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  • bcruise
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    • Mar 2004
    • 23274

    #46
    Re: Starfield

    Originally posted by KSUowls
    Does it matter? Yes
    Does it matter? No

    I'm sure that there are much more knowledgeable people than me, but some people will say that they don't notice a difference between 30 & 60. Personally I can tell that something looks different (better) at 60 fps even without a side by side comparison, and with that side by side then it becomes much more pronounced. However, we have been playing console games at 30 fps for years without problem, and so my guess is that most people will ultimately be fine with 30 fps even if 60 fps is better.

    At higher frames you get higher fidelity. This is present in both smoother action (less stuttering) as well as a more crisp and detailed image. So, if you have the option to then PC is going to offer the better experience, but I don't people will find the game unplayable on console if it reaches it's advertised 30 fps.

    I think this video does a pretty good job at displaying the differences between the two. You can see how much more detail is in the 60fps pictures, and you don't see as much screen jumping like when the Overwatch player was moving his target around the screen or spells casting in Diablo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zquClG3j9so
    Great post. Will just add that you may have to set the video resolution/FPS manually to see the difference - if both sides of the side-by-side comparisons look identical you are not playing the video at 60 FPS.

    I will say there's something to be said for the 30 FPS "cinematic" effect on a game like Battlefield (feeling like you're playing a war movie, that kind of thing), but I do find 60 FPS to be a better overall gameplay experience the majority of the time when it's possible. And I find it nearly essential for sports games especially. In this particular video I think the FPS difference stands out the most with Project Cars 2 due to all of the background flying by you as the car moves down the track.
    Last edited by bcruise; 06-15-2023, 03:17 AM.

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    • Picci
      MVP
      • Feb 2003
      • 4517

      #47
      Re: Starfield

      https://www.trustedreviews.com/expla...launch-4337498


      <b>Starfield minimum PC specs</b>
      <ul>
      <li>Operating System Windows 10 64-bit
      <li>Processor (Intel) Intel Core i7-6800K
      <li>Processor (AMD) AMD Ryzen 5 2600X
      <li>Graphics (Nvidia) NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti
      <li>Graphics (AMD) AMD Radeon RX 5700
      <li>Storage 125GB
      <li>RAM 16GB
      <li>Additional Notes SSD Required</li></ul>


      <b>Starfield recommended PC specs</b>
      <ul>
      <li>Operating System Windows 10 64-bit
      <li>Processor (Intel) Intel i5-10600K
      <li>Processor (AMD) AMD Ryzen 5 3600X
      <li>Graphics (Nvidia) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
      <li>Graphics (AMD) AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
      <li>Storage 125GB
      <li>RAM 16GB
      <li>Additional Notes SSD Required</li></ul>


      One of the features that sets it apart from No Man's Sky

      <b>Starfield – NEW Crew, Companions, & Romances Breakdown</b>


      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/R-ZITJtJfSw" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>
      Last edited by Picci; 06-16-2023, 07:27 AM. Reason: added new content link

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      • Money99
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2002
        • 12695

        #48
        Re: Starfield

        Originally posted by Bard
        I'm so happy I can have Gamepass on my new TV, lol.

        This Game could easily be a system seller. Everything I've seen and heard about it, wow.

        Sent from my SM-S908U1 using Tapatalk
        Wait, what? This game will be on Gamepass??
        Mother effer. Now I'm going to have to buy an XB1.
        Thanks Trudeau!!!

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        • Bard
          YouTube: NHBard
          • Oct 2010
          • 7803

          #49
          Re: Starfield

          Originally posted by Money99
          Wait, what? This game will be on Gamepass??

          Mother effer. Now I'm going to have to buy an XB1.

          Thanks Trudeau!!!
          Yessir!

          Sent from my SM-S908U1 using Tapatalk
          Come hang with me on YouTube! I stream/make videos on a variety of games from sports, to action, to adventure!


          https://youtube.com/@nhbard?si=kOpLZu8evi-aFsnG

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          • peter42O
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            • May 2018
            • 1991

            #50
            Re: Starfield

            Before the Direct - Starfield was a $10 monthly rental via Game Pass.

            After the Direct - Starfield is now a $100 digital premium edition purchase because holy crap!!! The 45 minute Direct 100% sold me on everything in the game and this has become my #1 most anticipated game for the rest of 2023 and despite not being a Bethesda Game Studios fan, the Direct simply won me over. Can't freaking wait!!!

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            • NYJin2011tm
              MVP
              • Oct 2011
              • 2760

              #51
              Re: Starfield

              Wow! Game looks amazing! Might be best game graphically I’ve seen to date.

              PC it is for me.

