http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html
I cant exactly remember who on OS put me up on this thoery. When I first read it, I actually learned a thing or two. I've shown this article to more than a few females and at first glance many have dismissed it as being not true but quickly realized that after more thorough reading and having a male perspective thrown their way, that some of it is actually true. The charts that the writer provides seems to be what the women I've shown mostly disagree with which I can understand since most women do have diffrent tastes and desires when it comes to men so that part really cant be generalized. But they do understand the concept of the actual Ladder Theory after futher explaination.
Even though they do understand it they wont admit to actually having some type of ranking system when it comes to the men they know and what I tried hard to explain to them is that they do have a ranking system in place, its just used unconciously whereas a guy completely and knowingly ranks his women in specific order. The one thing that they all disagree on and its been beaten to death with the folks I know, is that all of a females male friends want to ultimately get them in the sack at some point in time. The females I know debated that they have plenty of male friends and not all of them want to sleep with them. (A consistent and typical response) Whereas it is noted in the theory that if a guy doesn't want to sleep with you, he's ethier not attracted to you or he's playing for the other team.
So what they fail to understand is that the majority of males friends they do have are just waiting and waiting for that moment where their services may be needed. They wont jepordize the relationship and flatout tell you themselves but simply 'play their role' until that special day comes. If it ever comes. So in essence, both parties are wasting eachothers time because more than likely, that guy has a secret agenda and the female thinks she has a special friend. So the female needs to re-examine that relationship and find out what its really about. They'd be in for a suprise. Unfortunately, women seem to value friendships moreso than guys so the women I've talked to wont go to such measures to prove the theory true.
While I dont exactly agree with everything the writer said in his piece, I found 1 area to be particularly interesting. Its about the role of a "cuddle bitch". I hate to admit but I've been one before. I was so intimately close to this one particular female in my teen years that I swore that I was gonna eventually tap dat off one day. Unfortunately for me, the girl thought otherwise. Before I read this piece I always wondered why me and that girl never hooked up. Seeing as we did just about everything a regular couple would do....besides kiss and ****. Yes, I got to grope, see her half naked, massage, rub down and all the extra things a real boyfriend does except it never ever went pass that point.
The cuddle bitch explaination shed light on it in ways I never thought imaginable. It all made sense now. I was simply being used like a freakin' douche to fufill whatever lack of intimacy that was in her 'real' relationship. And yes, I knew her boyfriend. He was a prick and I thought for a second that I had a chance but obviously, he had all the right qualitys that our more typical females look for in a man. Like showing a lack of concern, love and ignoring her at every opportunity. This keeps him a challenge and thats the one thing that 'some' women love when it comes to courting. I've since learned to adapt some of these qualities in my relationships. (B4 the Ladder Theory) Not exactly the ones I described but just learning to be more of a challenge. You dont have to exactly ignore a potential female, just indirectly show her that you're interested but you have other options. This here will create the sense that you're more of a better catch than she is. She should try to work for your attention. While this doesn't work in all cases, its beneficial in more way than you can imagine.
Anyways, dont want to turn this into a class because I'm less than qualified at picking up the opposite sex. I'm still learning as I go along but back to the topic of cuddle bitches. I recently discovered that my gf somewhat has her own. She told me about some guy maybe 4 months into our relationship. She called him a "family friend". While I discovered he is actually a family friend, he really has this secret agenda to get with my girl and its been going on for the last 5 years. While she denies this claim, it only took 1 single confrontation with this guy to come to this realization. She says he's just a really good friend, I say this guy is waiting his turn and he's gonna keep waiting till he ultimately gets what he desires. Sad but true.
First time I meet him, he plays like he's the surragate father. He says "you know she's been my friend for a long time. She talks to me about everything and she told me about you already, etc, etc". "I just wanted to meet you and see what you really about". Then this guy proceeds to ask me "You and her sleeping together"? It all just hit me at the point. This guy wants to nail my girl and he already doesn't like me. Well if she tells him everything, I'm sure she's told him that and I know its killing him inside. MWUhahah. I finnally say "Yea" and he proceeds to tell me that he already knows. WTF? Why even ask? Meh..he's just curious and wants the awful truth to come from my mouth. Anyway, he then pretends to like me and says I'm "cool" even though our little chit-chat hasn't stretched past nothingness.
Eventually I showed my gf this Ladder Theory and I made it a point to emphasize cuddle bitches and I told her this must be your "family friend". At first she denied it but then realized that its all so true. I feel sorry for the dude, I want to tell him that she's really not that interested in you but that cant really come from my mouth. I've been where he's at but not that bad. I did'nt waste 5 years of my life pursuing a girl that really did'nt like me. More like a summer. She admits that the guy would do damn near anything for her and actually made fun of that fact. She is'nt exactly using him since she's been with me. I dont want my girl having any cuddle bitches, if I'm not providing whatever intimacy, friendship or whatever you need, then you need to let me know or find somebody else. But this guy, he's a digrace to the guy code. He's starting to pop up at her crib at random times of the night with lies that he's locked out the crib. He purposely leaves things over her crib so he can have an excuse to pop back up. When he calls her and she says she's with me, I can hear the silence on the phone. Its a damn shame.
