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  • Dos_Santos
    Pro
    • Aug 2012
    • 652

    #2266
    Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

    Originally posted by bigbob
    Hopefully they nerf the shotgun and some pistols.

    Of course, nerfing the shotgun would take the fun out of killing the shotgunner, picking up said shotgun and killing him with it.
    Pistols and shotguns absolutely should be the first two nerfed.

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    • Marino
      Moderator
      • Jan 2008
      • 18113

      #2267
      Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

      Put me in the group who thinks shotguns are not OP and don't need to be nerfed.

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      • Chef Matt
        True.
        • Apr 2008
        • 7832

        #2268
        Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

        Originally posted by Marino
        Put me in the group who thinks shotguns are not OP and don't need to be nerfed.
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        • Kearnzo
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 5963

          #2269
          Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

          Well, the shotguns do exactly what they are intended to do. Up close, they are deadly. At a distance, you need to find a corner to run around before you get shot.

          Now, I think the issue people have with shotguns has more to do with map design. When you are basically funneled down tight corridors and run into a guy with an 870, you're likely gonna die.

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          • JMD
            MVP
            • Feb 2008
            • 4456

            #2270
            Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

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            • bukktown
              MVP
              • Jan 2007
              • 3257

              #2271
              Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

              Originally posted by Kearnzo
              Well, the shotguns do exactly what they are intended to do. Up close, they are deadly. At a distance, you need to find a corner to run around before you get shot.

              Now, I think the issue people have with shotguns has more to do with map design. When you are basically funneled down tight corridors and run into a guy with an 870, you're likely gonna die.
              I agree totally! I've never felt I lost a battle to shotgun that I deserved to win with my silenced SMG.

              Pistols on the other hand, I lose to them a lot at close/medium range with my silenced SMG.

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              • masterkembo
                Rookie
                • Aug 2008
                • 499

                #2272
                Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                Originally posted by Dos_Santos
                Pistols and shotguns absolutely should be the first two nerfed.
                Lets get rid of Sniper Rifles and SMG's too, then we can have 12 people running around with assault rifles and target finders instead of the customary 8.

                I don't understand what the problem with shotguns is - if you're running with a shotgun and someone sees you from a distance you're screwed. If you miss with a shotgun, you're probably in trouble. If you're in close, you're probably going to get the kill. What's the problem with this?

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                • bigbob
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 10471

                  #2273
                  Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                  Originally posted by masterkembo
                  Lets get rid of Sniper Rifles and SMG's too, then we can have 12 people running around with assault rifles and target finders instead of the customary 8.

                  I don't understand what the problem with shotguns is - if you're running with a shotgun and someone sees you from a distance you're screwed. If you miss with a shotgun, you're probably in trouble. If you're in close, you're probably going to get the kill. What's the problem with this?
                  The fact that a certain shotgun with certain attachments makes it deadly from long range.

                  If I'm 100 feet from you, I should not die from one shot of the shotgun.

                  No one cares if you die from a shotgun up close.

                  It's the fact that, again, with certain attachments that should have NO effect on the range makes it an effective long range weapon.
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                  • Chef Matt
                    True.
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 7832

                    #2274
                    Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                    Originally posted by masterkembo
                    Lets get rid of Sniper Rifles and SMG's too, then we can have 12 people running around with assault rifles and target finders instead of the customary 8.

                    I don't understand what the problem with shotguns is - if you're running with a shotgun and someone sees you from a distance you're screwed. If you miss with a shotgun, you're probably in trouble. If you're in close, you're probably going to get the kill. What's the problem with this?
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                    • Kramer5150
                      Medicore Mike
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 7393

                      #2275
                      Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                      I don't have a problem with getting killed by shotguns IF they get the first jump....what I do have a problem with is when I get the jump and fire round after round into the dude,and am getting hit marker after hit marker...only to have them fire once through my parade of bullets and kill me.

                      It doesn't matter if it's an SMG or assault rifle,same outcome. I've said before that I understand that shotguns are deadly up close....BUT when I'm firing round after round from either an SMG or assault rifle,even getting the first jump,there IS a problem.
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                      • Kearnzo
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5963

                        #2276
                        Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                        Originally posted by CowherPower
                        I don't have a problem with getting killed by shotguns IF they get the first jump....what I do have a problem with is when I get the jump and fire round after round into the dude,and am getting hit marker after hit marker...only to have them fire once through my parade of bullets and kill me.

