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  • imported_Administrator
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    • Jul 2002
    • 7137

    #16
    Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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    Any kind of Game Boys are extremely POPULAR! I dont think the new Sony handheld will be able to compete.

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    Nintendo has had the handheld market for the most part to itself. Now they have the big blue monster Sony knocking at the door, the same monster they pissed off back in the early 90's. Last I checked Sony is dominating the console wars and has for some time. Nintendo's arrogance created the monster but remember this time the monster has a really big user base of console owners.

    There is some famous quote about history and repeating itself.

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    The launch of PlayStation was the culmination of a long-term plan to take a lead in the burgeoning videogames market. In 1988 Sony had entered into a arrangement with Nintendo to develop a CD-ROM drive for the 16bit Super Famicom, a console that was due on the market in 18 months time.

    The technology that was responsible for this deal was Sony's and Philips CD-ROM/XA, an extension of the CD-ROM format that combines compressed audio, visual and computer data, allowing all to be accessed simultaneously with the aid of extra hardware. Sony also had plans to develop another Nintendo compatible machine, a self-contained entertainment system that would play both SFC cartridges and a new CD format designed and solely licensed by Sony. Called SuperDisc this proprietary format would also form the basis of Nintendo's own CD-ROM drive - PlayStation was born!

    Sony had long recognised the potential to create a new kind of videogame on CD-ROM through its vast entertainment resources within Sony Music and Sony Pictures. As the PlayStation began to take shape, Nintendo felt increasingly sidelined and less relevant to Sony's plans. Nintendo perceived that Sony's success could threaten its survival and to the surprise and annoyance of Sony announced in 1991 that it had entered an agreement with Philips to develop a CD-ROM platform for Super Nintendo. After much legal wrangling Nintendo succeeded in extricating itself from the contract previously signed with Sony but the development of PlayStation continued on the basis that an agreement on the licensing of Nintendo CD Software would be reached.

    At the end of 1992 Sony, Nintendo and Philips signed a deal whereby PlayStation would be able to run SNES CD-ROMs but left Nintendo with the sole rights to all its games. The version of PlayStation being developed at that time never made it into production.

    But, having come so far Sony were not about to abandon the idea completely and the engineers and designers went back to their drawing boards and started again. When the PS-X surfaced in 1993 it took the industry pundits by storm.



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    • SonicMage
      NBA Ratings Wizard
      • Oct 2002
      • 3544

      #17
      Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

      We'll just have to see how Nintendo responds at the next E3. In the heat of competition, its the fans that win.
      NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

      Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
      Link to Ratings 1996-2017
      Link to Ratings 1973-1996
      Link to Ratings All-time

      Discussion found here

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      • SonicMage
        NBA Ratings Wizard
        • Oct 2002
        • 3544

        #18
        Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

        We'll just have to see how Nintendo responds at the next E3. In the heat of competition, its the fans that win.
        NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

        Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
        Link to Ratings 1996-2017
        Link to Ratings 1973-1996
        Link to Ratings All-time

        Discussion found here

        Comment

        • SonicMage
          NBA Ratings Wizard
          • Oct 2002
          • 3544

          #19
          Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

          We'll just have to see how Nintendo responds at the next E3. In the heat of competition, its the fans that win.
          NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

          Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
          Link to Ratings 1996-2017
          Link to Ratings 1973-1996
          Link to Ratings All-time

          Discussion found here

          Comment

          • VanCitySportsGuy
            NYG_Meth
            • Feb 2003
            • 9351

            #20
            Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

            Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

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            • VanCitySportsGuy
              NYG_Meth
              • Feb 2003
              • 9351

              #21
              Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

              Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

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              • VanCitySportsGuy
                NYG_Meth
                • Feb 2003
                • 9351

                #22
                Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

                Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

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                • bdunn13
                  GATA
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 4499

                  #23
                  Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                  asianflow said:
                  Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

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                  Mario on the xbox or ps2 just would not be mario.
                  Rent this space.

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                  • bdunn13
                    GATA
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4499

                    #24
                    Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                    asianflow said:
                    Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    Mario on the xbox or ps2 just would not be mario.
                    Rent this space.

