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  • Stormyhog
    All Star
    • Feb 2004
    • 5304

    #16
    Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

    Originally posted by Kev5890
    Well Sony and MS would agree with what i stated..

    They have both said that whoever wins the Japanese market will win the console war.
    That's why Microsoft will never win the console war because Japan will always support their own products it doesn't matter what Microsoft tries to do over there. I will be getting a PS3 but I really like the 360 as well and always hope they do well because you never want an outright Monopoly as that usually spells trouble for the consumer. As for the Wii I look at that system as nothing more than a kids system and not true Next Gen. To me the Wii controller is nothing more than a gimmick to say look were different but that necessarily doesn't mean you're better. It may a have a better price but what it offers is really geared towards the casual gamer and the kiddies.
    "If you don't have anything good to say, say it often"- Ed the sock

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    • USF11
      C*rr*ntly *n L*f* T*lt
      • Jun 2003
      • 4245

      #17
      Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

      Originally posted by Kev5890
      Sony screws there biggest market ( Japan) because whoever wins Japan wins the console market..everyone should know this

      How is PS3 screwing Japan?
      -Price
      -System

      Guys the PS3 is bigger than the xbox 360, which is a huge " no thanks" for japanese gamers..They want something sleek and small..hense why they want the Wii so much in that poll.
      America is the largest gaming market by far. Japan is more of a representation of the rest of the world.
      "Good music transcends all physical limits, it's more then something you hear, it's something that you feel, when the author, experience, and passion is real" - Murs (And this is for)

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      • Behindshadows
        CEO - BSG Network
        • Nov 2004
        • 8055

        #18
        Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

        Personally I could care less, who wins over Japan. I'm in the US and as long as M$, Sony. and Nintendo gives me great games here. Thats all that matters.

        People talking about who ever wins Japan, wins the console war...WTF ever.

        That makes no sense, right now its who ever makes and presents the better titles. Regardless of system power.

        Japan has proven to become bias over and over again. M$ is bringing out some great titles, even in Japan. But they still choose Nintendo over them, because the XBOX is an American system.

        We buy Japanese stuff over here all the time and we don't piss on their products or knock them for their stuff and choose other stuff....Its wrong.

        The person who is going to win this Video game war is the consumer. If you buy a XBOX 360 and your happy with it ...You win!!!!

        If you buy a PS3 and your happy with it..You win!!!

        If you buy a Nintendo Wii and your happy with it..You win!!!

        Its about your happiness with your consoles, not the rest of the worlds opinion....who cares what they think....

        Use your own conscious mind and like what you like....XB360 is a great system. PS3 will be a great system. Nintendo well...we'll have to wait and see..no doubt they will have some good titles. But with the kiddie target...it will possibly be great for kids and ok for adults.

        PS3 isn't #1 in Japan...yah!! It isn't #1 in America either.....Sony's direction in Pricing as well as the loss of some major licenses is definitely not looking good...

        But with titles like Assassin's Creed and MGS coming out. Its a beginning...I still think Blu-Ray will be its downfall. But they will still have some nice titles come out....

        Its all about consumer choices.

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        • Erv
          MVP
          • Jul 2002
          • 2105

          #19
          Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

          Originally posted by joeboo
          http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/710/710133p1.html

          I thought this was interesting and somewhat surprising to me. Here are some numbers from a few articles, including the one above:

          Before the 360 was released, Japanese gamers felt this way:


          Want to buy:
          PS3 - 63.2%
          Wii - 36%
          360 - 23.9%

          After E3, the numbers look like this:

          Greatest Interest:
          Wii - 68.3%
          PS3 - 21%
          360 - 7.2%
          DS - 3.0%

          Is the PS3 launch price too high?
          Yes - 88.4%
          No - 10.9%
          Too low - 0.7%

          I'm not surprised how little interest the 360 is getting in Japan. Japanese gamers seem to not have any interest in the American product and MS was pretty naive to think they could sell over there IMO.