                        It doesn't matter if it's an SMG or assault rifle,same outcome. I've said before that I understand that shotguns are deadly up close....BUT when I'm firing round after round from either an SMG or assault rifle,even getting the first jump,there IS a problem.
                        But that's been a problem in CoD for as long as I can remember. People running through bullets only to knife/shoot you and get the kill. It's not limited to shotguns.

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                        • authentic
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5812

                          #2277
                          Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                          Originally posted by Kearnzo
                          But that's been a problem in CoD for as long as I can remember. People running through bullets only to knife/shoot you and get the kill. It's not limited to shotguns.
                          I really haven't had any issue with this in this game. The only real issue I have is the lag compensation and I've just accepted what the game is and try to enjoy it. I have still have a high KD among all my friends and have stopped really caring about numbers. I personally don't think shotguns should be nerfed a lot, or at all. If they even buff the shotgun power and fix the lag comp, I would be perfectly fine. This game would be epic if it had Black Ops 1 network coding. The standard for playing this game is like 2 mbps download. That's basically DSL.
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                          • Kramer5150
                            Medicore Mike
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 7393

                            #2278
                            Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                            Originally posted by Kearnzo
                            But that's been a problem in CoD for as long as I can remember. People running through bullets only to knife/shoot you and get the kill. It's not limited to shotguns.
                            I'm not familiar with past COD's because I never played them enough to really care. I mention shotguns because that's the gun that seems that it happens most for me.
                            I never said it was exclusive to shotguns,it very well may happen with others as well,but as I've mentioned the shotgun is the most noticeable when it comes to this issue.
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                            • Tyrant8RDFL
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3563

                              #2279
                              Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                              Originally posted by masterkembo
                              Lets get rid of Sniper Rifles and SMG's too, then we can have 12 people running around with assault rifles and target finders instead of the customary 8.

                              I don't understand what the problem with shotguns is - if you're running with a shotgun and someone sees you from a distance you're screwed. If you miss with a shotgun, you're probably in trouble. If you're in close, you're probably going to get the kill. What's the problem with this?
                              I think its more to do with the map design and lag compensation. Someone can easily run up behind you and take you down with one shot of a shotgun, and in other instances its annoying when your pumping bullets into a guy and your 5 bullets doesn't take him down but his one shotgun blast does.

                              Now maybe its lag comp or the way the game is designed. Look at knife kills you can run through bullets and with one stab of the knife get the kill.

                              COD can easily be a superb game if certain aspects of it was taken just a tad more seriously and thought out more.

                              Here is a list of a few things that should have been thought out better for each COD except WAW since I didn't play it much, so I cant add anything to that game.

                              Knife kills for all COD's should have been implemented more as a stealth tactic and not as a part of a gun fight. Stab someone from behind you get a instant kill as the animation shows a stab right in the neck. Your running towards someone who is shooting you guess what knifing is disabled since your being hit by gun fire. This would eliminate panic knifing. In the event you stab someone in the frontal area and he never got a shot off the game should display a animation where your stabbing the enemy right in the heart and getting a instant kill.

                              One more item for all COD's is lag comp. Makes playing the game unbearable at times. This needs to be figured out and made fair for all to play.

                              COD4:
                              No Martyrdom, no last stand, no 3 frags and no 3 special grenades perks. Other than that COD4 was all about gun kills. Not many kill streaks which I liked.

                              MW2:
                              No one man army, no last stand, no death streaks, and no tactical knife.

                              Black Ops:
                              Hmmm I guess no last stand. This one here was pretty much very balanced.

                              MW3:
                              No weapon proficiencies at all. Fix site rep pro perk where you can hear someone who has dead silence pro. No death streaks.

                              Black Ops 2:
                              Well I cant really answer this one since I rarely play it, but the one thing that bothers me the most about the game is the map designs. It forces only one style of play.

                              I may be missing a few but if these things didn't exist for these games it would make the experience much more enjoyable .
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                              • Dos_Santos
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 652

                                #2280
                                Re: Call Of Duty: Black Ops 2

                                Originally posted by masterkembo
                                Lets get rid of Sniper Rifles and SMG's too, then we can have 12 people running around with assault rifles and target finders instead of the customary 8.

                                I don't understand what the problem with shotguns is - if you're running with a shotgun and someone sees you from a distance you're screwed. If you miss with a shotgun, you're probably in trouble. If you're in close, you're probably going to get the kill. What's the problem with this?
                                Read what Big Bob wrote.

                                Some of you guys get too ridiculous and emotional with your comments.

                                The range is broken on the shotgun and the pistols are too overpowered.

                                If you can't see that the pistols are too effective, then you just aren't paying attention.

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