Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

[Swamp Swagger]

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I don't care what you guys say 90% Scout players are sitting on their belly hidden away being nothing but a annoyance

After level 10 for the class when I do use it I use strictly iron sites, pistol a lot along with bunch of flares

It's really not hard to get a lot of kills with the class while being partly aggressive if you find the guns sweet spot


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[AUChase]

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I've seen and experienced much worse, but this short clip sums up my experience with Shotguns in BF1...

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[Swamp Swagger]

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I've seen and experienced much worse, but this short clip sums up my experience with Shotguns in BF1...



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In all fairness you were using a pretty cheap weapon as well lol

I could make clip after clip of shotguns taking 2-3 shots even at that range. It's game with huge huge maps. What do people want the shotguns to do? Only kill from butt sniffing range

Just my opinion I know many don't like them


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[Scary Larry]

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I don't believe for a second that Sniper/Scouts are playing the objective and capping flags. Have YET to see it and probably won't. What it is good for is padding your K/D and that's about it. Laying prone on a hillside..yeah..so lucky to have you on my squad. I do, however, love beating them to death with my shovel and bagging them when going against the opposite team.

Another thing I'm hating in this game, players using the AT Rocket as a primary weapon and not using them on tanks, which is the best use for them obviously. Appears the COD community is in this game in droves.

[AUChase]

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In all fairness you were using a pretty cheap weapon as well lol

I could make clip after clip of shotguns taking 2-3 shots even at that range. It's game with huge huge maps. What do people want the shotguns to do? Only kill from butt sniffing range

Just my opinion I know many don't like them


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I'm not even that mad about it.. I just thought it was a good summary of my experience with shotguns in the game... nothing more or less. I don't see what that has to do with me using the Hellregal. I've seen way more garbage kills from distance with shotgun (regardless of ammo) than I have any OP SMG.


FWIW I don't even have one service star with the Hellregal...


I think it's possible to hate firing 10+ rounds, watching them knock someone's face off, and them in turn fire one round from a shotgun (slug or not) and it take me down instantly without having some sort of unrealistic expectation from shotguns.


It's not taking away from my enjoyment of the game.

I don't believe for a second that Sniper/Scouts are playing the objective and capping flags. Have YET to see it and probably won't. What it is good for is padding your K/D and that's about it. Laying prone on a hillside..yeah..so lucky to have you on my squad. I do, however, love beating them to death with my shovel and bagging them when going against the opposite team.

Another thing I'm hating in this game, players using the AT Rocket as a primary weapon and not using them on tanks, which is the best use for them obviously. Appears the COD community is in this game in droves.

If you're talking specifically about the majority of random scouts.. sure you have a point, but I think you're generalizing too much. Of course the majority of people playing Scout are those lone wolfs sniping from the distance, but It's more than possible and fairly common for people to play Scout and PTFO.. especially with so many scout rifles that are effective at medium range without a scope on them.


As for AT Rockets.. I'm guilty of using them. I mostly do it on maps where clowns love to form up and camp out buildings or I use it on dudes riding around on horses

[Swamp Swagger]

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Only reason I brought up Hellregal is because you were kinda complaining shotguns are cheap yet you are using one of the cheaper weapons yourself.

Anyway what do you think the kill distance for shotguns should be then? The guy was 5 yards away from you

Shotguns are completely situational. The only time they are not completely useless in within 5-10 yards and even then they are a hit marker machine. People only seem to seen one side of the coin because they are mad the one time it kills from a distance they think is unfair

If there was a way to see death totals from a weapon I'm sure Shotguns would be nearly dead last for everybody


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[AUChase]

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Only reason I brought up Hellregal is because you were kinda complaining shotguns are cheap yet you are using one of the cheaper weapons yourself.

