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  • Flawless
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    • Mar 2004
    • 16780

    #661
    Re: Borderlands 2

    Been playing around with different builds for the Mechromancer (level 50 now) and I'm starting to really like the Ordered Chaos tree. It makes for a unique and exciting play style unlike any other class. I'm torn on a build that's either more OC with BFF or more BFF with OC.

    The way I set up OC is not relying on large stacks of Anarchy:




    I get 25 stacks when I have 0 after a kill with Rational Anarchist, then I'm activating Discord which gives you +65% accuracy, +25% fire rate, and 3% health regen. The health regen works nicely to mitigate the penalty of what might be the best skill in the entire game, Blood Soaked Shields: regain 100% of your shields after a kill, penalty is only losing 5% health. 5/5 in Typecast Iconoclast helps you stay in Discord longer. Basically, I'm in Discord a majority of the time in combat.

    The final game changer With Claws is pretty powerful with Hide of Terramorphous shield. If I'm in a pinch and need some health it only takes one swipe and I'm in a healthy state, and it costs only 1 stack and Blood Soaked Shields procs. Cooking Up Trouble from the BFF tree allows me to regain any health after combat and The Better Half gives me even more fire rate: 60% when magazine is at least half empty. Close Enough is actually really useful for Anarchy. I know Gearbox kind of positioned it as the skill for less skilled gamers, but with the accuracy reduction from stacks of Anarchy those bullets that do miss will ricochet and do damage that they otherwise wouldn't have. DT is viable too. The 35% speed increase from Annoyed Android has it flying around in battles. I use a Tenacious Roboteer class mod to give me boosts in Potent as Pony and Made of Sterner Stuff (the final two skills in BFF I just have enough points to put in). Also has +15% cooldown and +34% melee damage. Sadly, the melee damage doesn't apply to DT.

    But then there's the final game changer in the BFF tree, Sharing is Caring: DT copies your shield. There's some really great legendary shields which makes this skill awesome. Hide of Terramorphous is great here too, because it gives DT high roid damage and nova blast when depleted, and spike damage to enemies that melee DT. Flame of the Firehawk is pretty crazy with nova blasts going off all over. Going more BFF would mean I would have to sacrifice With Claws and Annoyed Android, but that might not be so bad.

    Little Big Trouble is okay, but to get to the worthwhile skills you have to put 10 points into skills that really aren't that great, at least compared to the first two tiers of the other trees. Shock and Aaagghh is nice though.
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    • Candyman5
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      • Nov 2006
      • 14380

      #662
      Re: Borderlands 2

      I want DLC call Revenge of Butt Stallion.
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      • Mabster
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        • Mar 2009
        • 7659

        #663
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        Edit: as if anyone needs me to post these here anymore.

        Anyway, on the topic of purple weapons, has anyone done the trek for the Lord of the Rings easter egg?
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        • Flawless
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          • Mar 2004
          • 16780

          #664
          Re: Borderlands 2

          Nice. I ended up using my last golden key yesterday by accident. There's another chest in the DLC that doesn't look like the one in Sanctuary and I ran up to open it quickly; got some crappy Slag Hyperion pistol.
          Go Noles!!! >>----->

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          • Candyman5
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            • Nov 2006
            • 14380

            #665
            Re: Borderlands 2

            Originally posted by Mabster
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            Edit: as if anyone needs me to post these here anymore.

            Anyway, on the topic of purple weapons, has anyone done the trek for the Lord of the Rings easter egg?
            No my friend did though.
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            • Mabster
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              • Mar 2009
              • 7659

              #666
              Re: Borderlands 2

              Originally posted by Flawless
              There's another chest in the DLC that doesn't look like the one in Sanctuary...
              I thought there might be but hadn't read for sure if there was. That's good to know. I've only scraped the DLC enough to get the new vehicle and the unique
              Spoiler


              My regular 4 some is going to finish the main mission line in TVHM tonight and then we'll tackle Booty together. One of them has gotten a corrupt DLC file 5 times in a row so doesn't officially have it yet. Hopefully he gets it cleared up.
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              • Candyman5
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                • Nov 2006
                • 14380

                #667
                Re: Borderlands 2

                Originally posted by Mabster
                I thought there might be but hadn't read for sure if there was. That's good to know. I've only scraped the DLC enough to get the new vehicle and the unique
                Spoiler


                My regular 4 some is going to finish the main mission line in TVHM tonight and then we'll tackle Booty together. One of them has gotten a corrupt DLC file 5 times in a row so doesn't officially have it yet. Hopefully he gets it cleared up.
                Its so Bull**** that The Warrior orange drop rate goes from 75% during story mission to <5% after. I also hate how in Borderlands 2 they made certain bosses only drop certain orange items and not just have them have a higher chance forcing player to either have a save before the moonshot, duping or farming this pathetic drop rate. 2 days I been farming and haven't got 1 Orange. -_-
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                • Mabster
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7659

                  #668
                  Originally posted by Candyman5
                  Its so Bull**** that The Warrior orange drop rate goes from 75% during story mission to <5% after. I also hate how in Borderlands 2 they made certain bosses only drop certain orange items and not just have them have a higher chance forcing player to either have a save before the moonshot, duping or farming this pathetic drop rate. 2 days I been farming and haven't got 1 Orange. -_-
                  Yea, I don't like that only certain mobs drop certain things. Its also BS that stuff drops under the warriors body that you can't reach. On my pt 1 he dropped a legendary there. We spent a good 40 minutes trying to pick that ish up.
                  Also the Son of Mothrakk and his drops going straight through the floor. I want that sniper he drops but not going to try for it till they fix the floor.

