Rock Band 3

[VDusen04]

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I was so behind on the Rock Band thing that I'm not close to being burnt out just yet. In fact, I thought playing on Hard guitar would be so impossible that I never gave it a try. Now that I figured THAT part out a month ago, it's opened up a whole new world.

Keyboard sounds tight.

[Hooe]

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I'm intrigued.

[Jano]

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I was so behind on the Rock Band thing that I'm not close to being burnt out just yet. In fact, I thought playing on Hard guitar would be so impossible that I never gave it a try. Now that I figured THAT part out a month ago, it's opened up a whole new world.

Keyboard sounds tight.

I was the same way just made it expert on drums a few months ago and I can play some guitar on expert too. So this game is still pretty fresh to me.

[fpac]

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I was so behind on the Rock Band thing that I'm not close to being burnt out just yet. In fact, I thought playing on Hard guitar would be so impossible that I never gave it a try. Now that I figured THAT part out a month ago, it's opened up a whole new world.

Keyboard sounds tight.

Same here. Rock Band 2 was the first music game I ever played and while I don't play as much as I did at first, I'm not close to being burnt out yet either.

I can't wait for RB3. The keyboard sounds very interesting.

[Ninian]

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so how is this one? Thinking of buying it

[55]

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so how is this one? Thinking of buying it

You're going to have to wait for about six more months.

[goh]

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This might have the most epic final song yet.
There's only ONE song I can think of that would be 6 on everything including keyboard:

Spoiler

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[goh]

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While we were all busy with Green Day this happend...



83 songs

Break on Through by The Doors (hell yes!)
Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen (already in GH by the time this comes out )
Crosstown Traffic by Jimi Hendrix (good enough,would perfer Voodoo Child)

On the fly difficulty switching in the middle of a song without resetting the song.
Stole GH's drop in drop out of course.
All current instruments and DLC will be compatiable.

Can see the keyboard in the video too: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...and10_ST_N.htm

Oh more songs were sneakily hidden here http://content.usatoday.com/communit...nced-so-far-/1

2000s
Combat Baby -- Metric: Metric sucks.
Dead End Friends -- Them Crooked Vultures: Never heard it.
Get Free -- The Vines: Like it but already GH DLC.
Lasso -- Phoenix: Already GH DLC and don't like it.
Me Enamora -- Juanes: Never heard it or even of the person/band.
Oh My God -- Ida Maria: See last comment.
Portions of Foxes -- Rilo Kiley: Awful I think but not sure I'm thinking of the right person.
The Hardest Button to Button -- The White Stripes: Good,was disapointed it wasn't in previous packs.

1990s
Been Caught Stealing -- Jane's Addiction: Already in GH by the time this comes out.
In the Meantime -- Spacehog: Already in GH.
Plush -- Stone Temple Pilots: Already in GH.
Walkin' on the Sun -- Smash Mouth: I was hoping for this after All-Star was DLC.

1980s
Crazy Train -- Ozzy Osbourne: Already in GH but it didn't export so I'll call that one a draw. Explains absence from the pack.
Here I Go Again -- Whitesnake: Hell yes.
I Love Rock and Roll -- Joan Jett: Already in GH...twice...then exported for 2 MORE times. She has more songs ya know. In fact THIS isn't even HER song,it's actually a cover.
Just Like Heaven -- The Cure: Hell yes.
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio: Hell yes.
The Power of Love -- Huey Lewis and the News: It's not Hip to be Square so fail.
Sister Christian -- Night Ranger: Already in GH.

1960s-1970s
Bohemian Rhapsody -- Queen
Break On Through -- The Doors
Crosstown Traffic -- Jimi Hendrix

Already commented on those last 3.

So GH 6 has 10 RB repeats out of 35 songs and RB 3 has 9 GH repeats out of 22 songs.
Co-ordinate fellas.

[elicoleman]

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I can't wait for this game.

