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  • mgoblue
    Go Wings!
    • Jul 2002
    • 25477

    #196
    Re: The Order: 1886

    Originally posted by kwebbvols2344
    I agree with both of you guys, I have no issue with the length of the game. I watched a few of the missions and the reason I am not buying until a price drop is:

    Spoiler
    This is a good point...how long the cutscenes are matter...how much of that 5 hours is actual gameplay.

    I'm a single player guy, and it'd be tough to get a 5 hour game for 60 bucks...

    I'll be interested to read reviews on this, the length debate is in a few articles I've read, so may impact future games as well.
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    • Picci
      MVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 4517

      #197
      Re: The Order: 1886

      A story driven game where you take on a character, or characters, and play out its missions with an secret ending.....
      I'm in.

      This is a win - win situation for me. If I love the story, I'll keep it. Else she's trade bait for the Show. Question is will I buy it for PS3 too?

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      • 42
        Hall Of Fame
        • Feb 2009
        • 8801

        #198
        The Order: 1886

        Re: Game Length

        Just look at Spec Ops: The Line - game was 5-6 hours and one of my favorites in 2012 (GOTY nominee for many)

        Doesn't take a 15+ hour game to tell a solid/compelling story/experience is my point. I also agree with the above that not every game needs MP (ugh).

        And as far as reviews go: if it's mediocre, so be it. If I enjoy it, that's all that matters anyway. I've never let reviews get in my way or sway me to avoid a game (I would've missed out on quite a few that I liked if I did).


        That is all.
        Last edited by 42; 02-16-2015, 12:21 PM.

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        • Fresh Tendrils
          Strike Hard and Fade Away
          • Jul 2002
          • 36131

          #199
          Re: The Order: 1886

          I just want the damn game in my hands.




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          • mgoblue
            Go Wings!
            • Jul 2002
            • 25477

            #200
            Re: The Order: 1886

            Originally posted by 42
            Re: Game Length

            Just look at Spec Ops: The Line - game was 5-6 hours and one of my favorites in 2012 (GOTY nominee for many)

            Doesn't take a 15+ hour game to tell a solid/compelling story/experience is my point. I also agree with the above that not every game needs MP (ugh).

            And as far as reviews go: if it's mediocre, so be it. If I enjoy it, that's all that matters anyway. I've never let reviews get in my way or sway me to avoid a game (I would've missed out on quite a few that I liked if I did).


            That is all.
            I don't disagree with you, but I then go more towards value for my money. If it's a great game that's only 8 hours long, then I'm not spending 60 bucks of my money on it. I'll get it for 10-15 on sale later on.

            I'd still enjoy the game if it's quality, just for a full price game I suppose I need more value there.
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            • aukevin
              War Eagle, Go Braves!
              • Dec 2002
              • 14700

              #201
              Re: The Order: 1886

              According to a guy at playstationtrophies.org there is no checklist of collectibles that you've found or have left to find. There is a chapter select to go back and find them, but you have no idea what chapter the collectibles are in and if you've already found it unless you take note of them yourself as you play (so keep a list trophy hunters). That's pretty lazy of the designers.

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              • m1ke_nyc
                10
                • Oct 2009
                • 3243

                #202
                Re: The Order: 1886

                Cant wait, one of my 2 most anticipated games of the year, the other being Quantum Break. 4 more days, gonna be at bestbuy as soon as they open so I can get home and play a little before heading to work Friday.
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                • Fresh Tendrils
                  Strike Hard and Fade Away
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 36131

                  #203
                  Re: The Order: 1886

                  Originally posted by aukevin
                  According to a guy at playstationtrophies.org there is no checklist of collectibles that you've found or have left to find. There is a chapter select to go back and find them, but you have no idea what chapter the collectibles are in and if you've already found it unless you take note of them yourself as you play (so keep a list trophy hunters). That's pretty lazy of the designers.
                  I ran into this recently with Uncharted 1 (yeah yeah Uncharted again). You'd think something like this would be hard to overlook.



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                  • aukevin
                    War Eagle, Go Braves!
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 14700

                    #204
                    Re: The Order: 1886

                    Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                    I ran into this recently with Uncharted 1 (yeah yeah Uncharted again). You'd think something like this would be hard to overlook.
                    I thought at least UC1 told you which collectibles you had gotten, isn't that correct? I don't understand the point of collecting something that you can't view afterwards.

