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  • Nivek
    H*ll *f F*m*
    • Jul 2002
    • 7999

    #16
    Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

    Originally posted by MassNole
    Well we can pretty much blame EA for the demise of the Dreamcast. Yet another evil they forced upon the gaming world.
    Great point, EA on the DC would have crushed the compeition.
    Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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    • CaptainZombie
      Brains
      • Jul 2003
      • 37851

      #17
      Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

      Originally posted by rudyjuly2
      Those points are all true and my brother had a dreamcast. It was fun but the sheer power of the system didn't quite measure up to the PS2 iirc. I truly think that if EA supported the system, it would have been a good success. Not having Madden for the general consumer (as well as other EA games) really hurt.

      Further memory testing has me thinking MS screwed with Sega as well since I had read they were working with them on the Dreamcast to push it out together only to have MS withdraw and decide to do it themselves with the XBox. The fact the Dreamcast let you play over dial-up connections without much lag was very impressive as well.
      Just like what Sony did to Nintendo when they withdrew their CD based drive from the SNES.

      I loved the DC so much that I had both an Asian and US consoles to play domestic/import games. Once the US version was cracked for import playing, I played my import games on there and sold the Asian version.

      Yes, not having EA on board for 2 generations in a row hurt SEGA. EA Saturn support was terrible and it all started from there.
      HDMovie Room

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      • pk500
        All Star
        • Jul 2002
        • 8062

        #18
        Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

        Originally posted by rudyjuly2
        Those points are all true and my brother had a dreamcast. It was fun but the sheer power of the system didn't quite measure up to the PS2 iirc.
        In what way? Both were/are 128-bit systems, and the DC had the hardware advantages I listed previously.

        Take care,
        PK
        Xbox Live: pk4425

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        • pk500
          All Star
          • Jul 2002
          • 8062

          #19
          Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

          Originally posted by candyman56
          I agree with you PK, the DC was a system to reckon with. Since we have spoken about the DC and how much you have liked it, I highly recommend you pickup a Wii. I'll talk you into it eventually. That innovation that the DC brought to the table back in '99 is being replicated with the Wii here in '06. The only thing right now that I really hate with Nintendo is their network for downloading VC games, there are some issues when trying to connect.
          I'm having a really good time with my DS Lite, Candy, so the Wii isn't in my immediate plans. If I was to buy a console again, it would be the 360 because of the great Xbox Live online experience and because the 360 is filled with realistic military shooters and racing sims, my two favorite console genres.

          The "quirky" games on the DS Lite are really fun, though. Games like Brain Age, Trauma Center, etc. I would rather have a 360 to satisfy my "traditional" gaming jones and keep the DS Lite for portable, quirky gaming with a unique interface.

          Take care,
          PK
          Xbox Live: pk4425

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          • canman
            Rookie
            • May 2003
            • 237

            #20
            Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

            DC was/is worth having just for Test Drive Le Mans. I think it still holds up today.

            It ain't hard to tell, I excel, then prevail...
            {Hardcore fan of the Raps, Jays, Leafs, Eagles & Man Utd}

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            • rudyjuly2
              Cade Cunningham
              • Aug 2002
              • 14816

              #21
              Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

              Originally posted by pk500
              In what way? Both were/are 128-bit systems, and the DC had the hardware advantages I listed previously.

              Take care,
              PK
              It just wasn't as powerful in terms of sheer numbers and polygon producing counts (http://www.streettech.com/archives_gadget/DCvsPS2.html). Of course the Dreamcast was much easier to program for and than can make up some differences. The fact the Dreamcast was released a year earlier probably also hurt its specs. I'm not positive but I do remember thinking Madden '01 on the PS2 looked better than 2K1 on the Dreamcast. The lighting was better but its been awhile.

