My POS 360 Died............Again

[mjb2124]

Re: My POS 360 Died............Again

I bet the PS3 has a significantly less failure rate than the 360. No, there's no proof, but there's one HUGE piece of evidence.

PS3 = 1 yr warranty
360 = 90 day warranty

90 day warranty on a $400 piece of electronics equipment? This is basically telling the consumer "we have no confidence in this product lasting".

Companies like Sony and Microsoft know exactly what they are doing when they pick the length of their standard warranties.

Just look at the number of threads this past year of people saying their 360 has died. These kind of threads are still constantly showing up.

That said the PS3 could be just as bad or it could be worse, but I doubt it given the length of the warranty. Sony feels their product will last, their testing obviously supports this and is thus reflected in their warranty.

Now, I need some sleep so I have the energy to pack up my 360 that I've had for less than 1 month and return it because it now refuses to play games.

I don't really agree with that theory, but to each their own. FYI - MS also extended the warranty for launch 360's to 1 year if I'm not mistaken.

I also think some of the 360 problems are over-exaggerated. I'm not saying MassNole or some of the posters on here are making things up (because I'm sure those guys aren't), but when OS posted a poll asking how many 360's died, we had a lot of people that we knew didn't have a 360 vote that theirs died. There's just too much "fanboy" stuff going on with the PS3 and 360 to trust everything on the internet.

Until the PS3 saturates the market further, the topic is a moot point though. Right now we're comparing apples to oranges.

[CaptainZombie]

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I don't really agree with that theory, but to each their own. FYI - MS also extended the warranty for launch 360's to 1 year if I'm not mistaken.

I also think some of the 360 problems are over-exaggerated. I'm not saying MassNole or some of the posters on here are making things up (because I'm sure those guys aren't), but when OS posted a poll asking how many 360's died, we had a lot of people that we knew didn't have a 360 vote that theirs died. There's just too much "fanboy" stuff going on with the PS3 and 360 to trust everything on the internet.

Until the PS3 saturates the market further, the topic is a moot point though. Right now we're comparing apples to oranges.

That is a shame if peeps were making up that their 360's were dead when they didn't own one. I've had a system since launch, and now finally my system is starting to sound a bit louder than normal. I'm not even sure it's the DVD drive or one of the fans in the back sounding like the 747. I just hope that this thing last into next year without any issues.

[mark1726]

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I just recently started getting this three rings of death thing. I did some reading and one of the problems I have is my power supply.

According to MSoft, the power supply LED should be orange when the 360 is off, green when you power it up. Mine stays orange the whole time which supposedly indicates a problem with the power brick. A problem with the brick will lead to the three rings of death.

It reccomends having the brick on a hard surface, like a desk, and plugged into it's own outlet, not a power strip. Mine of course is on the carpet and plugged into a power cord. I am going to try doing what they say and see if I get the green LED when the 360 is on. If I can't get that then I may buy a new brick before chucking the whole 360.

[The_Beastmaster]

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Why would plugging it into a wall rather than a surge protector be better for the 360 game system?

[ExtremeGamer]

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Why would plugging it into a wall rather than a surge protector be better for the 360 game system?

Sony told me the same thing with my PS3. In fact, they said they won't cover a dead system plugged into a surger protector. Of course, I lied saying it was in the wall. Do they realize that with all the electronic crap we all have, there's no way to have just a TV and a PS3 or 360 hooked into the wall behind the TV?

[Rodster]

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Why would plugging it into a wall rather than a surge protector be better for the 360 game system?

Because some people foolishly overload their surge protectors and UPS systems. When that happens the opposite of what it was intended to do takes place. You introduce surge/sags and spikes into the power supply. That takes it toll on sensitive power supplies aka "cheap" and destroys them.

When I was a computer tech I use to install large UPS Systems in Computer data centers. We had to monitor the power coming into and out of the UPS system before we plugged in the Mainframe computers.

So yes power is a big issue and what Sony is trying to accomplish is they want the end user to only connect two devices to one electrical outlet. They have a point IMO.

