Next Gen Consoles – Way too soon or Signs of Failure?

[EZ Snappin]

Re: Next Gen Consoles – Way too soon or Signs of Failure?

I just don't see anything innovative in their games.
If someone here could describe a game that's coming out for the Wii that is totally different than what's already been rehashed 1000 times then I'll listen.
But a lot of the games I see on their list are the same ones we've seen since the NES.

I heard that someone is making a scuba diving game, where you and a "dive buddy" go swimming around the reefs. And Elebits seems different than anything I've seen.

Next year they have THE system seller, an innovative game if ever there was one - Bob Ross: The Joy Of Painting.

If you're not interested that's cool. I'm glad this generation has choices.

[Pete1210]

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For me the xbox 360 came too soon. I would have been happy with xbox for another year or two and waited for the 360 price to drop. But within a few months of the launch, most of the guys on my friends list were on the 360. I succumbed to peer pressure and now have no regrets.

The $400 was a big pill to swallow for a game console, but if you look at the hardware that's packed in there, 3 CPU's, a cutting edge GPU that wasn't even on the market yet, then it didn't seem too bad.

HDTV is like a required component. I loved GR:Summit Strike, but once I played GR:AW on the 360 I sold my Summit Strike. Its not just the graphics (which blew me away). Other stuff, like the live video feed from your squadmates was not possible on the xbox version.

You also have to remember, we are just coming up on one year for the 360. Launch games for consoles are always weak. Better games are coming.

The 360 live interface is next gen, much improved over xbox.

[Pared]

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With higher dev. costs, we will continue to see rehashes and franchise "ports" more and more until costs go down. It was the same way with PS2 and Xbox.

These companies just can't afford to take risks anymore. And you know what... it's their own fault. The game industry is looking more and more like the movie industry... with sequels, prequels, spinoffs and ripoffs being the norm as opposed to originality.

It doesn't help when people go out and buy into all of it though. How many of you complain about things such as ports, then look at your own game collection and see it littered with these same games you chastise?

[Money99]

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And that's different from the 360 and PS3 how? Don't both of those systems only come with one controller?

Take care,
PK

You're obviously missing the point. Sure, you need to buy an extra controller for another person to play, NOT TWO like the WII demands.

You're still paying the same. The 360 wireless controller is $50. A Wimote is 19.99 and the nunchuck is 29.99. Keep trying though.

I just bought a WIRED controller for $35.00 CDN. Disadvantage - Wii.

The only thing that's offensive is your lack of knowledge about the system specs before you rip it. And no, I'm not buying a Wii, either.

As I said, an informed opinion is easier to digest and respect. Otherwise, it's just hot air, and no one told me a balloon festival was scheduled for today in this thread.

What more do I need to know about the system? It has less power and it has a cool wand that I"m supposed to wave around to play games with. I'm pretty sure I got it.

I heard that someone is making a scuba diving game, where you and a "dive buddy" go swimming around the reefs. And Elebits seems different than anything I've seen.

Next year they have THE system seller, an innovative game if ever there was one - Bob Ross: The Joy Of Painting.

If you're not interested that's cool. I'm glad this generation has choices.

Those seem pretty cool. I'm glad there's choices too. But those games don't really interest me. I'm glad for those that are interested though.

Again, a lot of people are saying how innovative this system is. But I've yet to see this mindblowing change in gaming.

[ExtremeGamer]

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I just bought a WIRED controller for $35.00 CDN. Disadvantage - Wii.

Wired vs wireless...advantage Wii.

[rudyjuly2]

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The $400 was a big pill to swallow for a game console, but if you look at the hardware that's packed in there, 3 CPU's, a cutting edge GPU that wasn't even on the market yet, then it didn't seem too bad.

Most people on OS are informed, hardcore gamers that understand why the system costs so much. However, the "why" doesn't really matter in terms of selling the hardware to the general public. The bottom line is that the 360 and PS3 are very expensive gaming consoles and the typical family out there will probably balk at paying these prices for quite a while.

[Pared]

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You're obviously missing the point. Sure, you need to buy an extra controller for another person to play, NOT TWO like the WII demands.

Ok... maybe you should try and put this in a different light.

The Wii seems like it demands two controllers together being packaged separately. That's what he's getting at. If you want to play a game that requires BOTH controllers, then them being packaged individually is a "smoke screen" so to speak, wouldn't you say?

[Money99]

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Wired vs wireless...advantage Wii.

How? I'll be sitting 5 feet from my TV regardless. In the end, I'm still saving money with my 360 when I want to play with friends.

[Money99]

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Ok... maybe you should try and put this in a different light.

The Wii seems like it demands two controllers together being packaged separately. That's what he's getting at. If you want to play a game that requires BOTH controllers, then them being packaged individually is a "smoke screen" so to speak, wouldn't you say?

Yes.

In the end it's all preference. I have colleagues that are drooling over Gears of War and Call of Duty 3. To them, those games are worth the price tag of the 360 and they feel these games are 'revolutionary'.
Some here might think using a wand to play games is the next level and superior to what Sony or Microsoft dish out. Great.

If the 360 doesn't offer you anything you like then don't buy it. For me it did. It offered NHL07 that features some very innovative things in a hockey game. So I bought a 360.
Some people here might like using the Wand to shoot arrows and fight with swords in Zelda. Cool. Then buy a Wii.