Crazy Train + Rainbow in the Dark + Bohemian Rhapsody + Here I Go Again = BADASSERY!

Looking forward to even more info at E3!

[WDOgF0reL1fe]

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Rainbow in the DARK!!??

Holy crap yes

[Blzer]

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So uh, they say that current instruments and DLC will be compatible, but what about RB1 and RB2 tracks? Also, will they be playable with the new instruments (obviously not including the keyboard), or will we have to use the old instruments to play them?

EDIT: Actually, I just noticed that the other instruments are the same. I thought they were going to be different because they spoke of actually "teaching you to play the instrument better" way back when, but oh well, less hardware for me to buy then. That still does make me wonder about the RB1 and RB2 songs being exportable though...

[WDOgF0reL1fe]

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Sorry. Too lazy to edit. But I just noticed the Keyboard is like that of Frequency/Amplitude gameplay (Rock Band Unplugged also)

Looks fantastic!

[elicoleman]

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'Rock Band 3': What's new, what's notable

By Mike Snider, USA TODAY

Development of Rock Band 3 began immediately after the September 2008 release of Rock Band 2, says project director Daniel Sussman at Cambridge, Mass.-based Harmonix.

As work continued, the music category's slide in sales made the design team deepen their focus. "We saw a kind of staleness in terms of game-play innovation," Sussman says. "Really, the main focus of Rock Band 3 development was finding new ways to experience the music and actually doubling down, if you will, on our investment in compelling game play.

"We are adding a new instrument (a 25-key, fully functioning MIDI keyboard) and we're adding a whole new mode, which is designed basically to answer that staleness factor."

The result, he says, is "an experience that is both accessible to players who are just getting into this thing, and builds something for the hard-core player who is maybe a little bored with where music games are."

Sussman and several key members of the Rock Band team (Harmonix senior designers Sylvain Dubrofsky and Dan Teasdale, and public relations gurus John Drake of Harmonix and Jeff Castaneda of MTV Games; you can see them all playing the game in the accompanying video) recently demonstrated Rock Band 3 for USA TODAY's Game Hunters and offered a test drive of the new keyboard controller, as well as the game's new authentic Pro mode aimed at helping players develop skills usable on real instruments.

"Everybody who wants to keep playing on the instruments they already have, we have enhanced new features and new gameplay for you," Dubrofsky says. "It's up to you to decide where you take this."

More on the advances for Rock Band 3 (due for the holidays for PS3, Xbox 360, Wii and Nintendo DS):

•Better story. Design your own characters and session musicians from improved character models and watch their story unfold throughout the game. Your band members are seen getting into the van to go to a show, and practicing as well as performing. They even appear as you choose songs to play. "It is a really cool way to make sure you are always in the narrative no matter which mode you are in," Teasdale says. "The entire game is essentially one story of your band."

Everything you do earns achievements in the goal-based career mode. "Previously our career modes weren't really about getting better as a Rock Band player, it was about investing time," Teasdale says. "We developed this entirely new career mode based around unlocking achievement-like goals to show your progression through the game, and also give you incentives to get better.

"We have hundreds and hundreds of these goals across instruments and gameplay modes and across (downloadable content). It is a really great way to finish Rock Band in your way, based on your skill, and not on some predetermined path of songs."

•More fluid gameplay. Players can jump in or out of songs without interrupting a song already in progress. They can also change instruments or difficulty settings during a song without pausing. "It's a really cool way to get rid of that friction that players have when they are in a party situation," Teasdale says.

Another party-friendly mode, "road challenges," is described by Teasdale as "taking Rock Band 1 and 2's band world tour (mode) and merging it with Mario Party. We tried to find a way to get the core experience people had playing the band world tour and the things they really enjoyed, like getting the van or getting random set lists, and putting that into a setting that you can finish in an evening instead of a week. So now we have all these tours which are actually you going on a tour of the East Coast or touring across the world, and you are finishing that in three hours or whatever time you think you have to play."