[sportdan30]

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It only sucks for those of you whose 360's have gone bottoms up. Yes, it sucks for you, and I'm sorry you've had to incur such frusturation. However, for those of us who've had better luck and haven't had any problems, next gen rocks. I might feel the same as topic creater if my 360 malfunctioned a couple times, but as it stands it hasn't.

[Scottdau]

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Because some people foolishly overload their surge protectors and UPS systems. When that happens the opposite of what it was intended to do takes place. You introduce surge/sags and spikes into the power supply. That takes it toll on sensitive power supplies aka "cheap" and destroys them.

When I was a computer tech I use to install large UPS Systems in Computer data centers. We had to monitor the power coming into and out of the UPS system before we plugged in the Mainframe computers.

So yes power is a big issue and what Sony is trying to accomplish is they want the end user to only connect two devices to one electrical outlet. They have a point IMO.

So is it OK to have two, one for the 360 and one for the HDTV?

[Rodster]

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So is it OK to have two, one for the 360 and one for the HDTV?

Sorry man I don't get the question?

[Scottdau]

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Sorry man I don't get the question?

My fault, I have to things plug in my surge protector. My TV and 360 is that OK

[billysims]

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Sorry man, but I've had 2 consoles brick on me, and I always take very good care of pretty much everything I own. Both of my 360's have never been moved, or dropped. Always been in open space, and they still got the red lights of death. And no, I don't play my Xbox 360 8 hours a day, more like 8-10 hours a week. Theres just a large number of faulty consoles out there.

I'm in the same boat as you. 2nd console just stop playing the game I want to play (mailny EA sports games). First one I returned in October after buying it in June, now less than 60 days later, this one is going back....

And i only play maybe 8-10 hours/week, and it's off when I'm not on it....

[Rodster]

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My fault, I have to things plug in my surge protector. My TV and 360 is that OK

Yeah you should be fine. Just make sure it's a good quality surge protector with a good Joule rating. APC, Monster and there are others that make good surge protectors. CC, BB carriy these types of surge protectors.

The main problem with overloaded surge protectors is not the amount of devices plugged into the surge protectors but the number of devices that are running at the same time. That's what causes more problems than just the devices plugged into the socket.

If you have a Home Theater sound system and equipment running along with your PS3, you would need to make sure a) it can handle the running amperage b) it has a very good joule rating.

[mudman]

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I don't really agree with that theory, but to each their own. FYI - MS also extended the warranty for launch 360's to 1 year if I'm not mistaken.

I also think some of the 360 problems are over-exaggerated. I'm not saying MassNole or some of the posters on here are making things up (because I'm sure those guys aren't), but when OS posted a poll asking how many 360's died, we had a lot of people that we knew didn't have a 360 vote that theirs died. There's just too much "fanboy" stuff going on with the PS3 and 360 to trust everything on the internet.

Until the PS3 saturates the market further, the topic is a moot point though. Right now we're comparing apples to oranges.

You're right, it's worthless to compare right now. But the fact is, Sony is standing behind their product more so than microsoft with a warranty that has over 4 times the length. Like I said, it's just an indicator.

[mjb2124]

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You're right, it's worthless to compare right now. But the fact is, Sony is standing behind their product more so than microsoft with a warranty that has over 4 times the length. Like I said, it's just an indicator.

Valid point. On that same theory, would you say that a car company like Hyundai who offers a 10 yr, 100,000 mile warranty on the drivetrain stands behind their product moreso than say Lexus who offers a 5 yr, 50,000 on the same warranty? In that scenario I'm not sure the warranty theory holds true as Lexus is a much more reliable car than Hyundai.

[TheGamingChef]

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Off topic - what is an acceptable joule rating for a surge protector? I just bought the cheapest one I could find at BB and I have all outlets filled - 4 things in the protector as well as on other thing (besides the protector) in the wall. Not safe?

I'm not sure how many joules it is but it's a CyberPower.