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              • mgoblue
                Go Wings!
                • Jul 2002
                • 25477

                #52
                Re: Starfield

                Originally posted by peter42O
                Before the Direct - Starfield was a $10 monthly rental via Game Pass.

                After the Direct - Starfield is now a $100 digital premium edition purchase because holy crap!!! The 45 minute Direct 100% sold me on everything in the game and this has become my #1 most anticipated game for the rest of 2023 and despite not being a Bethesda Game Studios fan, the Direct simply won me over. Can't freaking wait!!!

                You can pay 31 with game pass discount for premium upgrade. I’m questioning if the DOC and 5 days are worth 31 but probably gonna do it


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                • Picci
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4517

                  #53
                  Re: Starfield

                  Originally posted by PPerfect_CJ
                  Just bought a Series X for this game. I hope I don't end up hating myself. Lmao!

                  Me too. My first Xbox since the 360. Yeah, raise your hands for those who bought an xbox for this game

                  <iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/jzpLjAx4pAsP6" width="480" height="313" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/yes-hey-raising-hand-jzpLjAx4pAsP6">via GIPHY</a></p>

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                  • Picci
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                    • Feb 2003
                    • 4517

                    #54
                    Re: Starfield

                    This might not be popular;

                    No Nvidia RTX for Starfield as AMD and Bethesda announce exclusive PC partnership

                    Bethesda and AMD have confirmed that they are partnering up to bring various multi-threaded optimisations and FSR 2 to sci-fi RPG Starfield, which launches in a couple of months.

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                    • KSUowls
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5884

                      #55
                      Re: Starfield

                      Originally posted by Picci
                      This might not be popular;

                      No Nvidia RTX for Starfield as AMD and Bethesda announce exclusive PC partnership

                      https://www.altchar.com/game-news/no...p-ab2xe4f54iyI
                      Ouch. I do wonder if the sheer amount of system resources this game is going to require would have made ray tracing unusable for the vast majority of PC players anyway, but it's still disappointing for those of us who do have 4090's. Hopefully it will be supported in later patches after they have worked out many of the inevitable launch bugs.

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                      • Picci
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 4517

                        #56
                        Re: Starfield

                        Originally posted by KSUowls
                        Ouch. I do wonder if the sheer amount of system resources this game is going to require would have made ray tracing unusable for the vast majority of PC players anyway, but it's still disappointing for those of us who do have 4090's. Hopefully it will be supported in later patches after they have worked out many of the inevitable launch bugs.


                        I think its a brilliantly evil plan by MS. This partnership helps sell more consoles.

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                        • Keirik
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                          • Mar 2003
                          • 3770

                          #57
                          Re: Starfield

                          Less than a month to go !
                          Yankees, Manchester United, Chicago Bears, New York Rangers

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                          • Picci
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4517

                            #58
                            Re: Starfield

                            Same anticipation growing within me. I play NMS in my current gaming que, so there's no doubt that I'll be comparing the two experiences. Starfield's Story trailer helped seal the deal with me during its presentation. Didn't notice it posted earlier but for those who want to relieve it and get captivated again

                            Starfield - Story Trailer | Xbox Games Showcase 2023


                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z6nMITUbEJQ" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>


                            I'm also pre-ordering the Premium Edition instead of riding it on Game Pass or getting the Standard Edition. Here's a quick breakdown.



                            <b>Starfield™ Standard Edition
                            Included with Game Pass</b>

                            Spoiler



                            <b>Starfield Premium Edition box shot
                            Starfield™ Digital Premium Edition</b>

                            Spoiler




                            <b><big>For those who can't get enough and want to know more.</b></big>
                            Will Shen (Lead Quest Designer) & Emil Pagliarulo (Lead Game Designer) wiil be doing a Q&A on Discord Aug 16 @ 1PM EST

                            Spoiler

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                            • peter42O
                              MVP
                              • May 2018
                              • 1991

                              #59
                              Re: Starfield

                              I also pre-ordered the Premium Edition. Hyped for September 1st!!!

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                              • ClassActFan
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 388

                                #60
                                Re: Starfield

                                I'm thinking I'll go ahead and buy the $31 upgrade to play five days early. I have some family coming in on Labor Day weekend, but I'm thinking about delving deep within myself to go back to my teenage days by staying up late to play the game because my excitement has peaked.

                                I finally watched the Starfield Direct (I know, I know). I couldn't during the day it aired because I was busy and got sidetracked. It looks more amazing than I expected it to. As much as I wish it was 60fps on the Series X, I understand their reasons for sticking with 30fps. I can't wait.

                                Going to be playing Madden 24, Rocket League and a little bit of State of Decay 2 to hold me over until then.

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