Battlefield 4

[soonermagic88]

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Yeah, when I played some TDM with you in BF3....that's why there was a trail of ammo crates behind you as you ran off to kill people.

and here i thought i was being accurate with my shooting

Oh now thats funny! Ha

[Kramer5150]

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Again it all starts and ends with killing. If your playing against a good team and you cant properly defend or take objectives by killing people you will most likely lose. Only way this doesnt happen is if the other team just flat out sucks

I'm not sure what you're not understanding here...but let me try this again.

I never said killing wasn't important,what I DID say was that it's not the most important factor in winning...and that's what's more important to me than k/d.

As I've already mentioned as well...I've seen numerous times the top players on the other teams have crazy high k/d's...but still get spanked...what this shows me is that regardless of how high someone's k/d is,if you're not playing the objective,you will lose.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree,as I'm tired of going in circles about this nonsense.

[soonermagic88]

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I'm not sure what you're not understanding here...but let me try this again.

I never said killing wasn't important,what I DID say was that it's not the most important factor in winning...and that's what's more important to me than k/d.

As I've already mentioned as well...I've seen numerous times the top players on the other teams have crazy high k/d's...but still get spanked...what this shows me is that regardless of how high someone's k/d is,if you're not playing the objective,you will lose.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree,as I'm tired of going in circles about this nonsense.

Not trying to start anything here, just need some help for my understanding. What exactly are tickets for in conquest (or any mode for that matter), or how do you lower the other teams? I understand that the more area's you control in conquest has something to do with it, but thats it. Is it getting kills, destroying vehicles, holding areas for a certain amount of time, combination of all of those?

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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Not trying to start anything here, just need some help for my understanding. What exactly are tickets for in conquest (or any mode for that matter), or how do you lower the other teams? I understand that the more area's you control in conquest has something to do with it, but thats it. Is it getting kills, destroying vehicles, holding areas for a certain amount of time, combination of all of those?

Correct holding objectives and kills lowers the enemies tickets.

But you know what . As long as my teammate is trying I'm ok. I've seen guys go 5-18 but have over 7000 points because they were spotting, getting flags, replenishing health/ammo , etc.... That let's me know he was fighting with me.

Now if he's 5-18 with 1500 points and no captures that's bad.

[soonermagic88]

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Correct holding objectives and kills lowers the enemies tickets.

But you know what . As long as my teammate is trying I'm ok. I've seen guys go 5-18 but have over 7000 points because they were spotting, getting flags, replenishing health/ammo , etc.... That let's me know he was fighting with me.

Now if he's 5-18 with 1500 points and no captures that's bad.

Thank you. After i posted that i thought, "i could have googled the answer" so i did. lol
I agree as long as the person is either getting kills OR getting points then im good with it, same goes for myself.
If he is getting kills, then the enemy is losing a ticket everytime he does. If he is contributing to teammates via re supplies and health drops, or getting a bunch of capture points then he is helping that way too.

[erickonasis]

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I'm not sure what you're not understanding here...but let me try this again.

I never said killing wasn't important,what I DID say was that it's not the most important factor in winning...and that's what's more important to me than k/d.

As I've already mentioned as well...I've seen numerous times the top players on the other teams have crazy high k/d's...but still get spanked...what this shows me is that regardless of how high someone's k/d is,if you're not playing the objective,you will lose.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree,as I'm tired of going in circles about this nonsense.

i got you...guess im one of the few that care about both....i dont like dying in any game but hey thats just me.

its not about bragging rights to a high K/D as was mentioned cause if thats the case i would never play because mine is not that high. My first shooter ever was Socom from PS2 and if you died you had to sit out the whole round and watch ohter people play until the next round. I guess thats where my mentality comes from

[13]

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i got you...guess im one of the few that care about both....i dont like dying in any game but hey thats just me.

its not about bragging rights to a high K/D as was mentioned cause if thats the case i would never play because mine is not that high. My first shooter ever was Socom from PS2 and if you died you had to sit out the whole round and watch ohter people play until the next round. I guess thats where my mentality comes from

I feel you.

Sometimes you have to put up high K/D's (not counting those distant campers) to even win a game because your stuck with crap teammates.

If you're going 5-25 but win thats cool, but if you only put up 1000 points then that's not.

Battlefield's so great because you don't have to put up a high K/D, but you also can't have a horrible K/D and not do anything else.

[NEOPARADIGM]

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My kdr is almost coming around a little. Having lots of 12-7, 17-12 and 18-14 type rounds now, probably right in that coveted "the average BF4 player" status, I'd say, and this after having been pretty much trash on 1943, BC2 and BF3 (talking under 0.6 kdr on all three, and who am I kidding, I'm still trash.)

So, that's my background, here's my take on kdr: you should really always be positive. There I said it. You owe it to yourself if no one else. Look, throwing yourself into the meat of the battle so you can go 6-16, throw a bunch of medpacks, cap a bunch of flags, feel like a team player, and maybe even finish top five or ten, is not inherently superior to a round where you're patient, resourceful, know your limits, and go something like 7-4, 4-0, or 6-1. Talking about doing things other than killing, yes, of course, do all the little things, do everything you can, be the ultimate grunt, PTFO, but work to go 6-3 or 10-8 while you're doing that.

There's no excuse for those 3-18 and 6-22 type rounds. Slow down. Play smarter. Know your skill-set. FLANK MORE. Go 5-4. Go 7-5. Go 8-6. Work from there. 11-8 and 12-7 are around the corner. Next thing you know you'll put up a 17-4 followed by a 22-6 and you'll wonder what the hell you were talking about saying kdr didn't matter.

