Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

[Slymm]

Just want the pros and cons for both games, because I want to buy one.

[The C]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

Rainbow 6

Pros

• In door combat
• Ability to modify guns
• Many extra gadgets to carry (Smoke grenades, Flash, Frag, and Incideary Greandes, c4, door breaching charges
• Quick game play
• Action is more fast paced
• Cover system on-line
• Design your own character and dress them.
• Face mapping

Cons

• Not many gametypes, which cannot really be edited

1. Sharpshooter
2. Last man Standing
3. Retrieval
4. Objective (Changes from Get 2 hostages to retrieve intel)
5. Terrorist Hunt (1-4 players)
6. Co-op Story (All the single player levels with 1-4 players)

• Limited Number of Guns
• Takes forever to Level up for new gear and costume accessories.

GRAW 2

Pros

• Many wide open maps.
• Almost all maps have 2 different lighting settings. (Like Day and Night or Morning and Evening etc)
• Slower Pace
• Massive amount of guns (over 50+)
• In game Clan System
• 16 players
• Amazing Graphics and Lighting effects
• Tons of game modes which can be modified to your liking usually.

1. Sharpshooter
2. Last Man Standing
3. Siege
4. Mission mode (plant bombs at certain points on the map
5. Capture the Flag
6. A few King of the Hill type games ( different number of hills)
7. Co-op mission (5 missions designed for up to 16 players to complete)
8. Co-op firefight (same thing as terrorist hunt)
9. Co-op Defen (hold point against an onslaught of Computer guys. Think of the movie 300 but with guns)
10. Helo-hunt (shoot down helicopters)
11. Co-op Recon (sneak around scouting out areas on the map while the computer patrols.

Cons

• Very hard to tell where you are getting shot from
• Some maps are too big for small numbers of people
• No cover system in multiplayer
• No ability to modify guns
• Not really an in-depth character creator (can only change face, skin color, sex and what they wear on their heads).
• Again, Incredibly slow paced.
• You might have to play with CJ
• You become very reliant on your team. You can't be a 1 man army in this game.

That's all I can think of right now. I suggest downloading the demos for each game and trying them out.

[sroz39]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

I'll go a different route:

-GRAW2 cover system non-existant in MP (though the over-the-shoulder view does a decent job of giving you a pseudo cover system), R6 has a terrific cover system.

-GRAW2 mostly outdoor maps, R6 mostly indoor maps.

-GRAW2 graphics are spectacular, R6 better than average

-GRAW2 single-player an after-thought, R6 single player alot of fun.

-GRAW2 MP feels alot more accessible than R6 MP. R6 players, this many months after release, are very, VERY good.

-(personal observation, speculatory)the guns in R6 seem to be alot more "finnicky" than the ones in GRAW2. The same guns in R6 have very sporadic accuracy whereas in GRAW2, they are more consistent.

I personally prefer the GRAW series for the MP, because I love the expansiveness of the maps. R6 made me feel very closed in at times. But both are fanastic games.

[Double Eights]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

• You might have to play with CJ

That right there, is reason enough not to buy GRAW 2.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

I like GRAW 2 better.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

Like GRAW2 better but both are buys IMO as they offer 2 different gameplay types.
Some peoples Pros-CONS are certainly different though.

I think with GRAW2 the slow pace is how the game is supposed to be. That's not a CON IMO as neither is the "not seeing who killed you". Again this isn't R6 where it's close combat for the most part and easy to see who "got you"

However for the most part I agree with everyones P's & C's.

[Hoos]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

Rainbow 6

Pros

• In door combat
• Ability to modify guns
• Many extra gadgets to carry (Smoke grenades, Flash, Frag, and Incideary Greandes, c4, door breaching charges
• Quick game play
• Action is more fast paced
• Cover system on-line
• Design your own character and dress them.
• Face mapping

Cons

• Not many gametypes, which cannot really be edited

1. Sharpshooter
2. Last man Standing
3. Retrieval
4. Objective (Changes from Get 2 hostages to retrieve intel)
5. Terrorist Hunt (1-4 players)
6. Co-op Story (All the single player levels with 1-4 players)

• Limited Number of Guns
• Takes forever to Level up for new gear and costume accessories.