          However, I am surprised at the numbers the Wii is putting up. Those are some pretty overwhelming numbers in support of the Wii over the PS3 after it showed at E3.
          Actually it's not suprising whatsoever if you know anything about what the DS is doing in that country. The Wii is made with the same concepts of the DS so it's obvious to see what the Japanese sees in it.

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          • Erv
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 2105

            #20
            Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

            Originally posted by Behindshadows2
            Personally I could care less, who wins over Japan. I'm in the US and as long as M$, Sony. and Nintendo gives me great games here. Thats all that matters.

            People talking about who ever wins Japan, wins the console war...WTF ever.

            That makes no sense, right now its who ever makes and presents the better titles. Regardless of system power.

            Japan has proven to become bias over and over again. M$ is bringing out some great titles, even in Japan. But they still choose Nintendo over them, because the XBOX is an American system.

            We buy Japanese stuff over here all the time and we don't piss on their products or knock them for their stuff and choose other stuff....Its wrong.

            The person who is going to win this Video game war is the consumer. If you buy a XBOX 360 and your happy with it ...You win!!!!

            If you buy a PS3 and your happy with it..You win!!!

            If you buy a Nintendo Wii and your happy with it..You win!!!

            Its about your happiness with your consoles, not the rest of the worlds opinion....who cares what they think....

            Use your own conscious mind and like what you like....XB360 is a great system. PS3 will be a great system. Nintendo well...we'll have to wait and see..no doubt they will have some good titles. But with the kiddie target...it will possibly be great for kids and ok for adults.

            PS3 isn't #1 in Japan...yah!! It isn't #1 in America either.....Sony's direction in Pricing as well as the loss of some major licenses is definitely not looking good...

            But with titles like Assassin's Creed and MGS coming out. Its a beginning...I still think Blu-Ray will be its downfall. But they will still have some nice titles come out....

            Its all about consumer choices.
            The handheld who won Japan is winning the handheld market lol

            Also saying Japan prefers Japanese things, last time I checked it's human nature to prefer the(sometime) superior product. You can't tell me American cars or many other products hold a candle to the Japanese equivalent...they have more pride in what they do us these days. Plus the Ipod and McDonalds are the biggest examples that contradict your statement.

            Now lets shift gears to MS. 99 Nights was a pretty hard flop quality wise, especially compared to Lumines and Meteos. Dead or Alive 4 is just a placeholder for the almost guranteed superior VF5. What else is there? All those shooters, racers and sports are useless in Japan. Oblivion is out, but it's not what the japanese prefer. Just like we don't prefer soccer here.

            What had happenedi s MS treated Japan as an afterthought when they released the original xbox and haven't recovered since...probably had the same thinking as you.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #21
              Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

              Originally posted by Behindshadows2
              Personally I could care less, who wins over Japan. I'm in the US and as long as M$, Sony. and Nintendo gives me great games here. Thats all that matters.

              People talking about who ever wins Japan, wins the console war...WTF ever.

              That makes no sense, right now its who ever makes and presents the better titles. Regardless of system power.

              Japan has proven to become bias over and over again. M$ is bringing out some great titles, even in Japan. But they still choose Nintendo over them, because the XBOX is an American system.

              We buy Japanese stuff over here all the time and we don't piss on their products or knock them for their stuff and choose other stuff....Its wrong.

              The person who is going to win this Video game war is the consumer. If you buy a XBOX 360 and your happy with it ...You win!!!!

              If you buy a PS3 and your happy with it..You win!!!

              If you buy a Nintendo Wii and your happy with it..You win!!!

              Its about your happiness with your consoles, not the rest of the worlds opinion....who cares what they think....

              Use your own conscious mind and like what you like....XB360 is a great system. PS3 will be a great system. Nintendo well...we'll have to wait and see..no doubt they will have some good titles. But with the kiddie target...it will possibly be great for kids and ok for adults.

              PS3 isn't #1 in Japan...yah!! It isn't #1 in America either.....Sony's direction in Pricing as well as the loss of some major licenses is definitely not looking good...

