Destiny

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: Destiny

Tocco misses his Hawkmoon, that's all it is.

Standard protocol.

[Burns11]

Re: Destiny

When I do these bounties for invective and bad juju, hawkmoon will be the only exotic weapon I am missing

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

Re: Destiny

Burns, damn. I remember that feeling.
I just got a Hawkmoon from a Trials package and legendary engram... was shocked both times.

[KingTocco]

Re: Destiny

Hahaha this is just a damn fun and addicting game. And even though I had to get a new PS4 I got a sweet new magma red controller out of it and a year of PS plus because they had a nice deal.


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[RedSceptile]

Re: Destiny

So Weapons Tuning has a lot of good (TLW nerf, Thorn nerf, Hawkmoon nerf) and a lot of bad nerf especially on the PVE side (Black Hammer is basically useless now, Ice Breaker recharge rate, Gjallarhorn damage nerf, Shotguns doing less in PVE)

[N51_rob]

Re: Destiny

So Weapons Tuning has a lot of good (TLW nerf, Thorn nerf, Hawkmoon nerf) and a lot of bad nerf especially on the PVE side (Black Hammer is basically useless now, Ice Breaker recharge rate, Gjallarhorn damage nerf, Shotguns doing less in PVE)

The black hammer nerf is bull****...Wow, three rapid precision shots are no different than three slow precision shots. So no need to rush anymore.

[RedSceptile]

Re: Destiny

The black hammer nerf is bull****...Wow, three rapid precision shots are no different than three slow precision shots. So no need to rush anymore.

My black hammer is getting shoved back in the vault along with all my other trash. Thanks Bungo.

[DonkeyJote]

Re: Destiny

Did they do more to Black Hammer than take away its infinite ammo?

[N51_rob]

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Did they do more to Black Hammer than take away its infinite ammo?

That's basically. 18 rounds can be carried, but white nail procs from your ammo reserves.

[Burns11]

Re: Destiny

It carries 15 now, they absolutely destroyed Black Hammer. Sure you can chain 18 shots, but you'll run dry soooo quick. Even just using it now, missing just a couple of shots runs it dry so quick. Oh well.

Hopefully it all works, but it makes me nervous, this game can be such a chore when you aren't doing enough damage.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Destiny

Some of these nerfs are an abomination. They are not nerfing them for any reason other than dropping the op-ness of guns so that the new Taken King guns stand a chance against the OG guns. I see right through this **** Bungie.

All they had to do was nerf the exotic handcannons and buff assault rifles. Nerf some of those bull**** perks on shotguns and snipers and we would have been good.

Why they decided to wreck the PVE meta is beyond me. And LOL at the reasoning for the Gjallarhorn nerf. Thats the most bull**** thing Ive seen come from bungie in a minute. Because the LFG wanted Ghorn users, keep in mind Bungie HAS NO MATCHMAKING FOR LFG EVENTS, they decided to murder the gun? Oh please. How about you not make endgame bosses ****ing bullet sponges. Thats the only reason Ghorn is so coveted. It takes too long to kill your annoying bosses Bungie.


And dont get me started on the Black Hammer nerf. The Icebreaker is just as BS. Im heated man.

[DonkeyJote]

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I mean, weren't people just complaining that everyone basically used the same guns? Black Hammer still had more rounds than the high impact snipers available now, and you don't have to reload. It's still probably the best pve sniper. Gjallerhorn clearly needed a nerf; there was never any reason to use anything else; it was the thorn of pve.

[kingkilla56]

Re: Destiny

I mean, weren't people just complaining that everyone basically used the same guns? Black Hammer still had more rounds than the high impact snipers available now, and you don't have to reload. It's still probably the best pve sniper. Gjallerhorn clearly needed a nerf; there was never any reason to use anything else; it was the thorn of pve.

That was the whole gimmick with black hammer. They fundamentally destroyed the gun. It had infinite ammo if you hit your shots. Now its basically a no animation reload. Who gives a crap about just a no reload animation perk when you are fighting one of the dozen bullet sponge bosses in PVE? That gun is key to not wasting your life doing one PVE event.

Ghorn didnt need a nerf. Nobody was asking for a nerf to that gun. Not even those who didnt have it. It helped speed up the game. Them pretending the reason they nerfed it was because of the toxic LFG was a slap in the face. These are the guys who REFUSE to add matchmaking to endgame content, making the content exclusive rather than inclusive. The same thing they claim Ghorn was doing to the community. They said they designed it to be the god gun of the game. They nerfed it to quell the LFG community? Are you ****ing kidding me? Who is bungie to try and regulate a site/community that they have no hand in? Add matchmaking to your **** if you want everybody to have a chance to play content.

Nah this whole nerfing wave is just to give the trash Taken King guns a fighting chance against OG guns; guns that Bungie didnt realize they were making god tier. Its completely vapid. Im half shocked they didnt nerf firefly on Fatebringer. That really would have shown their BS for what it is.

Think about this, they said Ghorn made the PVE world exclusive right? Thorn destroyed PVP. Blackhammer wrecked PVE. Then why arent these balances going into effect next week? Why are they waiting for the Taken King to drop so poor guardians wont have Gjallarhorn blocking them from content now? Bungie is bull****ting out the *** with this rebalance man. Just call it what it is "We ****ed up making these OP guns and we know you will only use them when the expansion comes out, please keep playing our hamster wheel game as we nerf your favorite toys".

[Burns11]

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Any time you design guns around a cookie cutter template, you are going to have a "best" gun and people are going to use the "best" guns. Why would you not? Nerfing Gjallarhorn isn't going to make people use random guns (in fact it won't make people stop using Gjallarhorns, it will just take a small amount of extra time to burn down a boss because Gjallarhorn will still be the best rocket launcher and have the highest DPS).

No matter what gun you nerf now (Suros), another gun will come in and dominate instead (Thorn), and when you nerf that into oblivion something else will dominate this time around.

All they really needed to do was shave off the high spots (nerf thorn, small nerf to TLW), and fill in the low end (blanket AR buff, buff AR exotics not named Suros), and the game would have been fairly balanced in both PVP and PVE. Going at it with a sledge hammer is just going to cause chaos and ultimately cause more problems (remember last time they took a sledgehammer to the weapon balance they murdered ARs).

[DonkeyJote]

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As someone who didn't have a ghorn until how dropped, I actually agree with that nerf more than anything. Man, the difference between having that thing and not is way too big; it's like turning on easy mode. It's still the most powerful launcher, and will still be the most used.

As far as Black Hammer, it still does big damage, and no animation means a higher dps. Still has 18 rounds. It was better than either exotic sniper. It still pretty much is.

They had some OP weapons. They reigned in the two biggest offenders, which are still very powerful, but not so far so that they are unanimous choices for best in class. There can be a little situational use to them.