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                    • bdunn13
                      GATA
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 4499

                      #25
                      Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                      asianflow said:
                      Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      Mario on the xbox or ps2 just would not be mario.
                      Rent this space.

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                      • imported_Administrator
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7137

                        #26
                        Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                        asianflow said:
                        Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

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                        Good points and we are also not talking about small 3rd parties abandoning Nintendo. A perfect example is Rockstar Games and the Grand Theft Auto series.

                        It is on PC, PS2 and now a bundle is being made for Xbox. Why is Rockstar leaving the Gamecube out of the mix?

                        You will notice GTA3 is still in the works for the GBA.

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                        • imported_Administrator
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7137

                          #27
                          Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                          asianflow said:
                          Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          Good points and we are also not talking about small 3rd parties abandoning Nintendo. A perfect example is Rockstar Games and the Grand Theft Auto series.

                          It is on PC, PS2 and now a bundle is being made for Xbox. Why is Rockstar leaving the Gamecube out of the mix?

                          You will notice GTA3 is still in the works for the GBA.

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                          • imported_Administrator
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7137

                            #28
                            Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                            asianflow said:
                            Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            Good points and we are also not talking about small 3rd parties abandoning Nintendo. A perfect example is Rockstar Games and the Grand Theft Auto series.

                            It is on PC, PS2 and now a bundle is being made for Xbox. Why is Rockstar leaving the Gamecube out of the mix?

                            You will notice GTA3 is still in the works for the GBA.

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                            • SonicMage
                              NBA Ratings Wizard
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 3544

                              #29
                              Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

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                              bdoughty said:
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                              asianflow said:
                              Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Good points and we are also not talking about small 3rd parties abandoning Nintendo. A perfect example is Rockstar Games and the Grand Theft Auto series.

                              It is on PC, PS2 and now a bundle is being made for Xbox. Why is Rockstar leaving the Gamecube out of the mix?

                              You will notice GTA3 is still in the works for the GBA.

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                              Simple, at least to me it is. Of the four (PC,GC,PS2,Xbox), which has the least main memory and disk capacity? Gamecube, of course. Sometimes its tough to port a game over to another system with a lot less main memory available. I read some articles about how N64 used to be a B**** to port to because it only had 4MB(!) of RAM. One example of these articles is found here.

                              I'm sure a game like GTA3 has nearly maxed out its memory requirements, making it difficult to port to a system with tighter constraints.
                              NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                              Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                              Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                              Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                              Link to Ratings All-time

                              Discussion found here

                              Comment

                              • SonicMage
                                NBA Ratings Wizard
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 3544

                                #30
                                Re: Poor Nintendo just can\'t keep third party support

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                bdoughty said:
                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                asianflow said:
                                Nintendo is fighint a losing war on 3rd party support. 3rd parties don't sell well because of the controller and Nintendo games. Yes that sounds weird, but for most people they would rather buy a Nintendo made game vs. a 3rd party because 9 times out of 10 the game is better. But Nintendo has tons of money in the bank, and their Gameboys outsell the PS2. But I love Nintendo games, but I'm more of a Sports Gamer and that's why I traded it in for a Xbox. I wish Nintendo would go 3rd party.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Good points and we are also not talking about small 3rd parties abandoning Nintendo. A perfect example is Rockstar Games and the Grand Theft Auto series.

                                It is on PC, PS2 and now a bundle is being made for Xbox. Why is Rockstar leaving the Gamecube out of the mix?

                                You will notice GTA3 is still in the works for the GBA.

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Simple, at least to me it is. Of the four (PC,GC,PS2,Xbox), which has the least main memory and disk capacity? Gamecube, of course. Sometimes its tough to port a game over to another system with a lot less main memory available. I read some articles about how N64 used to be a B**** to port to because it only had 4MB(!) of RAM. One example of these articles is found here.

                                I'm sure a game like GTA3 has nearly maxed out its memory requirements, making it difficult to port to a system with tighter constraints.
                                NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                                Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                                Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                                Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                                Link to Ratings All-time

                                Discussion found here

                                Comment

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