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  • LingeringRegime
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    • Jun 2007
    • 17089

    #316
    Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42520

      #317
      Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

      ^ 15:40 is a big reason why I'm sticking with COD and not switching over to Battlefield. 60 FPS is huge for me. I'm glad they have zero intentions of letting off that in the future.

      EDIT: Well, I just watched the whole video, and I must say that I am thoroughly impressed. This isn't just MW2, unlike what I and others have said. Sure, it sounds the same and melee kills are the same, but there really is a whole new front to this game that not only promotes balance (I know some people really don't like that term in some ways though), but it also says that a high individual K : D ratio isn't the only thing worth getting, and you earn your XP and upgrades more significantly in other areas of teamwork.

      Combine that with the Elite stuff (even the free packages), there really is a lot to like about this upcoming release. Even visually, it is much better. Character movement is ungodly better than anything we've gotten before this, and the lighting/de-saturation really helps the look of the game, IMO. There will be 16 maps out of the box, and some of them look a lot less vertical than MW2, something that a lot of people wanted. I think they just seem to "get it." Even though they are targeting a mass audience, they still listen to their fan bases. As they put it, it's their way of making this game full of "**** realism."
      Last edited by Blzer; 09-09-2011, 12:40 PM.
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      • LingeringRegime
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 17089

        #318
        Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

        Yeah, I really like the way they have listened to the fans. I love the fact you can set up custom games with so many options and then share them via facebook.

        They are really setting a precedent for the whole FPS genre to follow. I will more than likely get the hardened version.

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        • SinisterAlex
          Canadian eh?
          • Oct 2009
          • 4551

          #319
          Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

          Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
          Yeah, I really like the way they have listened to the fans. I love the fact you can set up custom games with so many options and then share them via facebook.

          They are really setting a precedent for the whole FPS genre to follow. I will more than likely get the hardened version.
          I've been thinking of changing my pre order to the Hardened one as well. Free year of Elite that gives you monthly DLC that you get to keep? And the game comes in a fancy metal case for what? 89.99? Elite for one year alone is 50$. Good deal in my mind.

          I might just got a change my pre order when I go and pick up NHL 12 on this coming Tuesday.
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          • Cyros
            ULTRAAAA!!!!
            • Jun 2003
            • 12628

            #320
            Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

            Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
            Yeah, I really like the way they have listened to the fans. I love the fact you can set up custom games with so many options and then share them via facebook.

            They are really setting a precedent for the whole FPS genre to follow. I will more than likely get the hardened version.
            Not to be meant as a shot at the CoD franchise, but they kind of have already, and I'm not sure it has been beneficial to have so many CoD clones out there in the market.
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            • sven
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 6021

              #321
              Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

              Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
              Yeah, I really like the way they have listened to the fans. I love the fact you can set up custom games with so many options and then share them via facebook.

              They are really setting a precedent for the whole FPS genre to follow. I will more than likely get the hardened version.
              At best they've done a half-assed job of listening to the fans. If they really cared what the fans think killstreaks wouldn't stack, they'd have done something to curb quick scoping, and death streaks wouldn't exist.

              Treyarch did a much better job of listening to the fans. Sadly they did a much crappier job with the netcode and hit detection.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42520

                #322
                Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                Originally posted by sven
                At best they've done a half-assed job of listening to the fans. If they really cared what the fans think killstreaks wouldn't stack, they'd have done something to curb quick scoping, and death streaks wouldn't exist.

                Treyarch did a much better job of listening to the fans. Sadly they did a much crappier job with the netcode and hit detection.
                It depends on which fans they're listening to. They obviously hear the complaints from everybody, but from a business standpoint, they want newbie gamers to be able to have fun online as well, because they want to sell this game to them. They keep everybody in mind, and develop a certain balance/equilibrium that I think is much stronger this year.

                Besides, who really cares about deathstreaks? I'm not playing there like it's a poker game, reading everybody else's hand. If I don't kill them, I don't kill them. I'm not going to complain about it for ages on end, just because some player couldn't get a kill in their last four deaths. And on that end, that frustrated gamer just needs a little boost in confidence so that they won't be so frustrated that they'll throw the controller against the wall after dying so much. IW wants them to stay in the game. It's not the end of the world.
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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #323
                  Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                  The actual death-streaks are of little or no value (honestly) and more of an increase in luck, if anything else. What I don't agree with is rewarding players for playing poorly. It just seems like the opposite of what should be done.



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                  • sven
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 6021

                    #324
                    Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                    Originally posted by Blzer

                    Besides, who really cares about deathstreaks?

                    Honestly I really don't. It is one of those things I care about more in principle than in application. I was just using death streaks as example cuz they were pretty much universally hated.

