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  • the_future420
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 3086

    #346
    Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

    Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
    Hardcore is the only way to go. I like the Ghost Recon games but this is way more strategic. This is a game that snuck up on me because I hadn't heard anything about it until I saw a few of my friends online playing.
    Im still getting used to the game but Ive played a few MP matches on hardcore and the s*** is hard. I never know which direction I'm facing and I end up killing my own teammates.
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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23429

      #347
      Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

      This game is hard hell ! But very fun at the same time LOL.

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      • Cusefan
        Earlwolfx on XBL
        • Oct 2003
        • 9820

        #348
        Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

        Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
        Hardcore is the only way to go. I like the Ghost Recon games but this is way more strategic. This is a game that snuck up on me because I hadn't heard anything about it until I saw a few of my friends online playing.
        Yea, This is like Ghost Recon before it got stupid.

        A design Issues I have:

        AI not taking proper Cover

        Not being able to select personnel load out( Every Marine should have a optic on his weapon)

        In real life, If I want you to move somewhere I will point and say " move over there". At no point will I issue a grid coordinate when talking to my fireteam

        Unrealistic Missions, The US Military likes to have a 3-1 advantage. At no point will a squad of 4 people take on a Company sized Element.

        The Flank is Ineffective with only 4 people. A proper flank should have 8 people, 4 people laying down cover fire, and the 4 other people flanking. The Flank Should start with a mini retreat, then swing around and become parallel with the Enemy. At this point a Line should be formed and the flanking team should assault through the objective.

        AI does not double tap. After a fire fight, the assaulting team clears the objective, putting more bullets into the enemy. Once you have past the objective, it is against the Geneva Convention to shoot the enemy if they are unarmed.
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        • allBthere
          All Star
          • Jan 2008
          • 5847

          #349
          Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

          Originally posted by Cusefan
          Yea, This is like Ghost Recon before it got stupid.

          A design Issues I have:

          AI not taking proper Cover

          Not being able to select personnel load out( Every Marine should have a optic on his weapon)

          In real life, If I want you to move somewhere I will point and say " move over there". At no point will I issue a grid coordinate when talking to my fireteam

          Unrealistic Missions, The US Military likes to have a 3-1 advantage. At no point will a squad of 4 people take on a Company sized Element.

          The Flank is Ineffective with only 4 people. A proper flank should have 8 people, 4 people laying down cover fire, and the 4 other people flanking. The Flank Should start with a mini retreat, then swing around and become parallel with the Enemy. At this point a Line should be formed and the flanking team should assault through the objective.

          AI does not double tap. After a fire fight, the assaulting team clears the objective, putting more bullets into the enemy. Once you have past the objective, it is against the Geneva Convention to shoot the enemy if they are unarmed.
          I agree with what you said besides the stuff I don't know anything about

          but I think this game has achieved that putting games like this out on consoles is a viable goal where you can be successful. I'm sure this will lead to future releases and hopefully will improve.
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          • humaca80
            Pro
            • Feb 2008
            • 649

            #350
            Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

            I heard that they are going to be releasing a patch for quircky multiplayer AI. Can anyone confirm this or have a date?

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            • NEOPARADIGM
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              • Jul 2009
              • 2788

              #351
              Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

              Fantastic review for anyone still interested:

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              • original6
                Pro
                • Mar 2003
                • 675

                #352
                Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                Hardcore is the only way to go. I like the Ghost Recon games but this is way more strategic. This is a game that snuck up on me because I hadn't heard anything about it until I saw a few of my friends online playing.
                I'm a huge GR fan and used to play OF on the pc when it first came out years ago. Might have to check this one out.

                If you like this game, you should check out Bohemia's other title, Arma II. I've been playing it on the pc and it's pretty damn good. I believe it might also be available for the 360.
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                • Pappy Knuckles
                  LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 15966

                  #353
                  Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                  I was playing with a friend last night and finally got past that 3rd mission. I kept getting to the end where you had to defend the little base, but something would always go wrong and I'd get shot. This time I had a good amount of support left, so I just hung out in the cabin right in front of that big field in the south and took pop shots from the window every now and then.

                  I've been doing the campaign with a buddy online but he keeps on dying so early in the mission that I end up running out and getting shot so he can get back in. Last night he did a little better, but he didn't make it to the end. I don't see him getting too many acheivements in this one lol.

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                  • dickey1331
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                    • Sep 2009
                    • 14285

                    #354
                    Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                    got this game yesterday with the best buy deal going on. i enjoy it. played for a little bit last night and cant wait till tonight to play some more.
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                    • allBthere
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5847

                      #355
                      Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                      the one crap thing about this game is the lobby's. too many failed connections and too slow to start games. If it gets too much worse than it is now, eventually I might trade it in. Good game, I hope they make more like this, but 20 min to get into a good-connection game of 4vs4 is too long. I do enjoy sniping people in this a lot though, I just wish I could find more ammo when I run out of bullets instead of running into the open trying to kill people with my handgun
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                      • TheDutchDad
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 2814

                        #356
                        Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                        Originally posted by allBthere
                        the one crap thing about this game is the lobby's. too many failed connections and too slow to start games. If it gets too much worse than it is now, eventually I might trade it in. Good game, I hope they make more like this, but 20 min to get into a good-connection game of 4vs4 is too long. I do enjoy sniping people in this a lot though, I just wish I could find more ammo when I run out of bullets instead of running into the open trying to kill people with my handgun
                        I've never had that issue. All my online MP has been pretty good so far.

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                        • Guffers
                          Glory to the Brave!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1012

                          #357
                          Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                          I finally got this game on Saturday and am enjoying it so far. I'm only up to the third mission but I've already realised how brutal it can be. I love that it rewards tactics and punishes stupidity but the checkpointing is so completely random and unreliable that I'm already getting frustrated.

                          I mean I clear out the AA teams and settle in to defend the village. I manage to defend it for a good 10 minutes and figure that I've almost beaten the mission. Then a lone PLA soldier charges in a shoots me dead close range. Bam! Straight back to a checkpoint before the AA teams have been cleared out! Argghh...I hate repeating crap in games because of rubbish checkpointing. Its my pet hate.

                          If this game had a save anywhere feature it would probably be my favourite shooter of all time. Well it would be up there....

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                          • Skyboxer
                            Donny Baseball!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #358
                            Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                            Originally posted by Guffers
                            If this game had a save anywhere feature it would probably be my favourite shooter of all time. Well it would be up there....
                            If it had a save anywhere feature that would take away the stress etc.. that is part of what makes the game great.
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                            • Guffers
                              Glory to the Brave!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 1012

                              #359
                              Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                              Originally posted by Skyboxer
                              If it had a save anywhere feature that would take away the stress etc.. that is part of what makes the game great.
                              I've always hated that argument. In my opinion its a cheap method of adding tension and actually shows disrespect to gamers who don't have bucketloads of spare time.

                              Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory had quicksave and I found that game to be tense as hell.

                              I just wish we had the option and hardcore dudes like yourself could simply choose not to use it.

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                              • Skyboxer
                                Donny Baseball!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 20302

                                #360
                                Re: E3 - Operation Flashpoint2 - hardcore fps

                                Originally posted by Guffers
                                I've always hated that argument. In my opinion its a cheap method of adding tension and actually shows disrespect to gamers who don't have bucketloads of spare time.

                                Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory had quicksave and I found that game to be tense as hell.

                                I just wish we had the option and hardcore dudes like yourself could simply choose not to use it.
                                It's not an argument but rather an opinion. I prefer the no save method. Glad they make games that satify both.
                                And for what it's worth I have very little time anymore to game but when I do I still prefer the no save method.
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