Starcraft II Officially Announced

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I got cannon rushed tonight...it sucked.

mofo just started building crap in my main I was like wtf?

So far the most infuriating strategy I've ran into. Not fun at all.

[mrprice33]

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and the worst part is it seems like the probe can start to build, then flitter away and start something else, while the original thing just materializes in. You then have to choose whether or not to attack the thing or the probe with your scvs (I didn't have marines yet).

[mrprice33]

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Just gonna edit this post as I watch the replay - expect it to get a lot longer.

Right from the outset, looks like a well-balanced game. Economies look very similar - I love this part about the B-net matchmaking. Sometimes you get cannon rushed or 6 pooled, but a lot of the matches I've played I've been on very even terms with my opponent.

- Marines vs. Zealots - hope that wall holds...

- Ooh, close call on his second attack - Good thing you had those Banshees!

- Man, he got you good a few minutes later. But he lost his whole army in the scramble too! So he knows where you're at (the warp prism), but can't do a thing about it because he has no air! (though the stargate is up, he can't afford anything)

- Looking through his eyes, I think he thought that your main base had been completely razed and abandoned - He's sure gonna get a surprise if he ever wanders back there...Nice job taking out that observer, I never see those pesky things.

- 35 minutes - Oh crap - Battlecruisers coming out. Big tech advantage here, because he's still trying to push out Void Rays.

- Yeah, it's clear that he has no idea what's going on at your original base. He's thinking he can hit your island with Phoenixes and Void Rays and get the win. This is going to get VERY ugly for the Protoss.

- What a finish! More or less came down to a base race between his DT's and your Cruisers. For a while I was wondering if that lone supply depot on the island was going to be the only thing keeping you alive, but you got the CC rebuilt too. It seems like he totally forgot about his VR's when the attack hit - those could have finished off the factory and the depot easily when they were all that was left.

Great crisis management, and a very rewarding win I'm sure. Gotta love the Terran's ability to fly their buildings.

I was shocked that he left buildings in my main, especially against terran. As soon as I got to the island, I started trying to figure out how to get back. That's why I put those siege tanks there. Of course, if he came with VRs I would have been screwed, but it worked out ok. I was tapping my desk crazily as that CC was being built. He had dark templars and I needed something to detect them with. I had my one lone scv hiding in the corner of my main and just snuck him out when I had a chance lol. BTW I didn't realize that if a player only has army left (and no workers or food) they automatically lose. I was expecting to have to take my cruisers on a tour of the map and finish off whatever was left. That's why that last cc was so important, otherwise I'd have to wait and wait for the templars.

One of my favorite things to do is fortify my defenses in my base and wait for an attack, then just blitz my opponents base right as he's arriving into mine. Because of the floating buildings of the terran, I can usually just pop my CC out of there and get away while they focus on killing my stuff. Then it's just a matter of who has more stuff left over (like in this game). If I can get the CC up and running again I usually pull off the win.

I'm having fun with the siege+MnM combo though. Especially against protoss, You can just park your tanks right at the ramp and blast away with your army behind it. As soon as the tanks soften up the defenses, just rush in with the army and gg.

[bcruise]

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So far the most infuriating strategy I've ran into. Not fun at all.

Yeah, I hate it too. I managed to temporarily hold it off one time, by killing his first probe/pylon, but he snuck another probe in while I was reorganizing my economy and finished it off. The best ways to beat it are to keep your base scouted and use your SCV's to put out the threat. They can take down a Pylon pretty quick if you get them all surrounding it. And without the pylon, the rush fails.

Here's the replay from that one - It's basically me holding it off once, and then desperately (and hopelessly) trying to hold off the second one after missing the scout.

[mrprice33]

See that kind of crap makes me want to just spam marines from the outset and just rush every protoss i go against.

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[KSUowls]

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It is so funny how many people are bitter after they lose.

This is just one of countless instances I've seen, but last night I did a 2v2 with a friend of mine. We were both zerg vs Terran and Protoss. We ling rushed the terran and killed all of his SCVs and then he left.

The Protoss character had a bunch of zealots and immediately started pumping out marines once his friend left so our small army was killed. A few minutes later we attack again with lings and roaches, but the guy has amassed a small army of his own with the extra unit and resource capabilities. He attacks my base and I'm taken out completely except for overlords so all I can do is scout for the rest of the match.