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                    • 42
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 8801

                      #205
                      Re: The Order: 1886

                      Blog post from @BlondeNerd (Good Read)


                      People Are Losing Their **** Over The Order: 1886’s Length


                      Over the weekend someone uploaded gameplay videos of The Order, which showed off the game from start to finish, and when each video’s length is combined there are approximately five hours and 30 minutes of total gameplay. And because it is the internet, not to mention an industry full of folks that like to complain about experiences before they’ve actually experienced them, I’m seeing things like this:

                      “$60 for a 5-hour game?! You gotta be kidding me.”

                      “Will never buy from Ready at Dawn again. They’re thieves.”

                      “lol told u this game was gonna suck.”


                      ::takes a deep breath:: ::roughly exhales::

                      First, from what I’ve gathered, those completing the game in 5 or so hours are doing so intentionally. They’re not stopping to explore, take in the sights, or whatever else there is to do in The Order. I myself have yet to play the game, so I can’t speak on what additional content is offered, but it’s almost as if these peeps are doing a speedrun, for lack of a better term. So of cooooourse the “end timer” is going to be a bit on the short side.

                      Second, isn’t “value” relative? When you plunk down $60 for a game, are you expecting a certain length, or are you expecting a rad, enjoyable, interactive experience? I can’t answer that for you, but I’ll give you a personal example: For years I regularly paid $60 for every Call of Duty that released. Not because of the multiplayer (that I never even touched) but because I LOVE the campaigns, and it ain’t no lie that dem nuts are short. But while short, they provided a solid rush, and as I would watch the ending credits roll I always felt a sense of fulfillment. Like, “Yeah, that was awesome and I’d totally do it over again.”

                      On the flipside, I’ve dropped $60 for games that have lasted too long. Y’know, the ones that consist of 7-8 hours of story with an additional 20 hours of fluff that in no way compliments or contributes to the overall experience. This goes without saying, but in the end it was the 4-hour Call of Duty campaign that justified its price tag.

                      I’ve come to learn that the length of a game isn’t what matters; it’s the feels I take away as I retire it on my shelf. After all, time is valuable, not to mention limited. We ain’t got a lot of it, so the more efficiently we can be delivered an outstanding experience, the better.

                      So hey, if you’re one of the many waving around a pitchfork or two, try setting ‘em down. If, before this news, The Order: 1886 was a game that piqued your interest, still give it a shot. Challenge your preconceptions. And if you really hate the experience, sell it. But let’s try complaining about things after we’ve experienced them for ourselves, yeah? <3

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                      • LambertandHam
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 8008

                        #206
                        Re: The Order: 1886

                        Originally posted by mgoblue
                        I don't disagree with you, but I then go more towards value for my money. If it's a great game that's only 8 hours long, then I'm not spending 60 bucks of my money on it. I'll get it for 10-15 on sale later on.

                        I'd still enjoy the game if it's quality, just for a full price game I suppose I need more value there.
                        I do agree on that price bit. With so many games, I rarely buy any game at full price, unless it's something I really want(Souls series, Battlefront 3, etc.).
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                        • ajblithe20
                          Pro
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 845

                          #207
                          Re: The Order: 1886

                          I pay $60 for quality games that get me immersed in their world to enjoy. In this case, if the story is good I don't care how long it is. Just pre-ordered at gamestop.. can't wait for Friday

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                          • fistofrage
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13682

                            #208
                            Re: The Order: 1886

                            How long did they say Shadow of Mordor was supposed to be? It took me 60 hours to get everything. The story itself seems like it would be rather short if you just raced through it.

                            Hopefully the order is similar experience for me. That said, I am not going to spend over $40 for a video game again, so I'll wait for a price drop.
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                            • jeremym480
                              Speak it into existence
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 18198

                              #209
                              Re: The Order: 1886

                              I usually sell most of my games on eBay anyway, so honestly it cost me the same to play a game no matter whether I buy at release or wait on a price drop.
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                              • Skyboxer
                                Donny Baseball!
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 20302

                                #210
                                Re: The Order: 1886

                                Originally posted by LambertandHam
                                I do agree on that price bit. With so many games, I rarely buy any game at full price, unless it's something I really want(Souls series, Battlefront 3, etc.).
                                Same here. BB with GCU etc...gives games like this a chance to be bought eventually.
                                Don't really know for sure what the final verdict will be on the game but will be paying attention to OS members I trust. If pretty positive then I'll grab earlier than later.
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