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                    • Blzer
                      Resident film pundit
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42520

                      #325
                      Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                      Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                      The actual death-streaks are of little or no value (honestly) and more of an increase in luck, if anything else. What I don't agree with is rewarding players for playing poorly. It just seems like the opposite of what should be done.
                      I understand that, but then it creates this large unbalance.

                      It's like when ESPN MLB 2K5 used that confidence meter for hitting (perhaps pitching too, can't remember). There is a fine line between hitting well building up your confidence, and built up confidence improving your hitting. Once your player had a steam of confidence going into an at-bat, it was almost impossible not to get on base. There wasn't any way to create a downfall, per se.

                      I'm not saying that he should start hitting poorly afterwards, but there is a true law of averages in baseball that comes with the probability that a certain kind of ball in play will be caught, etc. This seemed to outmatch that probability outright, leading to .450 batting averages, if lucky.

                      I'm just saying... people already rank up, have more weapon attachments and available perks, attain more killstreaks, and are probably already better players, and you want them to be able to have all of this while some casual gamer comes in two weeks after launch, purchases the game, and goes 3-18 on a round since he has nothing to rely on but a basic M4A1 with a red dot sight? He will eventually climb up the ladder, but only after finding a room where not everybody else is dominating. He needs something to help him get up there, otherwise he'll always be stuck on the bottom, probably not wanting to play again. They need incentive to go on after a level of frustration (in this case, four consecutive deaths). Once they get better, deathstreaks will be moot anyway. Besides, it's not like people are intentionally killing themselves four times just so that they can get a deathstreak.

                      If they changed it to five or six deaths in a row, I'm sure many people won't have any complaints about it. Oh, and Last Stand is gone, in case anybody was wondering.


                      Originally posted by sven
                      Honestly I really don't. It is one of those things I care about more in principle than in application. I was just using death streaks as example cuz they were pretty much universally hated.
                      Meh, I'm merely indifferent. There are worse things to worry about with this game that needs addressing, IMO.
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                      • sven
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6021

                        #326
                        Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                        And I brought up two much worse things.

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                        • bukktown
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3257

                          #327
                          Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                          Originally posted by sven
                          At best they've done a half-assed job of listening to the fans. If they really cared what the fans think killstreaks wouldn't stack, they'd have done something to curb quick scoping, and death streaks wouldn't exist.

                          Treyarch did a much better job of listening to the fans. Sadly they did a much crappier job with the netcode and hit detection.
                          Did IW listen to the fans when they made COD4?

                          Listening to fans is what you do if you are not highly compensated to be awesome!

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                          • bukktown
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3257

                            #328
                            Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            I understand that, but then it creates this large unbalance.

                            It's like when ESPN MLB 2K5 used that confidence meter for hitting (perhaps pitching too, can't remember). There is a fine line between hitting well building up your confidence, and built up confidence improving your hitting. Once your player had a steam of confidence going into an at-bat, it was almost impossible not to get on base. There wasn't any way to create a downfall, per se.

                            I'm not saying that he should start hitting poorly afterwards, but there is a true law of averages in baseball that comes with the probability that a certain kind of ball in play will be caught, etc. This seemed to outmatch that probability outright, leading to .450 batting averages, if lucky.

                            I'm just saying... people already rank up, have more weapon attachments and available perks, attain more killstreaks, and are probably already better players, and you want them to be able to have all of this while some casual gamer comes in two weeks after launch, purchases the game, and goes 3-18 on a round since he has nothing to rely on but a basic M4A1 with a red dot sight? He will eventually climb up the ladder, but only after finding a room where not everybody else is dominating. He needs something to help him get up there, otherwise he'll always be stuck on the bottom, probably not wanting to play again. They need incentive to go on after a level of frustration (in this case, four consecutive deaths). Once they get better, deathstreaks will be moot anyway. Besides, it's not like people are intentionally killing themselves four times just so that they can get a deathstreak.

                            If they changed it to five or six deaths in a row, I'm sure many people won't have any complaints about it. Oh, and Last Stand is gone, in case anybody was wondering.



                            Meh, I'm merely indifferent. There are worse things to worry about with this game that needs addressing, IMO.
                            Or, a way to play the game totally different that is just as much fun.
                            To me that is what 1887, Marathon/Lightweight, Noobtoob and Riot Shield were all about.

                            And they were what made MW2 so awesome!

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                            • Alextricity
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 113

                              #329
                              Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                              HEY EVERYONE.

                              Nice to see a thread in regards to MW3 on this site. I'm scared to be as excited as I am for this game - I'm kind of freaking out, really hoping it plays nothing like MW2 because... I HATED that game.

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                              • sven
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 6021

                                #330
                                Re: Modern Warfare 3 PS3/360

                                Most people at XP said it felt a lot like MW2.

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