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  • sox73b3
    Rookie
    • Feb 2003
    • 412

    #46
    Re: Rocksmith

    Wow...great response. Thank You.

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    • DJ
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2003
      • 17756

      #47
      Re: Rocksmith

      I've been really tempted to pick this game up. I took guitar lessons for 3 years (it was a class at my high school) and I'd say I was decent. I learned songs like 'Tears in Heaven', 'Every Rose Has Its Thorn' and a few others. All acoustic.

      A decade ago my wife bought me an acoustic guitar, and I just never really used it. I took lessons for a few weeks, but the guy that was teaching me moved away and I eventually sold that guitar.

      I'm itching to learn again, though. I just think it'd be a nice hobby to have and I really enjoy music (don't ask me to sing!).

      One of the issues I had the last time I played was that my wrists weren't very flexible, so wrapping my fingers around the neck proved difficult. I'm sure if I had kept up with it I would've gained more dexterity.

      I know a few people have asked the question, but could you use an Acoustic guitar with this game? Or an acoustic-electric guitar?
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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42515

        #48
        Re: Rocksmith

        Originally posted by DJ
        I know a few people have asked the question, but could you use an Acoustic guitar with this game? Or an acoustic-electric guitar?
        I have an acoustic-electric (prior to buying the electric guitar with RS2014), and it's a mixed back.

        For one thing, it will be based on the guitar itself but it didn't always seem to pick up my notes. I'd have to pick a bit harder to make sure it happened, and same thing does with hammer-ons and pull-offs. This is why you can't play solos on acoustic guitars like you can on electric guitars (plus the strings are bigger, further apart, and you can't go as high up the neck).

        For another thing, you can hear your guitar a lot more which makes things kind of weird. The game has the slightest of delays (even when using analog audio cables but especially with HDMI), and it can screw you up badly when you're hearing literally two different guitar sounds especially at two different times. The only decent solution to this is to wear big headpones and crank up the volume, otherwise it's a bit of an iffy result. That, or turn down the game volume and just hear yourself play acoustically. The guitar tone won't match the song, but at least you can see your results as you're hitting notes.

        For a game like this, unless you're doing the rhythm sections, unfortunately I think electric guitar is the only way to go. Acoustic-electric works, but I wouldn't buy one simply for this game. The fact that I had one before helped me get the game, but I bundled RS2014 with an electric guitar, and that worked out perfectly for me. I still suck at solos and this game in general though, despite what I can do on an acoustic.
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        • sox73b3
          Rookie
          • Feb 2003
          • 412

          #49
          Re: Rocksmith

          I am looking at this model as starter guitar. Thoughts?

          http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846

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          • Bmore
            Rookie
            • Jul 2005
            • 624

            #50
            Re: Rocksmith

            Originally posted by sox73b3
            I am looking at this model as starter guitar. Thoughts?

            http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...pf_rd_i=507846
            That was my 2nd electric guitar almost 13 years ago. I actually still have it, but it's in pieces. I was going to re-finish it and add new electronics, but never got around to it.

            You can't beat it for the price. My only issue with it was the thickness of the neck. It's not very noticeable once you build up your finger strength though.
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            • Jonsco28
              Bob Loblaw
              • Sep 2008
              • 1057

              #51
              Re: Rocksmith

              Originally posted by sox73b3
              I am thinking of picking this up with a guitar.

              Is it possible to actually learn how to play using this setup? I would love to learn how to play but I have never had lessons and would be starting from scratch.

              Or should I look into lessons and use this as a tool.
              If you really have an interest in playing guitar, I don't know that Rocksmith is what I would suggest right out of the gate. I've seen the 'learn to play guitar in 60 days' moniker, but I just don't see how. Maybe, and I am definitely not saying that it wouldn't work or be helpful.

