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  • NovaStar
    Banned
    • Aug 2002
    • 3561

    #1

    Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

    Electronic Arts Gets Hammered After Dismal Earnings
    Posted May 4, 2005, 10:19 AM ET by Vladimir Cole
    Related entries: Culture, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Portable, Xbox, Xbox 2



    Electronic Arts didn’t sell as many games as investors expected it to and now the stock is taking a beating. Shares of EA have fallen nearly 10% from yesterday’s market close because investors are disappointed that EA earned just 2 cents per share in the quarter ended March 31 vs. year-before earnings of 29 cents per share.

    Most of the news coverage focuses on two key issues: first, EA’s earnings fell. It just didn’t sell enough games to rake in the big bucks this quarter. MarketWatch notes that the entire games industry will be on tenterhooks during this big transition year as older consoles are retired and the marketing hype for the Xbox 360, PS3 and Revolution begins to escalate. In transition years like this one, game enthusiasts tend to scale back purchases of current-console products in order to start saving for next-generation consoles and games.

    EA certainly appears to be sensitive to increased consumer reluctance to buy. The company plans to release just 8 games this quarter; last year EA released 11 games in the same quarter. This is a trend that we should see repeated across all publishers.




    The second issue is that EA’s costs of production rose. EA’s management has tried to portray the rising costs as necessary to maintain the company’s lead in the industry. “We’re trying to balance our short-term results with long-term investments,” EA CFO Warren Jenson told TheStreet.com.

    All the lawsuits certainly don’t help that bottom line, though, and it’s hard to interpret the $21 million that EA spent on an employment-related lawsuit as an investment in the future.

    It’s not all bad news for game companies, though. Sony’s PSP may end up having a banner year as a result of consumer uncertainty and the reduction in PS2, Xbox and GameCube releases, according to MarketWatch. “The transition should be further eased by some recent products, such as the PlayStation Portable. For the next seven to eight months, developers can focus on launching games for this device while they build their next-generation portfolio.”
    Last edited by NovaStar; 05-04-2005, 04:27 PM.
  • Jon22
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 2514

    #2
    Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

    Take 2 its time to buy enough shares to use there licenses.

    Get to work spending

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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #3
      Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

      They'll bounce back big in the fall when all the versions of Madden hit, plus all the next-gen games. I doubt they are too worried
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      • HMcCoy
        All Star
        • Jan 2003
        • 8212

        #4
        Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

        Here's a tip EA...More money on better artists and development teams, less money on hot rappers.
        Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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        • AtXj
          Glory, Glory, Man United!
          • Jul 2004
          • 882

          #5
          Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

          Originally posted by NovaStar
          Electronic Arts Gets Hammered After Dismal Earnings
          Posted May 4, 2005, 10:19 AM ET by Vladimir Cole
          Related entries: Culture, PlayStation 2, PlayStation 3, Portable, Xbox, Xbox 2



          Electronic Arts didn’t sell as many games as investors expected it to and now the stock is taking a beating. Shares of EA have fallen nearly 10% from yesterday’s market close because investors are disappointed that EA earned just 2 cents per share in the quarter ended March 31 vs. year-before earnings of 29 cents per share.

          Most of the news coverage focuses on two key issues: first, EA’s earnings fell. It just didn’t sell enough games to rake in the big bucks this quarter. MarketWatch notes that the entire games industry will be on tenterhooks during this big transition year as older consoles are retired and the marketing hype for the Xbox 360, PS3 and Revolution begins to escalate. In transition years like this one, game enthusiasts tend to scale back purchases of current-console products in order to start saving for next-generation consoles and games.

          EA certainly appears to be sensitive to increased consumer reluctance to buy. The company plans to release just 8 games this quarter; last year EA released 11 games in the same quarter. This is a trend that we should see repeated across all publishers.




          The second issue is that EA’s costs of production rose. EA’s management has tried to portray the rising costs as necessary to maintain the company’s lead in the industry. “We’re trying to balance our short-term results with long-term investments,” EA CFO Warren Jenson told TheStreet.com.

          All the lawsuits certainly don’t help that bottom line, though, and it’s hard to interpret the $21 million that EA spent on an employment-related lawsuit as an investment in the future.

          It’s not all bad news for game companies, though. Sony’s PSP may end up having a banner year as a result of consumer uncertainty and the reduction in PS2, Xbox and GameCube releases, according to MarketWatch. “The transition should be further eased by some recent products, such as the PlayStation Portable. For the next seven to eight months, developers can focus on launching games for this device while they build their next-generation portfolio.”