•Revamped song-filtering system. With the Rock Band library expected to grow to about 2,000 songs by year's end, it has grown too big for simply scrolling. With the new system, "you can say, 'only show me songs in Rock Band 3' or 'only songs under three minutes' or 'Eighties metal songs from my (downloadable) collection,' " Teasdale says. "It's a really cool way to take your full library down to a manageable list of songs."

Not to be forgotten, the keyboards' addition — along with carrying over the three-part harmonies from The Beatles: Rock Band and new Green Day: Rock Band games — means that "you can play as a seven -player band," Teasdale says, "which is an amazing experience."

•Rock Band Pro. This new music learning mode lets players develop real-world music-playing fundamentals for keyboards, guitars and drums. More realistic music notations replace the standard color-coded notes during gameplay. For guitar, numbers flow down the screen along six guitar strings, telling you where to place your hands on the neck and when to strum.

Two new guitar controllers in the works have actual strings where you strum; one is a full-sized, fully functional six-string Squier Stratocaster from Fender. "It can tell where your fingers are based on technology in the neck and the bridge of the guitar. No buttons," Drake says. "While you're playing it, it feels exactly like playing a real guitar," because that's what you're doing.

The other is a Fender Mustang Pro controller from accessory maker Mad Catz with a field of buttons in each fret. As your fingers compress the smaller non-colored buttons on that guitar's neck, your finger positions are represented in the game's display. "You can go from plucking single notes to power chords and bar chords, we have crazy stuff like tapping and slides," Dubrofsky says. "If you ever had any aspirations of connecting with the music in a deeper way ... you are really going to like Rock Band 3."

For drums, three new cymbals are added to the standard four drum pads, and you are forced to play the correct cymbal at the right time. "It really immerses you more. You feel more like a drummer," Dubrofsky says. "It's not only for expert levels. You can come in on easy and actually play Pro drums. We have all the different levels established. It's actually really fun. You are playing up on the high hat or down on the snare, and it feels more like a kit than ever before."

On keyboards, Sussman says, "we're actually utilizing the full two-octave range that the keyboard controller has. Everything that you are playing, whether you are playing on easy or expert, is accurate musical information. The track looks like a real keyboard track, and you are playing notes on the keyboard that if you were to step away from the game and were to play on a real piano, they would be the right notes."

Pro players can use the mode for private practice or incorporate it while others play the game's standard arcade modes. "You can be an expert keys-player playing with an all easy band, no problem," Drake says.

[elicoleman]

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So uh, they say that current instruments and DLC will be compatible, but what about RB1 and RB2 tracks? Also, will they be playable with the new instruments (obviously not including the keyboard), or will we have to use the old instruments to play them?

EDIT: Actually, I just noticed that the other instruments are the same. I thought they were going to be different because they spoke of actually "teaching you to play the instrument better" way back when, but oh well, less hardware for me to buy then. That still does make me wonder about the RB1 and RB2 songs being exportable though...

If you look at the article above, it does talk about teaching you how to play the instrument better. It's in the section "Rock Band Pro". Also, in the USA Today video, the HMX guys specifically mention that you'll be able to export them into Rock Band 3. I don't think there was much of a question there. I'd even assume that all 84 songs from RB2 will make it, unlike the 3 that didn't from RB to RB2.

The sweetest part of that is the new song filter.

Revamped song-filtering system. With the Rock Band library expected to grow to about 2,000 songs by year's end, it has grown too big for simply scrolling. With the new system, "you can say, 'only show me songs in Rock Band 3' or 'only songs under three minutes' or 'Eighties metal songs from my (downloadable) collection,' " Teasdale says. "It's a really cool way to take your full library down to a manageable list of songs."

[Blzer]

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Ooooooh, that explains the guitar thing. Well then, time will tell as to whether it's successful and whether it will work with all the older songs or just the RB3 songs.