GRAW 2

Pros

• Many wide open maps.
• Almost all maps have 2 different lighting settings. (Like Day and Night or Morning and Evening etc)
• Slower Pace
• Massive amount of guns (over 50+)
• In game Clan System
• 16 players
• Amazing Graphics and Lighting effects
• Tons of game modes which can be modified to your liking usually.

1. Sharpshooter
2. Last Man Standing
3. Siege
4. Mission mode (plant bombs at certain points on the map
5. Capture the Flag
6. A few King of the Hill type games ( different number of hills)
7. Co-op mission (5 missions designed for up to 16 players to complete)
8. Co-op firefight (same thing as terrorist hunt)
9. Co-op Defen (hold point against an onslaught of Computer guys. Think of the movie 300 but with guns)
10. Helo-hunt (shoot down helicopters)
11. Co-op Recon (sneak around scouting out areas on the map while the computer patrols.

Cons

• Very hard to tell where you are getting shot from
• Some maps are too big for small numbers of people
• No cover system in multiplayer
• No ability to modify guns
• Not really an in-depth character creator (can only change face, skin color, sex and what they wear on their heads).
• Again, Incredibly slow paced.
• You might have to play with CJ
• You become very reliant on your team. You can't be a 1 man army in this game.

That's all I can think of right now. I suggest downloading the demos for each game and trying them out.

Well said The C and the CJ comment is one of the most accurate statements of all time....BRAVO LOL

I'd give the edge to GRAW 2 but IMO, both games shine in different ways. Must buys on both

[Jistic]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

-GRAW2 single-player an after-thought, R6 single player alot of fun.

Couldn't disagree more. I thought the GRAW2 SP was spectacular. There were some genuine HOLY **** moments in the game, especially with the music, very dramatic. I thought GRAW 2 smoked the first one SP wise. My one beef, it's too short. I played through it twice.

MP it depends what you're looking for. Rainbow is a little more tuned to the Quake/UT type player. It's obviously more realistic in many ways. However the cover system...as awesome as it is, is not realistic. If you're ducking behind cover you should not be able to see around the corner w/out exposing yourself. It actually rewards camping. You also have the advantage of the 'bail out' grenade. You're getting shot full of lead, but you can still heave a frag before you go down and take a few with you. Not so in GRAW2.

GRAW2 is a little more like America's Army. Most shots will kill you, teamwork is a must, and many times when you die, you have no idea where it came from. It rewards sound tactical movement. If you "run n' gun" you die quickly.

I loved both games for different reasons. It depends what kind of experience you're looking for. You really can't go wrong with either IMO.

[Jistic]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

Pros
Slower Pace
Cons
Again, Incredibly slow paced.

So which is it, pro or con?

[The C]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

So which is it, pro or con?

It was hard for me, as a player who likes the slow pace, to say whether it was a pro or con.

Some people like the slow pace, some don't. So I said **** it, I'm putting it in both.

[thelwig14]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

The lack of a true cover system in GRAW is a gamekiller for me.

[Heelfan71]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

I liked them both. You can't go wrong with either one. Basically GRAW is military game. Rainbow is more of a Swat like game. I really don't know which one I liked better. I really liked having shootouts in the casinos and seeing the slot machines get trashed.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

The lack of a true cover system in GRAW is a gamekiller for me.

I still don't get how a "non cover system" is gamekiller. We just recently got games with a cover system so I just don't see how now all of a sudden it's a game killer if there isn't one.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

The lack of a true cover system in GRAW is a gamekiller for me.

I wouldn't consider that a gamekiller at all, GRAW 2 is excellent and what GRAW 1 should have been.

[sroz39]

Re: Rainbow Six vs. GRAW 2

The lack of a true cover system in GRAW is a gamekiller for me.

What does R6's cover system achieve, mainly? The ability to hide and see what's out in front of you. With GRAW's over the shoulder view, this is possible as well, with some practice. It's a matter of manipulating the camera a bit.

The only thing that is lacking in GRAW is the ability to lay down some blind fire. Aside from that, the same things can be achieved in GRAW and R6.