              When I started playing three years ago, I feel as though I had similar ideas as you maybe do. I wanted to learn how to play and I thought learning through a video game would be a fun and interactive way of doing it. I started with Rockband 3 (yes, I bought that guitar) and then moved on to Rocksmith. I never really put much time into it though. It was entertaining and I thought it was pretty cool at the start, but in the end, I didn't feel like it was really teaching me anything. I ended up finding sources through the internet and began taking lessons that way. About six months ago I started taking actual lessons, which has really pushed me further and faster.

              Like Blzer said...you have to have be persistent and dedicate time to it pretty much every day if you want to go anywhere, even if it's just working on a few chords for ten minutes or so. That's where an acoustic is nice to have sitting around. You can just pick it up and play it without plugging it into anything.

              If you do it with Rocksmith alone, I'd like to know how it goes and how it works for you. Learning the guitar is VERY rewarding if you have the desire to pursue it. Best of luck!

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              • sydrogerdavid
                MVP
                • May 2009
                • 3109

                #52
                Re: Rocksmith

                If you do choose the Rocksmith path, do it in conjunction with justinguitar.com. Justin runs his site on an honor system. If you feel like you've learned something from him, you can donate to the site.

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                • eXperiment63
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 3077

                  #53
                  Re: Rocksmith

                  Anyone else buy it since the release for next gen?

                  I played it a bit on pc prior, but now I'm hooked up on my XBone. I love this game. It isn't going to teach a completely new to guitar playing person how to play. BUT, if you already have a semblance of how to play, it's fantastic. It's practicing without feeling like you're practicing. It takes the tediousness of spending an hour working on licks and phrasing out of it.

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42515

                    #54
                    Re: Rocksmith

                    If HDMI latency issues were an issue on PS3 and the PS4 only has the ability to output HDMI, unless they fixed it there is no way I'm getting that version over my currently owned PS3 version.
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                    • eXperiment63
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 3077

                      #55
                      Re: Rocksmith

                      Ps4 doesn't have optical out?

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42515

                        #56
                        Re: Rocksmith

                        Originally posted by eXperiment63
                        Ps4 doesn't have optical out?
                        I heard RCA is the only one with zero latency issues. HDMI is slowest, then optical, then red/white cables.
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                        • eXperiment63
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 3077

                          #57
                          Re: Rocksmith

                          Meh. I'm using optical and its not too bad. It's probably around 30ms or so, which is nothing.

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42515

                            #58
                            Re: Rocksmith

                            Originally posted by eXperiment63
                            Meh. I'm using optical and its not too bad. It's probably around 30ms or so, which is nothing.
                            I tried it back on Rocksmith (original) on PS3, and it was too much for me. With the HDMI being significantly worse, I'm legitimately fearful of purchasing the PS4 version.
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                            • eXperiment63
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 3077

                              #59
                              Re: Rocksmith

                              Probably depends on your receiver as well with optical. The only thing I'm fearful of with this game I is how much I'm gonna drop in the artist packs haha.

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                              • allBthere
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 5847

                                #60
                                Re: Rocksmith

                                Got my new Guit'r!!! I'm totally in love with it and can't contain my smile.

                                I got Rocksmith a few weeks ago and think it's a pretty solid SUPPLEMENTAL learning tool. It does have a delay, but not so much that it's unusable for me.

                                I got my guitar because it's a hollow body electric that makes a great deal of acoustic noise so that I can practice completely unplugged, and keep the action of an electric as I'm not too fond of acoustic guitars in general.

                                I think the biggest issue with Rocksmith is that it brings you along too slow and basic so that once you turn up the difficulty you don't have the skills necessary to play the song - my other big gripe is that so many of the songs aren't great choices or are in another tune aside from E standard. The problem there is who wants to adjust the tuning every other song? I find myself just skipping songs because I don't want to retune so often.

                                What I mean by the skills point is that they should just expect even beginners to play entire chords... learning to play chords with one note pressed imo isn't a great way to learn. Just play the entire basic chords! This becomes an issue because I can play chords no problem, but adding notes between them becomes hard when I'm used to the game just getting me to do super easy chords.
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