: a rumor. Despite contacting several industry insiders, neither GamesRadar US or its other companion site, www.next-gen.biz, could seem to verify the UK retailer's story. NextGen's take on the scene can be found here, complete with quotes from various of industry insiders sounding bewildered and incredulous.

Sony's US office could neither allay nor confirm our fears. Kimberly Otzman, senior manager of corporate communications, offered, "We can't comment on rumors or speculation. We plan on announcing the [launch] lineup as we get closer to the launch in November. We haven't made any announcement on used game sales."" (http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/gam...14115917309058)

[koolbubbaice]

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Wasn't this a rumor Sony squashed last year?

There's no way I will believe that (unless Sony confirms it to be true). That'll be a suicide move for Sony. Where did they even get this info from?

I find that hard to believe especially from those sites listed as sources.

ppl said the samething about the EA NFL deal too..So when you plop down 60.00 you don't own the game you paid for just the Lic?? If true, I might ditch PS3 altogether..

[koolbubbaice]

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now all the naysayers can wait until.......probably tomorrow...to once again hate on everything Sony.

It's hilarious how speculative threads like these were immediately locked as 'based on rumor' and non-credible sources when XBOX 360 was coming out.

Here's a rumour for you to chew on...i heard the PS3 will be expensive. oh the horror.

When had Sony every told the truth?