Fallout: New Vegas

**Cusefan** · 02-04-2010, 06:56 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by DickDalewood

I agree there. Combat, while serviceable, was still one of the sore spots in an otherwise great game.

The problem with the Combat system is the Engine that fallout 3 was based on (oblivion Engine), so it was not very fluid, it did feel kind of clunky. But this is a very minor problem for me, Though the combat had limitations, it did not take away anything for me.

This game is a Day one buy for me, I am looking forward to it.

**bkfount** · 02-05-2010, 02:36 AM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by Cusefan

The problem with the Combat system is the Engine that fallout 3 was based on (oblivion Engine), so it was not very fluid, it did feel kind of clunky. But this is a very minor problem for me, Though the combat had limitations, it did not take away anything for me.

This game is a Day one buy for me, I am looking forward to it.

My main gripe with the engine was how poorly the combat system turned out, as using skill points and stats to determine the probability of even hitting an enemy in a FPS sucks. Spamming VATS got boring quick, but I still enjoyed the game though, a credit to the atmosphere and theme of the game.

**Miles_Yuhas** · 02-05-2010, 02:43 AM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by bkfount

My main gripe with the engine was how poorly the combat system turned out, as using skill points and stats to determine the probability of even hitting an enemy in a FPS sucks. Spamming VATS got boring quick, but I still enjoyed the game though, a credit to the atmosphere and theme of the game.

I agree. Fallout 3 was a massive and very impressive game, but I absolutely hated the combat. I hope it is improved substantially in this game.

**Jistic** · 02-05-2010, 10:24 AM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

I had no problem with the combat. And VATS kicked ***. ME2 is a great game, but to me the combat is actually weak. But it's not a 'shooter' so that's ok.

**Cyros** · 02-05-2010, 10:30 AM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by bkfount

Well the whole city isn't present, as it seems to be some of the downtown and strip, while the whole suburban area is gone. They've had time to rebuild it too, and Hoover Dam is nearby, which has ties to the NCR (New California Republic) that was shown in the trailer.

That unicylce robot looked pretty dumb though. It had a cowboy tv face while digging through the dirt with utterly pointless hands. It looked like gizmoduck or something.

The unicycle robot wishes it could be a Clap Trap.
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**ComfortablyLomb** · 02-05-2010, 10:58 AM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Re: the city. I can buy that in the post-apocalyptic US most areas are completely decimated but with the amount of technology that did survive and the number of scientifically competent people kicking around there have to be a few towns other than the Vault City that managed to rebuild themselves to a degree better than propping up some galvanized iron panels and lighting a few candles.

**Whitesox** · 02-05-2010, 09:36 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

I liked V.A.T.S.

Bloody Mess FTW!

Hopefully one thing fixed is the glitchiness, if you understand what I mean. Fallout 3 was a great game, and I'm still playing it, but there were some pretty bad glitching and technical problems that game had.

A few examples of this being getting stuck between rocks and other objects, follower pathing, freezing, slowdown, etc. I think I got stuck in the supermarket by climbing on top of one of the storage racks, and then I couldn't walk, only look around.

My friend completely lost Fawkes because he got stuck where his 'home' is supposed to be, and was stuck out of reach to the player, so he couldn't get the stuff of his Fawkes was carrying.

And the good 'ol getting stuck at a door after half an hour of unsaved playing is never fun.

But if all of that stuff is fixed, or even most of it, this is a day one for me. In fact, it's probably a day one anyway.

**Jonesy** · 02-05-2010, 09:47 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by Jistic

I had no problem with the combat. And VATS kicked ***. ME2 is a great game, but to me the combat is actually weak. But it's not a 'shooter' so that's ok.

Agreed. I loved the first and the 2nd is in the "must buy" list.

**Buckeyes_Doc** · 02-05-2010, 09:58 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by whitesox

I liked V.A.T.S.

Bloody Mess FTW!

Hopefully one thing fixed is the glitchiness, if you understand what I mean. Fallout 3 was a great game, and I'm still playing it, but there were some pretty bad glitching and technical problems that game had.

A few examples of this being getting stuck between rocks and other objects, follower pathing, freezing, slowdown, etc. I think I got stuck in the supermarket by climbing on top of one of the storage racks, and then I couldn't walk, only look around.

My friend completely lost Fawkes because he got stuck where his 'home' is supposed to be, and was stuck out of reach to the player, so he couldn't get the stuff of his Fawkes was carrying.

And the good 'ol getting stuck at a door after half an hour of unsaved playing is never fun.

But if all of that stuff is fixed, or even most of it, this is a day one for me. In fact, it's probably a day one anyway.

Yeah all that should be fixed. This game does freeze a lot and has a lot of glitchs but it still a great game, just can be a headache sometimes.

I loved the VATS system it was awesome. It took sometime to getting use to but you didn't have to use it.

I can't wait for this game it will be a day one buy for me if I can't find it earlier lol.

**Candyman5** · 02-05-2010, 10:01 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

I hope they have some Ghoul Exotic dancers, all the things my char could do with all them flesh holes...

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**Flawless** · 02-05-2010, 10:11 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

I'm sure combat and some of the mechanics will be refined, but I wouldn't expect huge sweeping changes. Given it's being developed by a number of people who have actually worked on the previous games, I do expect a darker tone, more humor, moral decisions that aren't black and white, and better writing (Obsidian's strength).

**DickDalewood** · 02-05-2010, 10:16 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by lilbently

Yeah all that should be fixed. This game does freeze a lot and has a lot of glitchs but it still a great game, just can be a headache sometimes.

I loved the VATS system it was awesome. It took sometime to getting use to but you didn't have to use it.

I can't wait for this game it will be a day one buy for me if I can't find it earlier lol.

VATS was great, yes. But shooting without it was terrible... very sluggish, very slow. The game was just too reliant on it. Borderlands has shown us that it's possible to give us great RPG elements AND a great FPS experience. The game could do that and STILL keep VATS.

**Buckeyes_Doc** · 02-05-2010, 10:39 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by DickDalewood

VATS was great, yes. But shooting without it was terrible... very sluggish, very slow. The game was just too reliant on it. Borderlands has shown us that it's possible to give us great RPG elements AND a great FPS experience. The game could do that and STILL keep VATS.

Yeah thats true. Even with VATS shooting was sluggish sometimes. Fallout 3 in general wasn't a smooth game, a lot of hiccups. Still was great but if New Vegas runs smooth without all the hiccups and is as deep as Fallout 3 then this game will be amazing.

**DickDalewood** · 02-05-2010, 10:57 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by lilbently

Yeah thats true. Even with VATS shooting was sluggish sometimes. Fallout 3 in general wasn't a smooth game, a lot of hiccups. Still was great but if New Vegas runs smooth without all the hiccups and is as deep as Fallout 3 then this game will be amazing.

Absolutely. I hope we start getting more info soon.

**Miles_Yuhas** · 02-05-2010, 11:10 PM

Re: Fallout: New Vegas

Originally posted by DickDalewood

VATS was great, yes. But shooting without it was terrible... very sluggish, very slow. The game was just too reliant on it. Borderlands has shown us that it's possible to give us great RPG elements AND a great FPS experience. The game could do that and STILL keep VATS.

Originally posted by lilbently

Yeah thats true. Even with VATS shooting was sluggish sometimes. Fallout 3 in general wasn't a smooth game, a lot of hiccups. Still was great but if New Vegas runs smooth without all the hiccups and is as deep as Fallout 3 then this game will be amazing.

You both stole the words right out of my mouth.

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