Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

[CaptainZombie]

Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals
The head of Silicon Knights says it's a wash between the next-gen consoles.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/744/744008p1.html

Silicon Knights, makers of Eternal Darkness, are readying the forever-in-development Too Human for the Xbox 360, as well as an unannounced title for the PlayStation 3. Speaking to the San Jose Mercury News, the company's President, Denis Dyack, says the next-generation systems are virtually identical in terms of power.

"The 360 and the PS3 are equal in power in my eyes," Dyack says. "Maybe the PS3 has more processing power. The 360 has more available memory. It's pretty much a net, net. The public perception of the PS3 was that it was much more powerful. To developers, they look even."

Silicon Knights had a working relationship with Nintendo for several years, making Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes for the GameCube. That partnership ended in 2004, though, and Dyack says he has no current plans to develop for the Wii. Too Human is planned as a trilogy for the Xbox 360

[ChuckS]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Yup...basically it's what most devs have been saying all along.

[jpup]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Yup...basically it's what most devs have been saying all along.

as always, it will be about the games. which one has the better games? that will answer the system wars. it could be Nintendo this time, we just don't know.

[backbreaker]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Not saying he's wrong, but this guy doesn't even have a PS3 dev kit. He makes Too Human, enough said with that travesty.

[GamingJones]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Not saying he's wrong, but this guy doesn't even have a PS3 dev kit. He makes Too Human, enough said with that travesty.

I could be wrong, but I thought the article said they were developing a game for each system.

[Heelfan71]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

I was told the same thing from someone from 2k. But the 360 is much easier to program for.

[backbreaker]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Let me try to answer this without revealing too much. At this point and time, Gragphics are at a diminishing return because of graphic processors. The speed inwhich they move produces so much heat your system will collapse, hence diminishing return.

How do you level the playing field at this point and time, you create an all in one chip that can handle the surplus, hence the cell. If you remember the cell was also going to be used as a graphics chip, but that has been changed. Now the Cell assist in graphics(ray traycing and volumetrics ect.) the PS3 within the unit house a next gen gpu, that is capable of handling any and everything is put before it, but what put it over the top is the cell. I know I may sound like a book, but I've seen some amazing things.

Just look at the other thread I posted about the PS3/SixAxiS steering a vehicle that is an enormous amount of processing power of math and physics. I will stop their because, most of you are graphics whores as well as I am.

In closing, I want you to think about what the gentlemen said, which is the defining moment, the PS3 has more processing power, thats your clue.

Processing power is the end all be all. Nvidia and ATI can make all the chips they want but they need and again they need reference points.

The PS3 has at this point the worlds most advance processor aimed at the home market. MS knows it and so do. will you allow ourself too understand it?

[Kashanova]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

360 has more cores, plus more memory i would say that makes up for the lack of "processing power"

[jmood88]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Not saying he's wrong, but this guy doesn't even have a PS3 dev kit. He makes Too Human, enough said with that travesty.

How is an unreleased game a travesty?

[backbreaker]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

360 has more cores, plus more memory i would say that makes up for the lack of "processing power"

I know you mean well, but your info is wrong. The Processor in the PS3 is the most advanced processor available too the public. Both the 360 and the PS3 is based of the Power PC processor. X360 is a derivative that uses 3 cores, but the PS3, use a PPU and 7 SPU's you do the math. I tired of educating .

[mercalnd]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Processing power is the end all be all.

Nope. The guy is right when he says more memory can compensate for lower processing power. Even with a super fast processor, you still have to load data in memory to process it, which tends to limit the processing speed while things are being loaded for processing. Having a larger memory means you can load more at a time and not have to load data in memory as often, reducing processor idle time.

A system with a faster processor and less memory has the advantage when huge amounts of calculations have to be done with limited data. But with very large amounts of data, memory becomes very important as well.

[jmood88]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

I know you mean well, but your info is wrong. The Processor in the PS3 is the most advanced processor available too the public. Both the 360 and the PS3 is based of the Power PC processor. X360 is a derivative that uses 3 cores, but the PS3, use a PPU and 7 SPU's you do the math. I tired of educating .

Why do you feel the need to be the sony defender?

[ubernoob]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Am I the only one here that does not care at ALL about the numbers, and processors, and such? Good god, I can tell you all about computer specs and what I want in my computer system... but that's a computer, NOT a console. I get a console to play GOOD games (hence why I still have a SNES, DreamCast, PS2, and my 360 hooked up).

What a systems success boils down to is games and marketing, not numbers.

[tripwire]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

Let me try to answer this without revealing too much. At this point and time, Gragphics are at a diminishing return because of graphic processors. The speed inwhich they move produces so much heat your system will collapse, hence diminishing return.

How do you level the playing field at this point and time, you create an all in one chip that can handle the surplus, hence the cell. If you remember the cell was also going to be used as a graphics chip, but that has been changed. Now the Cell assist in graphics(ray traycing and volumetrics ect.) the PS3 within the unit house a next gen gpu, that is capable of handling any and everything is put before it, but what put it over the top is the cell. I know I may sound like a book, but I've seen some amazing things.

Just look at the other thread I posted about the PS3/SixAxiS steering a vehicle that is an enormous amount of processing power of math and physics. I will stop their because, most of you are graphics whores as well as I am.

In closing, I want you to think about what the gentlemen said, which is the defining moment, the PS3 has more processing power, thats your clue.

Processing power is the end all be all. Nvidia and ATI can make all the chips they want but they need and again they need reference points.

The PS3 has at this point the worlds most advance processor aimed at the home market. MS knows it and so do. will you allow ourself too understand it?

And everyone would also know that no matter how much processor power there is in any PC/console, there will be a bottleneck if your GPU has access to a limited amount of memory.

[jgo777]

Re: Denis Dyack: 360, PS3 Are Equals

I tired of educating .

Oh the irony...