Six Days in Fallujah

[hooder18]

Game looks pretty intense:

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/03/six_days_in_fallujah_debuts_intense_first_gameplay_trailer?fbclid=IwAR1pyX6XVn0ck5WW1NUrQA2sTJdBjJMSlO9O5llPYDgAOb_KtGmwG2uU-V0

[allBthere]

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def has potential "playable documentary" was an interesting description that they are going for.

[Picci]

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The narrative and description of the experiences are from our US military men and woman who were there in the front-lines. It's produced and published by Victura and developed by Highwire Games, which is led by many of the original Halo and Destiny leadership. I'll help support them and try it out when it comes out later this year.

This may help in the intrigue of the game by having "procedural architecture" as they call it for changing the map each time you die. I know its been done before but this takes this type of game to a different level. IMO


<b>Procedural Architecture in Six Days in Fallujah</b>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctYqWP6ZOIg

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[PVarck31]

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This game is actually coming out?

I remember it being canceled way back when because of a lot of controversy about the story.

I'll definitely be checking it out.

[zello144]

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This game is actually coming out?

I remember it being canceled way back when because of a lot of controversy about the story.

It still seems to be getting controversy from a lot of video game journalists.

I'm just happy that it's finally going to come out.

[PVarck31]

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It still seems to be getting controversy from a lot of video game journalists.

I'm just happy that it's finally going to come out.

Of course it is. I hope they tune it out and still release the game. Maybe I'm a cold hearted *******. But I've had interest in this game since it was first announced years and years ago.

[Hooe]

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It still seems to be getting controversy from a lot of video game journalists.

The game is correctly receiving heavy criticism for misrepresenting the actual events of the Second Battle of Fallujah, which included the use of white phosphorus as an offensive weapon against insurgents, literally a violation of the Geneva Convention and a war crime. It doesn't at all address the motivations for the United States military and the coalition of the willing sending armed forces to Iraq, which turned out to be politically-motivated lies. It "others" innocent Iraqi citizens and Muslims by reducing them to procedurally-generated props. And all this for what, a Call Of Duty style quick-time-to-kill procedurally-generated first-person shooter?

I don't care if the game comes out or not, the developer is free to build and release whatever it wants, just as I'm free to never buy it. At the same time, let's call a spade a spade. At best, this game is leveraging history to lend authenticity to its gameplay but doesn't get the facts correct, which is irresponsible and the developer should have to answer tough questions about. At worst, this game is propaganda supporting the United States military and a deliberate white-washing of atrocities that our armed forces committed abroad.

[canes21]

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You practically just described every single piece of media about any war. They all bend the truth for a variety of purposes. There is a reason the saying "History is written by the victors" exists. I doubt there is a single historical record of anything that is 100% accurate as to what happened. Even events that have happened in our lifetimes are skewed when retold because people are always going to be biased whether intentional or not.

The game looks like it has plenty of potential and I am anxious to see how much replayability it actually has with the procedural tech they are using. I'm not interested in the game because I expected it to be 100% accurate to the events of the battle just like I never go into playing Call of Duty or any other shooter and think they are portraying their wars 100% accurately just like Saving Private Ryan isn't any worse of a movie to me because it has a plethora of inaccuracies throughout every scene just about.

We simply live in an era where everyone wants to find controversy in everything for whatever reason. If someone simply disagrees with someone or something they will go out of their way to find anything they can to try and bring that thing/person down a notch if they can.

[Picci]

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Any serviceman who had to take the command of having to go thru each house, door-to-door, room-to-room, and wants to tell his/her story to a video game developer and get any proceeds from the game, I have no problems with and to go for it. I can't imagine their feelings when such an order was even given to them..

[KmK]

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The game is correctly receiving heavy criticism for misrepresenting the actual events of the Second Battle of Fallujah, which included the use of white phosphorus as an offensive weapon against insurgents, literally a violation of the Geneva Convention and a war crime. It doesn't at all address the motivations for the United States military and the coalition of the willing sending armed forces to Iraq, which turned out to be politically-motivated lies. It "others" innocent Iraqi citizens and Muslims by reducing them to procedurally-generated props. And all this for what, a Call Of Duty style quick-time-to-kill procedurally-generated first-person shooter?

I don't care if the game comes out or not, the developer is free to build and release whatever it wants, just as I'm free to never buy it. At the same time, let's call a spade a spade. At best, this game is leveraging history to lend authenticity to its gameplay but doesn't get the facts correct, which is irresponsible and the developer should have to answer tough questions about. At worst, this game is propaganda supporting the United States military and a deliberate white-washing of atrocities that our armed forces committed abroad.

Could of just said you hate America.

You don’t think we would be in their shoes if they had the capabilities?

Dog eat dog world and you sound pretty damn ungrateful.

[Itsma806]

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Hooe sounds like someone who lives in America but couldn't build up the courage to serve his/her country.

It's a video game it doesnt have to be true to life and I doubt Hooe knows anything about what really went on in Iraq

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[AUChase]

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One of my favorite bands has a song with the line "when murder is justice then martyrs are made" and I think that applies to Iraq, but that doesn't change that a lot of people were still in these extreme life or death/intense situations that are worth telling in a story and that is what video games are right? This game may reflect poorly on the role of the military in Iraq too depending on what stories are told or shown.

To me it's really just a video game though. Call of Duty also had you playing an active shooter in an airport terminal, but there's no recruitment office for that so I don't really see these games as military propaganda either. They recruit kids now with financial security, GI bill, VA home loan, etc.

I think you guys are unfairly labeling Hooe. He just has a different opinion and he's entitled to have it. There's no need in pretending you love America any more because your opinion of Bush or the war in Iraq is different. Just my .02 cents from someone who was in the military.

[allBthere]

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One of my favorite bands has a song with the line "when murder is justice then martyrs are made" and I think that applies to Iraq, but that doesn't change that a lot of people were still in these extreme life or death/intense situations that are worth telling in a story and that is what video games are right? This game may reflect poorly on the role of the military in Iraq too depending on what stories are told or shown.

To me it's really just a video game though. Call of Duty also had you playing an active shooter in an airport terminal, but there's no recruitment office for that so I don't really see these games as military propaganda either. They recruit kids now with financial security, GI bill, VA home loan, etc.

I think you guys are unfairly labeling Hooe. He just has a different opinion and he's entitled to have it. There's no need in pretending you love America any more because your opinion of Bush or the war in Iraq is different. Just my .02 cents from someone who was in the military.

100% well said man - I really appreciate when people share this type of perspective which is becoming lost. in life their is nuance, there are grey areas and there are differing perspectives. Too much today is us or them, left or right and not much in the middle.

[AUChase]

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100% well said man - I really appreciate when people share this type of perspective which is becoming lost. in life their is nuance, there are grey areas and there are differing perspectives. Too much today is us or them, left or right and not much in the middle.

Looking at things through a narrow lens is something I've been guilty of myself and I have been trying to work on that. I think we all need that reminder from time to time. When push comes to shove most people we disagree with are still good people but just have a different perspective.

On a message board it's even harder because you don't get tone of voice with the words.

[Picci]

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I understand we all have our opinions, and so do I. As a military vet, I found his opinions quite insulting and denigrating.

But it's kool. It's alright.