Boiling a disc

[Boltman]

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My cellphone once died so I boiled it. Worked like a champ when I was done. Boiling cures the world's problems.

LMAO, TJ ya' sick F', were talkin' Disc's not consoles nor cell phones!

[Skyboxer]

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My cellphone once died so I boiled it. Worked like a champ when I was done. Boiling cures the world's problems.

So dip your head then......


:P

[DueceDiggla]

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Holy crap it actually worked. Boiled it for 4 mins and let it run in the 360 for a half hour without a problem.

Thanks for the help guys.

[Skyboxer]

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Cool. Glad it worked for you man.

[Cyros]

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My cellphone once died so I boiled it. Worked like a champ when I was done. Boiling cures the world's problems.

I actually ran my cell phone through the washing machine and than dryer and still had it work. Only problem is that speakerphone causes the speakers to heat up rediculously.

[BatsareBugs]

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So how do you boil a disc? You just toss the disc by itself in boiling water?

[MachoMyers]

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This is unreal. Never knew this was possible.

[WTF]

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I'd rather have potatoes myself... but whatever you want man.

[Boltman]

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So how do you boil a disc? You just toss the disc by itself in boiling water?

Yea, just get a pot of water, get it up to a boil, put the disc in, let it sit for about 2 to 4 minutes.

Remove the disc, let it sit for a bit to cool off, wipe it down with a cloth from the center towards the outer edges.

Put it in your system, and give it a go!

[bkfount]

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wow, you really do learn something new everyday. This is completely random, like blowing on a nes game.

[Blzer]

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Okay, everybody that is skeptical about this... I am 4/4 on boiling discs (Backyard Baseball 2001, The Day After Tomorrow, My Cousin Vinny, Cool Boarders 2).



Here's what you do:

Bring fresh water to a boil in a pot. When it boils, turn off the stove, and let your disc slip in, bottom side face-down (I bet you [and other people] didn't know that it's the TOP side that really gets affected from scratches and stuff on the bottom, and not the bottom side). Let it sit in there for maybe 5 - 8 minutes. Don't worry, it's not going to melt. I'm guessing you still can't get the disc out because the water is too hot, so then just go to your sink and turn the cool water on your faucet into the pot... I guess as it's overflowing. When it's cool enough to stick your hand in, take it out. Then using a lint free cloth, wipe the readable side of the disc from the center and work your way outwards (do NOT do circles, for the love of God!). Or, you can just hold onto it and wait for it to dry that way.



Here's what you're doing when putting your disc in boiling water:

Technically, the plastic on the readable surface is so thin, that once it's exposed to the boiling water, it expands. That plastic actually protects the encoded data on the metallic or layers located beneath it. Once the plastic is subjected to this elastromeric state, it releases any particles or debris from the readable side or fixes minor warpage. Once it is removed from the water the plastic quickly contracts back to it's original state without the hinderance of the said debris or warpage causing it to be readable once again.

Oils from a finger transferring to the readable side frequently causes more disc errors than that of a scratch as light can penetrate through surface scratches better than the obstacles or obscurities an oil presents. That is why there are typically those warnings on how to handle CD's or DVD's... and especially why they tell you in owners manuals to never touch the lens (which reads the data from optical discs on DVD players, CD players, videogame systems, etc.).

There are numerous factors that contribute to debris or loose particles getting onto the disc or causing it to warp the plastic. Let's take the old OXM discs for example: One causation would be that since the disc is contained in the plastic bag (could cause condensation within the bag, condensation dries as a film on the disc) the magazine is shipped in, it can get loose ink particles on it through friction of the magazine being handled or being between all the weight of other magazines. This contributes to the possibilities of both loose particles getting onto the disc and warpage. The old discs use to come shipped to subscribers in a cardboard sleeve and that allowed more particles to get onto it... and the disc also moved around more.

The OXM demo discs came in a paper sleeve with a flap which helps prevent those things from occuring as often as it contains the disc from moving and things getting onto it. Though many people hate the change calling it a "cheapen trick to lower costs", it was actually better for the discs themselves. Ultimately, the 'slimpak' cases are the best solution, then the paper sleeve, then the cardboard ones. Some people just demand the vanity of asthetic design over the actual primary function of a sleeve though.