Well about 10 minutes later my team ends up winning and he starts talking trash how we suck and it was 2v1. Just makes me laugh when I hear things like that. Especially in his case since he had just as much unit production capability, after he took control of his partner's base, as both of us combined...and had the luxury of terran economy as a protoss. I thought for sure we were going to lose, but he screwed himself up. My friend went Mutas and this guy went with a mix of Stalkers and Zealots. Once his stalkers were dead it was just a matter of time before his zealots were picked off.

I just think things like that are funny and thought I'd share.

[Kashanova]

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im on now if anyone wants to play

[USF11]

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im on now if anyone wants to play

Ill hit u up.

[Candyman5]

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Well after a long Hiatus at NYC (Loved it!) im back. What lvl difficulty for the AI is like playing an Human? I am having so much trouble with unit production.

[bcruise]

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Well after a long Hiatus at NYC (Loved it!) im back. What lvl difficulty for the AI is like playing an Human? I am having so much trouble with unit production.

Try the "Opening Gambit" challenge, it's a great way to practice building up your base and army without the added pressure of playing another player. If you're Terran, anyway...

I don't know that any of the levels can compare with playing a human opponent (especially Zerg since the AI's don't quick expand or build an early second hactchery), but Very Hard will vary its starting build and adapt to what you're throwing at it. Insane just plain cheats.

[Valdarez]

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It is so funny how many people are bitter after they lose.

This is just one of countless instances I've seen, but last night I did a 2v2 with a friend of mine. We were both zerg vs Terran and Protoss. We ling rushed the terran and killed all of his SCVs and then he left.

The Protoss character had a bunch of zealots and immediately started pumping out marines once his friend left so our small army was killed. A few minutes later we attack again with lings and roaches, but the guy has amassed a small army of his own with the extra unit and resource capabilities. He attacks my base and I'm taken out completely except for overlords so all I can do is scout for the rest of the match.

Well about 10 minutes later my team ends up winning and he starts talking trash how we suck and it was 2v1. Just makes me laugh when I hear things like that. Especially in his case since he had just as much unit production capability, after he took control of his partner's base, as both of us combined...and had the luxury of terran economy as a protoss. I thought for sure we were going to lose, but he screwed himself up. My friend went Mutas and this guy went with a mix of Stalkers and Zealots. Once his stalkers were dead it was just a matter of time before his zealots were picked off.

I just think things like that are funny and thought I'd share.

Same unit capacity, but only 1/2 the multi-tasking capacity which is HUGE in an RTS game. Sounds like you were lucky to have your friend there to carry you.

[sportsdude]

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good games with kash and his buddy yesterday.

Well after a long Hiatus at NYC (Loved it!) im back. What lvl difficulty for the AI is like playing an Human? I am having so much trouble with unit production.

what race do you play as? I think one thing that's key to is to identify a couple build orders for your race and practice executing them in every game you play whether it's against the AI or an actual person. For example, the first 10 minutes of the game for me are very different if I'm playing against a zerg than if I'm playing against a terran or protoss. I know if I'm playing zergs I gotta open up with a 2-gate and pump zealots out and hold off on stalkers. The opening of the game is so key to your success.

[mrprice33]

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I agree sportsdude. I haven't deviated from terran at all since I first started playing the game and am constantly evolving my tactics depending on the race I play against. against protoss I rush marines and siege tanks, against zerg I go 2 rax with factory and pump marines, marauders and hellions, and against terran I usually tech up and go mech off a 1/1/1.

[sportsdude]

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I agree sportsdude. I haven't deviated from terran at all since I first started playing the game and am constantly evolving my tactics depending on the race I play against. against protoss I rush marines and siege tanks, against zerg I go 2 rax with factory and pump marines, marauders and hellions, and against terran I usually tech up and go mech off a 1/1/1.

I'll be honest, as a protoss player, siege tanks do not concern me at all. I tend to try for colossus as soon as I can but before that I get out some immortals, especially when I'm playing against terran. Immortals are so underrated.

[Candyman5]

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I play Terran. Im like 2-6...lol. Something around them lines. I usually try to do 2 Barracks with Reactor and one with Tech lab. Tech up the marines in the process of trying to swarm with Marines and Maurauders. While Im doing that I try to get a starport up and get medivacs first and then the (I forget what the tranforming air units are called) out second. The only losses I really have are to Terran using Medivacs to transport units in through the air.