Anyway what do you think the kill distance for shotguns should be then? The guy was 5 yards away from you

Shotguns are completely situational. The only time they are not completely useless in within 5-10 yards and even then they are a hit marker machine. People only seem to seen one side of the coin because they are mad the one time it kills from a distance they think is unfair

If there was a way to see death totals from a weapon I'm sure Shotguns would be nearly dead last for everybody


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My point is that it's disheartening to see several 23mm rounds from a SMG bounce off someone and them still find a way to fire one round resulting in death as they walk away alive. At the very least it should be a 1-1 scenario even if someone instinctively pulled the trigger as they were dying/getting shot. Is that enough clarification I don't want a perfect game and this isn't some glaring issue like the USAS-12 AUTO was back in Battlefield 3 days.. I just think it needs a little tweaking.


I'm not here to argue the max effective range of shotguns.

[Swamp Swagger]

Battlefield 1 (PC, PS4, XBOX One)

In the video you only fired 6 bullets. The Hellregal has a max damage of 23 meaning you need at least 5 bullets to kill

You likely missed one or two bullets due to bullet spread and recoil.

Maybe try hardcore


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[azdawgpound]

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I think some things do need tweaked with weapons I can't tell u how many times I have unloaded half clip into a guy from m15 suppressive machine gun...Only to have guy run through and either stab me or pull out pistol and shoot one round and kill me.

Sorry but if u put 41 bullets into a guys chest he's gonna drop instantly..Not run through and stab or shoot u.

Same goes for getting shot in head can't say how many times I've shot a guy in head with more then 5 shots and they don't die again bs one shot should be instant death.

[RumbleCard]

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I don't believe for a second that Sniper/Scouts are playing the objective and capping flags. Have YET to see it and probably won't. What it is good for is padding your K/D and that's about it. Laying prone on a hillside..yeah..so lucky to have you on my squad. I do, however, love beating them to death with my shovel and bagging them when going against the opposite team.

Another thing I'm hating in this game, players using the AT Rocket as a primary weapon and not using them on tanks, which is the best use for them obviously. Appears the COD community is in this game in droves.

I think this is partly true. If no one's capping and there are too many snipers I can see where it looks like these guys aren't playing the objective. Balance of class is what's really import because I don't necessarily agree that they need to be capping flags for them to be considered playing the objective.

I've seen 2-3 snipers keeping a flag clear at a distance. This gives the assault and medic guys time and space to get in there. But if everyone's playing scout who's gonna cap? They're on the objective but need to work with the other classes. That's the one class where you can't go rogue.

Nothing better than making a run for a flag and seeing a handful of enemies going down because the guys behind you are clearing the squad out.

...additionally I'll use an A/T if I'm out of ammo or want to take down a wall or building.

[Swamp Swagger]

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I think some things do need tweaked with weapons I can't tell u how many times I have unloaded half clip into a guy from m15 suppressive machine gun...Only to have guy run through and either stab me or pull out pistol and shoot one round and kill me.



Sorry but if u put 41 bullets into a guys chest he's gonna drop instantly..Not run through and stab or shoot u.



Same goes for getting shot in head can't say how many times I've shot a guy in head with more then 5 shots and they don't die again bs one shot should be instant death.

Could you exaggerate any more? Geez lol




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[nemesis04]

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One thing I would like to see is if I am laying bullets into a guy doing a bayonet charge it should take them out of that mode. They are too invincible in that state. I do enjoy seeing people doing the charge and missing their intended target and running right past them, lol.

[Swamp Swagger]

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When I ever I do use the charge it misses even when I run right in to them half the time

So I just don't bother with it period. It is cheap when you shoot them so many times yet they win. Although it's hilarious to see them charging you while screaming and you drop them [emoji23]


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[Bravesfan47]

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Could you exaggerate any more? Geez lol




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While it's an exaggeration, the weapons across the board, from the rifles to the tank shells to the emplacement MGS all need a boost in power to some degree.

[Swamp Swagger]

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While it's an exaggeration, the weapons across the board, from the rifles to the tank shells to the emplacement MGS all need a boost in power to some degree.

Why?


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