              But with titles like Assassin's Creed and MGS coming out. Its a beginning...I still think Blu-Ray will be its downfall. But they will still have some nice titles come out....

              Its all about consumer choices.
              ahhh the voice of reason.

              294 people is no where near an accurate representation of the Japanese gaming market.

              I love all the talk about who's won the console war when systems haven't even been released yet.

              Let time be the determining factor. This is getting disgusting to be quite honest.

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              • Kevin26385
                EA Game Changer
                • May 2004
                • 5147

                #22
                Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                Originally posted by USF11
                America is the largest gaming market by far. Japan is more of a representation of the rest of the world.
                I didn't say that it was..

                But sony and MS have repeaditly said that whoever wins Japan wins the console market.

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                • mjb2124
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 13649

                  #23
                  Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                  Originally posted by Erv
                  Actually it's not suprising whatsoever if you know anything about what the DS is doing in that country. The Wii is made with the same concepts of the DS so it's obvious to see what the Japanese sees in it.
                  I really haven't paid attention to any of the handhelds as I have 0 interest in them.

                  So I assume the DS is killing the PSP over there?

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                  • Rodster
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 5709

                    #24
                    Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                    Originally posted by joeboo
                    I really haven't paid attention to any of the handhelds as I have 0 interest in them.

                    So I assume the DS is killing the PSP over there?
                    Oh yeah, big time.

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                    • Rodster
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5709

                      #25
                      Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                      Originally posted by Erv
                      The handheld who won Japan is winning the handheld market lol

                      Also saying Japan prefers Japanese things, last time I checked it's human nature to prefer the(sometime) superior product. You can't tell me American cars or many other products hold a candle to the Japanese equivalent...they have more pride in what they do us these days. Plus the Ipod and McDonalds are the biggest examples that contradict your statement.

                      Now lets shift gears to MS. 99 Nights was a pretty hard flop quality wise, especially compared to Lumines and Meteos. Dead or Alive 4 is just a placeholder for the almost guranteed superior VF5. What else is there? All those shooters, racers and sports are useless in Japan. Oblivion is out, but it's not what the japanese prefer. Just like we don't prefer soccer here.

                      What had happenedi s MS treated Japan as an afterthought when they released the original xbox and haven't recovered since...probably had the same thinking as you.
                      Also what's really hot in Japan and China right now are Harley Davidson bikes go figure.

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                      • Patman
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 374

                        #26
                        Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                        Originally posted by burnwood
                        But it is possible for 294 people to have representatives from different demographics, so it isn't all moot.
                        294 is about 5.6% margin of error for a poll of an infinite population... all possible sampling biases aside.
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                        • luv_mist
                          Older
                          • May 2004
                          • 9596

                          #27
                          Re: PS3 not #1 in Japan?

                          I'm a reality type of thinker which is what leads me to wonder what the heck M$ was thinking in the first place trying to land some ground over there when they have so much demand over here. We basically all saw the tragedy that was the launch. I think they put too much into the Japanese market when the Japanese market wasn't considered within the first place. What games did they have over there that were asian specific??

                          I personally think the Wii is a great thought just like the DS. I believe the DS didn't take off too well because a lot of people thought it was a dumb idea. Now, the DS is still the hottest thing next to the iPod it would seem. I mean, the interactivity is a type of thing that many people don't consider. It's different but that thing is innovative. Everything that is great was an idea from something else.

                          And the PS3 will still sell well. Not as well as it use to. The majority of their sales will come after the price drops just like the PS2 did. It's quite a challenge to imagine what will be the outcome of the system wars. Heck, we don't even have any type of gameplay footage of a PS3 game right now. Think about the PS2 when it first came out. Weren't there people that paid the $299 even though it seemed like an outrageous price at first. Won't count any console out personally. All are interesting. So upset that the PS3 has some good exclusives so I guess I'll eventually have to pick up a couple myself.

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