So, yeah... boiling the disc helps if you have a disc error in many cases as I explained why above. If this does not work, you could use a optical lens cleaner that is recommended at your local electronics retailer if it is more widespread than just one disc and not the actual disc being the problem. Other than that, you may need to buy a new game.

[Boltman]

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Okay, everybody that is skeptical about this... I am 4/4 on boiling discs (Backyard Baseball 2001, The Day After Tomorrow, My Cousin Vinny, Cool Boarders 2).



Here's what you do:

Bring fresh water to a boil in a pot. When it boils, turn off the stove, and let your disc slip in, bottom side face-down (I bet you [and other people] didn't know that it's the TOP side that really gets affected from scratches and stuff on the bottom, and not the bottom side). Let it sit in there for maybe 5 - 8 minutes. Don't worry, it's not going to melt. I'm guessing you still can't get the disc out because the water is too hot, so then just go to your sink and turn the cool water on your faucet into the pot... I guess as it's overflowing. When it's cool enough to stick your hand in, take it out. Then using a lint free cloth, wipe the readable side of the disc from the center and work your way outwards (do NOT do circles, for the love of God!). Or, you can just hold onto it and wait for it to dry that way.



Here's what you're doing when putting your disc in boiling water:

Technically, the plastic on the readable surface is so thin, that once it's exposed to the boiling water, it expands. That plastic actually protects the encoded data on the metallic or layers located beneath it. Once the plastic is subjected to this elastromeric state, it releases any particles or debris from the readable side or fixes minor warpage. Once it is removed from the water the plastic quickly contracts back to it's original state without the hinderance of the said debris or warpage causing it to be readable once again.

Oils from a finger transferring to the readable side frequently causes more disc errors than that of a scratch as light can penetrate through surface scratches better than the obstacles or obscurities an oil presents. That is why there are typically those warnings on how to handle CD's or DVD's... and especially why they tell you in owners manuals to never touch the lens (which reads the data from optical discs on DVD players, CD players, videogame systems, etc.).

There are numerous factors that contribute to debris or loose particles getting onto the disc or causing it to warp the plastic. Let's take the old OXM discs for example: One causation would be that since the disc is contained in the plastic bag (could cause condensation within the bag, condensation dries as a film on the disc) the magazine is shipped in, it can get loose ink particles on it through friction of the magazine being handled or being between all the weight of other magazines. This contributes to the possibilities of both loose particles getting onto the disc and warpage. The old discs use to come shipped to subscribers in a cardboard sleeve and that allowed more particles to get onto it... and the disc also moved around more.

The OXM demo discs came in a paper sleeve with a flap which helps prevent those things from occuring as often as it contains the disc from moving and things getting onto it. Though many people hate the change calling it a "cheapen trick to lower costs", it was actually better for the discs themselves. Ultimately, the 'slimpak' cases are the best solution, then the paper sleeve, then the cardboard ones. Some people just demand the vanity of asthetic design over the actual primary function of a sleeve though.

So, yeah... boiling the disc helps if you have a disc error in many cases as I explained why above. If this does not work, you could use a optical lens cleaner that is recommended at your local electronics retailer if it is more widespread than just one disc and not the actual disc being the problem. Other than that, you may need to buy a new game.

Even if it is copy and pasted, it pretty much sums up every thing I posted, even the wiping part is word for word. good advice none the less.

[P2K]

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I always wanted to try this, but didn't. But I have a couple music CDs that are messed up and I might have to give this a go.

So after the water boils, turn off the jet and put the disc in? Or it really doesn't matter if it's still on?

[Gibbz]

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Can you boil more than one disc at a time?

[Boltman]

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I always wanted to try this, but didn't. But I have a couple music CDs that are messed up and I might have to give this a go.

So after the water boils, turn off the jet and put the disc in? Or it really doesn't matter if it's still on?

It doesnt matter, the two times I've done it, I had the pilot still on.

Can you boil more than one disc at a time?

I would not do that if I were you, they get soft a little and you would not want them hitting one another in the pot.