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          • fistofrage
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2002
            • 13682

            #6
            Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

            Originally posted by ODogg
            They'll bounce back big in the fall when all the versions of Madden hit, plus all the next-gen games. I doubt they are too worried
            I am sure they are VERY worried....Try explaining a 10% loss per share to the Board and the investors. If you don't think someone's balls are being chopped off as we speak, you're crazy. EA isn't in it to make games, they are in it to make money and watching the stock price plummet has made some people's life very miserable at EA.
            Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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            • ODogg
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2003
              • 37953

              #7
              Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

              Originally posted by fistofrage
              I am sure they are VERY worried....Try explaining a 10% loss per share to the Board and the investors. If you don't think someone's balls are being chopped off as we speak, you're crazy. EA isn't in it to make games, they are in it to make money and watching the stock price plummet has made some people's life very miserable at EA.
              Like I said man, EA Sports are about to milk their cash cow aka Madden. They know that is huge. You are right though in the fact that i'm sure some people have lost their jobs over there. However, your comment that "EA isn't in it to make games, they are in it to make money" is a somewhat obvious point. That is why all companies who are in the videogame business are in it, to make money.
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              • vinny
                MVP
                • Jun 2004
                • 2738

                #8
                Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                Originally posted by HMcCoy
                Here's a tip EA...More money on better artists and development teams, less money on hot rappers.
                Amen

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                • jmood88
                  Sean Payton: Retribution
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 34639

                  #9
                  Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                  Originally posted by ODogg
                  Like I said man, EA Sports are about to milk their cash cow aka Madden. They know that is huge. You are right though in the fact that i'm sure some people have lost their jobs over there. However, your comment that "EA isn't in it to make games, they are in it to make money" is a somewhat obvious point. That is why all companies who are in the videogame business are in it, to make money.
                  That's not true. They realize that they can make money off of their talent but there are people who actually enjoy making games and they enjoy making the best games they could make.
                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                  If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                  • ODogg
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 37953

                    #10
                    Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                    Originally posted by jmood88
                    That's not true. They realize that they can make money off of their talent but there are people who actually enjoy making games and they enjoy making the best games they could make.
                    And how would you know that EA programmers do not also enjoy making their games just like any other companys programmers?
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                    • Knight165
                      *ll St*r
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 24964

                      #11
                      Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                      Originally posted by ODogg
                      Like I said man, EA Sports are about to milk their cash cow aka Madden. They know that is huge. You are right though in the fact that i'm sure some people have lost their jobs over there. However, your comment that "EA isn't in it to make games, they are in it to make money" is a somewhat obvious point. That is why all companies who are in the videogame business are in it, to make money.

                      Madden may HAVE been the "cash cow" in the past...but with the great deal they just signed to gobble up the NFL it may have just become and albatross. That's a big nut they took on for that franchise...and how many more Madden games do they really expect to sell by locking out the competition?

                      EA could be in a little trouble. They are a giant...but like I stated months ago, remember what happened to the former PC giant Sierra. Those guys looked unstoppable in the early '90's.


                      M.K.
                      Knight165
                      All gave some. Some gave all. 343

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #12
                        Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                        Originally posted by ODogg
                        And how would you know that EA programmers do not also enjoy making their games just like any other companys programmers?
                        It's pretty obvious when they put all the gimmicks that they put in their games and how they seemingly disregard everything that the fans have wanted for years.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • fistofrage
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 13682

                          #13
                          Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          And how would you know that EA programmers do not also enjoy making their games just like any other companys programmers?
                          Weren't EA programmers just about ready to file a class action lawsuit for deplorable working conditions, being made to work 70+ hours a week, etc.
                          Chalepa Ta Kala.....

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                          • luv_mist
                            Older
                            • May 2004
                            • 9596

                            #14
                            Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                            Originally posted by fistofrage
                            Weren't EA programmers just about ready to file a class action lawsuit for deplorable working conditions, being made to work 70+ hours a week, etc.
                            Minus the 70+ money....yeah. It was a big thing like a few months ago. Kind of when they locked up that deal or were in talking about it or some garbage. Somehow, I think that EA has gotten too big for their bridges. It kind of serves them right for being so greedy. Should take the best approach at keeping it simple. They even laid off a few people didn't they? Earlier this year as a matter of fact. I kind of feel bad for them and the NFL for taking the foolish way and making that exclusive deal. One question from me is how much do they expect to earn from Madden to get out of this minor trouble that their in? Yeah, it's a good game but how many employees will it pay in the long run? Ironically, notice how the article speaks only of EA being hit hard from the next-gen console (NGC) hype. Maybe it wasn't the NGC that cause EA to miss out on their money.

                            Originally posted by Jon22
                            Take 2 its time to buy enough shares to use there licenses.

                            Get to work spending
                            That would be a good one. Didn't EA have a good amount of UBISOFT's stock in their possession? I wonder if they sold it off or not. Anyone have an idea? Oh my, Oh my, Oh my, they're getting No Love
                            Last edited by luv_mist; 05-06-2005, 03:11 PM.

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                            • luv_mist
                              Older
                              • May 2004
                              • 9596

                              #15
                              Re: Couldn't Have Happened to a Nicer Company

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              Madden may HAVE been the "cash cow" in the past...but with the great deal they just signed to gobble up the NFL it may have just become and albatross. That's a big nut they took on for that franchise...and how many more Madden games do they really expect to sell by locking out the competition?

                              EA could be in a little trouble. They are a giant...but like I stated months ago, remember what happened to the former PC giant Sierra. Those guys looked unstoppable in the early '90's.


                              M.K.
                              Knight165
                              Sierra was a powerhouse back then too? I seriously never saw that coming. I remember they made a good amount of PC games but I never really got into them. Kind of thought they got extinct or evaporated in the market. What games made them big back then anyhow? Only game I have of theirs is Cyberstorm.

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