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                  • Candyman5
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                    • Nov 2006
                    • 14380

                    #669
                    Re: Borderlands 2

                    Originally posted by Mabster
                    Yea, I don't like that only certain mobs drop certain things. Its also BS that stuff drops under the warriors body that you can't reach. On my pt 1 he dropped a legendary there. We spent a good 40 minutes trying to pick that ish up.
                    Also the Son of Mothrakk and his drops going straight through the floor. I want that sniper he drops but not going to try for it till they fix the floor.

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                    Lol hate to tell you this now but just leave the area then come back. The body disappears.
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                    • Quint75
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #670
                      Flawless, are the bugs in the Mechromancer game play not bad enough to discourage you? Thinking about doing that on my 2nd play through.

                      In other news I did the mine car mission last night in the caustic caverns and ran into a B.A. Pyre Thresher. Holy crap. That thing must have killed me a half dozen times. I am playing as Zer0 and at level 25 and I never stood a chance. I finally just gave up and ran away and even that resulted in a few deaths. Cost me a heckuva lot of money.
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                      • Mabster
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7659

                        #671
                        Re: Borderlands 2

                        Originally posted by Candyman5
                        Lol hate to tell you this now but just leave the area then come back. The body disappears.
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                        • cubsfan203
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                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6689

                          #672
                          Re: Borderlands 2

                          Finally got my hands on The Bee. That thing is so cheap, yet so awesome! Now if I could just find a Conference Call I can be one of the cool kids.
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                          • Candyman5
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                            • Nov 2006
                            • 14380

                            #673
                            Re: Borderlands 2

                            Originally posted by cubsfan203
                            Finally got my hands on The Bee. That thing is so cheap, yet so awesome! Now if I could just find a Conference Call I can be one of the cool kids.
                            Good luck, I been farming for 2 days and havent found one.
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                            • Flawless
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 16780

                              #674
                              Re: Borderlands 2

                              Originally posted by Quint75
                              Flawless, are the bugs in the Mechromancer game play not bad enough to discourage you? Thinking about doing that on my 2nd play through.
                              No, but it's hard to say if others will be. The build I posted gets around most of the skill tree related bugs. I didn't spec that way because of the bugs though. It's just something I wanted to try and ended up liking. Despite the bugs, I really like the class just as much as my Siren.


                              The bugs I've experienced:
                              • Buck Up (BFF) - DT will try and repair enemies shields, and try and repair your shield in Fight For Your Life. I felt the good outweighed the bad with this one. This skill saved me countless times, but now I've discovered how good Blood Soaked Shields is and it's not worth having anymore. It can still be beneficial in co-op.

                              • The Stare (LBT) - DT has tried to attack me with this skill both out of and in Fight For Your Life. Apparently this only occurs when you have both this and Buck Up. I will say it didn't happen often when I was using it though.

                              • Anarchy (OC) - Stacks of Anarchy will randomly disappear. This only happens when playing co-op and you're not the host. This bug isn't a problem for me, because I'm not reliant on large stacks.

                              • Robot Rampage (OC) - A looping whirling wind sound will occur if DT kills an enemy before this attack is finished. It stays until DT's duration is over or it kills another enemey. This hasn't bothered me yet, but I could always put that point into something like Explosive Clap, which is another good DT skill.


                              Non skill tree related:
                              • DT does basically no damage to Crystalisk - These are easy to kill, but it's kind of weird DT can't do anything. Even the AoE from Explosive Clap does nothing.
                              • Reload speed bonuses from Prodigy class mods actually decreases your reload speed - Not sure if this is working as intended and the wording is wrong, or it's just bugged. Luckily, I find the other class mods much more appealing.
                              • DT clips through the world, completely ignoring geometry - This doesn't bother me one bit because DT is killing things. If it wants to pass through walls and stuff to go kill something I'm all for it. I'm sure this is intended by design because the pathing issues would be a big problem to solve otherwise. Anyone who's played Mordecai in BL1 has experienced Bloodwing getting stuck in geometry.
                              • DT covers a portion of your inventory screen when it's in your field of vision - A small niggle and you can just exit to rotate the camera away, but definitely a bug.



                              Gearbox is aware of the Buck Up skill issues and looking into it, so I'm sure their aware of the other things that have been brought up too.
                              Go Noles!!! >>----->

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                              • Mabster
                                Crunchy
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 7659

                                #675
                                Re: Borderlands 2

                                Originally posted by Flawless
                                • DT clips through the world, completely ignoring geometry

                                I guess since buzzards and rakks can do it DT follows the same rules.
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