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              • pk500
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 8062

                #22
                Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                Originally posted by canman
                DC was/is worth having just for Test Drive Le Mans. I think it still holds up today.

                http://dreamcast.ign.com/articles/164/164869p1.html
                No doubt. The DC had a KILLER racing lineup:

                Test Drive Le Mans
                Test Drive V-Rally
                Sega Rally 2
                F1 World Grand Prix
                Vanishing Point
                Daytona USA
                Metropolis Street Racer
                Tokyo Xtreme Racing
                Tokyo Xtreme Racing 2
                Looney Tunes Space Race
                F355 Challenge
                Demolition Racer: No Exit

                Take care,
                PK
                Xbox Live: pk4425

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                • pk500
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8062

                  #23
                  Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                  Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                  It just wasn't as powerful in terms of sheer numbers and polygon producing counts (http://www.streettech.com/archives_gadget/DCvsPS2.html). Of course the Dreamcast was much easier to program for and than can make up some differences. The fact the Dreamcast was released a year earlier probably also hurt its specs. I'm not positive but I do remember thinking Madden '01 on the PS2 looked better than 2K1 on the Dreamcast. The lighting was better but its been awhile.
                  All valid points. But I'll take the superior anti-aliasing of the DC over the PS2 instead of its slightly inferior graphics. The jaggie-fest on the PS2 drove me nuts.

                  Take care,
                  PK
                  Xbox Live: pk4425

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                  • dubplate
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 3784

                    #24
                    Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                    Originally posted by rudyjuly2
                    Of course the Dreamcast was much easier to program for and than can make up some differences.
                    Hmm. Sounds like a certain console war this generation.

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                    • Nivek
                      H*ll *f F*m*
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7999

                      #25
                      Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                      Originally posted by pk500
                      In what way? Both were/are 128-bit systems, and the DC had the hardware advantages I listed previously.

                      Take care,
                      PK
                      I thought bits didn't mean anything since PSX era? The PS2 had a hardware advantage over the DC, but it's not about specs. DC just had some ****ing fun games man, just an amazing library of games not to mention the greatest launch of any system ever.
                      Cameras or guns, one of them is gonna shoot me to death.

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                      • pk500
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 8062

                        #26
                        Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                        Originally posted by Nivek
                        I thought bits didn't mean anything since PSX era? The PS2 had a hardware advantage over the DC, but it's not about specs. DC just had some ****ing fun games man, just an amazing library of games not to mention the greatest launch of any system ever.
                        Again, what was the hardware advantage? You cats are saying the PS2 had a hardware advantage, but you're giving no specifics. I outlined specific reasons why I think the DC hardware is superior.

                        I'm curious to see your specifics.

                        Take care,
                        PK
                        Xbox Live: pk4425

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                        • rudyjuly2
                          Cade Cunningham
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 14816

                          #27
                          Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                          Originally posted by pk500
                          Again, what was the hardware advantage? You cats are saying the PS2 had a hardware advantage, but you're giving no specifics. I outlined specific reasons why I think the DC hardware is superior.

                          I'm curious to see your specifics.

                          Take care,
                          PK
                          Just read the link I poster earlier PK. The PS2 could push 16 million polygons per second compared to 3 million on the DS. Graphics should be and were better that way. The DS had some advantages but the PS2 was superior in some areas without question. I know when I played Madden '01, the lighting and in particular how it reflected off helmuts etc. was better than what they could do for 2K1. I just felt Madden '01 was the better game graphics wise AND gameplay wise at the time. I traded in 2K1 because of it.

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                          • pk500
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8062

                            #28
                            Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                            Fair enough, Rudy. That polygon gap is large.

                            Take care,
                            PK
                            Xbox Live: pk4425

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                            • rudyjuly2
                              Cade Cunningham
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 14816

                              #29
                              Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                              I will say that the Dreamcast was the nicest looking current gen machine out there and may still be the nicest looking machine out there. It almost seems as if the Wii and 360 copied the Dreamcast's clean look. The 4 controller ports and VMU were two great additions to the Dreamcast.

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                              • TheMatrix31
                                RF
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 52931

                                #30
                                Re: New Dreamcast Game Announced

                                A few months ago I popped in NBA2k and played my Dreamcast for a little. Man, that game was fun.

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