I think we're at the bottom of the well when it comes to game creativness.
Sure, the Wii has that painter game coming out. But if I'm going to spend $300+ for a game console where I mimic painting I might as well buy a canvas and do it for real.

To each his own.

[EZ Snappin]

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Ok... maybe you should try and put this in a different light.

The Wii seems like it demands two controllers together being packaged separately. That's what he's getting at. If you want to play a game that requires BOTH controllers, then them being packaged individually is a "smoke screen" so to speak, wouldn't you say?

But many games won't require the nunchuk - Excite Truck, Wario Ware, and all of Wii Sports except boxing, for example. By keeping the nunchuk separate, you aren't forced to buy it unless you need it for a specific game. I'll probably have 4 remotes and only a couple of nunchuks, at least to start.

It's saving me $40 for technology I don't need. Works for me!

[Money99]

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But many games won't require the nunchuk - Excite Truck, Wario Ware, and all of Wii Sports except boxing, for example. By keeping the nunchuk separate, you aren't forced to buy it unless you need it for a specific game. I'll probably have 4 remotes and only a couple of nunchuks, at least to start.

It's saving me $40 for technology I don't need. Works for me!

I'm interested to see what this boxing game is like.
Is it 'fake' boxing (like Mario boxing) or more sim?

[backbreaker]

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Man, I was just praising you guys in another thread about hold next gen down, and now some of you want to bail damn!!!! Anyways for those interested in knowing Sega is incorporating motion controls in VT3 for the PS3. You will control the player and swing types. This is an optional features as fas as controls go and you can play the whole game with one hand.

Virtua Tennis gets tilty on PS3
Friday 3-Nov-2006 10:15 AM Sega serves up details on new functionality added to the PS3 version of the tennis game

We've been sent some nice visual diagrams and a bit of blurb this morning on Virtua Tennis 3's freshly announced employment of the PS3 controller's tilt action.

You can use the tilt action to move your player (tilt the controller forward to move a sports star forward, left to move them left etc.) and also to perform a variety shots and serves - in a similar way to a tennis racquet, and without using the buttons or analogue sticks, explains Sega.

Here's further example stuff:

* Swing the controller up quickly - Player makes a lob shot
* Swing the controller down quickly - Player performs a slice shot
* Swing the controller horizontally - Top spin!

And here's a couple of diagrams for you to peruse:

[rudyjuly2]

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Anyways for those interested in knowing Sega is incorporating motion controls in VT3 for the PS3. You will control the player and swing types. This is an optional features as fas as controls go and you can play the whole game with one hand.

Virtua Tennis gets tilty on PS3
Friday 3-Nov-2006 10:15 AM Sega serves up details on new functionality added to the PS3 version of the tennis game

We've been sent some nice visual diagrams and a bit of blurb this morning on Virtua Tennis 3's freshly announced employment of the PS3 controller's tilt action.

You can use the tilt action to move your player (tilt the controller forward to move a sports star forward, left to move them left etc.) and also to perform a variety shots and serves - in a similar way to a tennis racquet, and without using the buttons or analogue sticks, explains Sega.

Here's further example stuff:

* Swing the controller up quickly - Player makes a lob shot
* Swing the controller down quickly - Player performs a slice shot
* Swing the controller horizontally - Top spin!

And here's a couple of diagrams for you to peruse:

Man, I hope they don't incorportate this in all the games. I don't want to move my controller around. At least with MS, they can't make you since the system doesn't support it.

[Money99]

Re: Next Gen Consoles – Way too soon or Signs of Failure?

Man, I was just praising you guys in another thread about hold next gen down, and now some of you want to bail damn!!!! Anyways for those interested in knowing Sega is incorporating motion controls in VT3 for the PS3. You will control the player and swing types. This is an optional features as fas as controls go and you can play the whole game with one hand.

Virtua Tennis gets tilty on PS3
Friday 3-Nov-2006 10:15 AM Sega serves up details on new functionality added to the PS3 version of the tennis game

We've been sent some nice visual diagrams and a bit of blurb this morning on Virtua Tennis 3's freshly announced employment of the PS3 controller's tilt action.

You can use the tilt action to move your player (tilt the controller forward to move a sports star forward, left to move them left etc.) and also to perform a variety shots and serves - in a similar way to a tennis racquet, and without using the buttons or analogue sticks, explains Sega.

Here's further example stuff:

* Swing the controller up quickly - Player makes a lob shot
* Swing the controller down quickly - Player performs a slice shot
* Swing the controller horizontally - Top spin!

And here's a couple of diagrams for you to peruse:

I feel bad for the guy that's an 'active' or spastic gamer. You know the guys that move with the game? They'll be doing unwanted moves because of their spastic nature.
I could see a few of those controllers getting thrown threw a window because of it.

[EZ Snappin]

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I'm interested to see what this boxing game is like.
Is it 'fake' boxing (like Mario boxing) or more sim?

I haven't played, but it looks very Punchout! inspired. You hold the remote in one hand, the nunchuk in the other. You can punch with either hand, aim high for head shots, do uppercuts, etc. You can dodge by moving both controllers either right or left together (which happens naturally if you just lean). I believe you can block by raising/lowering them as well.

From what I've read the controls take some getting used to, as you have to learn how best to motion for the desired move.

I'll tell you in a few weeks.