[erickonasis]

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My kdr is almost coming around a little. Having lots of 12-7, 17-12 and 18-14 type rounds now, probably right in that coveted "the average BF4 player" status, I'd say, and this after having been pretty much trash on 1943, BC2 and BF3 (talking under 0.6 kdr on all three, and who am I kidding, I'm still trash.)

So, that's my background, here's my take on kdr: you should really always be positive. There I said it. You owe it to yourself if no one else. Look, throwing yourself into the meat of the battle so you can go 6-16, throw a bunch of medpacks, cap a bunch of flags, feel like a team player, and maybe even finish top five or ten, is not inherently superior to a round where you're patient, resourceful, know your limits, and go something like 7-4, 4-0, or 6-1. Talking about doing things other than killing, yes, of course, do all the little things, do everything you can, be the ultimate grunt, PTFO, but work to go 6-3 or 10-8 while you're doing that.

There's no excuse for those 3-18 and 6-22 type rounds. Slow down. Play smarter. Know your skill-set. FLANK MORE. Go 5-4. Go 7-5. Go 8-6. Work from there. 11-8 and 12-7 are around the corner. Next thing you know you'll put up a 17-4 followed by a 22-6 and you'll wonder what the hell you were talking about saying kdr didn't matter.

EXCELLENT post....

[ubernoob]

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I'd take a 6-15 player that has 10k for a score over a 7-1 player that has a 4k score any day of the week.

[Marino]

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My kdr is almost coming around a little. Having lots of 12-7, 17-12 and 18-14 type rounds now, probably right in that coveted "the average BF4 player" status, I'd say, and this after having been pretty much trash on 1943, BC2 and BF3 (talking under 0.6 kdr on all three, and who am I kidding, I'm still trash.)

So, that's my background, here's my take on kdr: you should really always be positive. There I said it. You owe it to yourself if no one else. Look, throwing yourself into the meat of the battle so you can go 6-16, throw a bunch of medpacks, cap a bunch of flags, feel like a team player, and maybe even finish top five or ten, is not inherently superior to a round where you're patient, resourceful, know your limits, and go something like 7-4, 4-0, or 6-1. Talking about doing things other than killing, yes, of course, do all the little things, do everything you can, be the ultimate grunt, PTFO, but work to go 6-3 or 10-8 while you're doing that.

There's no excuse for those 3-18 and 6-22 type rounds. Slow down. Play smarter. Know your skill-set. FLANK MORE. Go 5-4. Go 7-5. Go 8-6. Work from there. 11-8 and 12-7 are around the corner. Next thing you know you'll put up a 17-4 followed by a 22-6 and you'll wonder what the hell you were talking about saying kdr didn't matter.

I've gone 6-22 and been on the top of a winning team. Kills don't matter when you play the objective. I'd rather supply ammo or health than worry about getting a lot of kills. All I care about is winning and I think anyone who plays with me knows that's my main objective.

Well, that and being above RG.


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[Rensational14]

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Sadly TDM is the only mode where everyone PTFO

[bergie56]

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I played with and against a bunch of you lat night. We dominated when we played with you all and got dominated when they forced my buddy and I to the other team. That sucked as I'd get the drop one of you and then someone else from OS or with OS in their clan name would light me up. I think I'd prefer to play with not against you all going forward.

Feel free to add me: bergie56.

[Boltman]

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There's no excuse for those 3-18 and 6-22 type rounds. Slow down. Play smarter. Know your skill-set. FLANK MORE. Go 5-4. Go 7-5. Go 8-6. Work from there. 11-8 and 12-7 are around the corner. Next thing you know you'll put up a 17-4 followed by a 22-6 and you'll wonder what the hell you were talking about saying kdr didn't matter.

How ironic your username is.

I've seen this exact change with RG. There was a paradigm shift in RG's gameplay that I've seen take place over the last few weeks. I notice when he's patient and methodical he'll go positive.

Sorry for using you as an example RG, but his description brought you to mind.

As for me, my K/D isn't the end all be all because when we are all in party chat on a nightly basis (the regulars know who they are, as well as the alternates who have been jumping in a lot more lately!) and we are 8 deep, split up into two different squads it is all about communication and PTFO.

But I will say my K/D is steadily rising, It used to be around 1.80 because all I ever played early on was TDM. But now that I exclusively play Conquest in the beginning it went down to 1.08 or so, but now it's rising again (1.18 and still rising). Because we play so much Conquest collectively I started to learn the maps and the ebb & flow of what the map does and where the enemies tend to go.

My last conquest games of the night went...

13-12, 27-8, 22-9, 19-9, 17-7, 26-16, 18-18, 8-4, 19-10 and we went 6-3 as a team in those 9 games.

I play as Assault, Engineer, and Support and routinely switch up between them throughout the matches depending on who needs what as I hear it called out.

Someone asking for health and no one is near him? If I die I respawn on that player as Assault and give the man health. A chopper giving us problems over at flag A? I respawn as Engineer and shoot that bird down. It's fun switching up and helping where needed. Cowher yelling he needs ammo over at flag B? Sorry breh can't switch to Support on you, I'm working my Assault class right now.


Bout time eF 5ive gets a working mic, and Marino gets some kind of voice changing hormone treatment mic that manned him the f#@$ up lol!

[24ct]

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Yo anybody wanna add a player??

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