What do you think I should do with the cuddle bitch? Should I let my girl handle that or should I step in?
Anyway, discuss the greatness that is the Ladder Theory and thanks to whomever put me on to it. Its provided some very interesting conversation.
I cant exactly remember who on OS put me up on this thoery. When I first read it, I actually learned a thing or two. I've shown this article to more than a few females and at first glance many have dismissed it as being not true but quickly realized that after more thorough reading and having a male perspective thrown their way, that some of it is actually true. The charts that the writer provides seems to be what the women I've shown mostly disagree with which I can understand since most women do have diffrent tastes and desires when it comes to men so that part really cant be generalized. But they do understand the concept of the actual Ladder Theory after futher explaination.
Even though they do understand it they wont admit to actually having some type of ranking system when it comes to the men they know and what I tried hard to explain to them is that they do have a ranking system in place, its just used unconciously whereas a guy completely and knowingly ranks his women in specific order. The one thing that they all disagree on and its been beaten to death with the folks I know, is that all of a females male friends want to ultimately get them in the sack at some point in time. The females I know debated that they have plenty of male friends and not all of them want to sleep with them. (A consistent and typical response) Whereas it is noted in the theory that if a guy doesn't want to sleep with you, he's ethier not attracted to you or he's playing for the other team.
So what they fail to understand is that the majority of males friends they do have are just waiting and waiting for that moment where their services may be needed. They wont jepordize the relationship and flatout tell you themselves but simply 'play their role' until that special day comes. If it ever comes. So in essence, both parties are wasting eachothers time because more than likely, that guy has a secret agenda and the female thinks she has a special friend. So the female needs to re-examine that relationship and find out what its really about. They'd be in for a suprise. Unfortunately, women seem to value friendships moreso than guys so the women I've talked to wont go to such measures to prove the theory true.
While I dont exactly agree with everything the writer said in his piece, I found 1 area to be particularly interesting. Its about the role of a "cuddle bitch". I hate to admit but I've been one before. I was so intimately close to this one particular female in my teen years that I swore that I was gonna eventually tap dat off one day. Unfortunately for me, the girl thought otherwise. Before I read this piece I always wondered why me and that girl never hooked up. Seeing as we did just about everything a regular couple would do....besides kiss and ****. Yes, I got to grope, see her half naked, massage, rub down and all the extra things a real boyfriend does except it never ever went pass that point.
The cuddle bitch explaination shed light on it in ways I never thought imaginable. It all made sense now. I was simply being used like a freakin' douche to fufill whatever lack of intimacy that was in her 'real' relationship. And yes, I knew her boyfriend. He was a prick and I thought for a second that I had a chance but obviously, he had all the right qualitys that our more typical females look for in a man. Like showing a lack of concern, love and ignoring her at every opportunity. This keeps him a challenge and thats the one thing that 'some' women love when it comes to courting. I've since learned to adapt some of these qualities in my relationships. (B4 the Ladder Theory) Not exactly the ones I described but just learning to be more of a challenge. You dont have to exactly ignore a potential female, just indirectly show her that you're interested but you have other options. This here will create the sense that you're more of a better catch than she is. She should try to work for your attention. While this doesn't work in all cases, its beneficial in more way than you can imagine.
Anyways, dont want to turn this into a class because I'm less than qualified at picking up the opposite sex. I'm still learning as I go along but back to the topic of cuddle bitches. I recently discovered that my gf somewhat has her own. She told me about some guy maybe 4 months into our relationship. She called him a "family friend". While I discovered he is actually a family friend, he really has this secret agenda to get with my girl and its been going on for the last 5 years. While she denies this claim, it only took 1 single confrontation with this guy to come to this realization. She says he's just a really good friend, I say this guy is waiting his turn and he's gonna keep waiting till he ultimately gets what he desires. Sad but true.
First time I meet him, he plays like he's the surragate father. He says "you know she's been my friend for a long time. She talks to me about everything and she told me about you already, etc, etc". "I just wanted to meet you and see what you really about". Then this guy proceeds to ask me "You and her sleeping together"? It all just hit me at the point. This guy wants to nail my girl and he already doesn't like me. Well if she tells him everything, I'm sure she's told him that and I know its killing him inside. MWUhahah. I finnally say "Yea" and he proceeds to tell me that he already knows. WTF? Why even ask? Meh..he's just curious and wants the awful truth to come from my mouth. Anyway, he then pretends to like me and says I'm "cool" even though our little chit-chat hasn't stretched past nothingness.
Eventually I showed my gf this Ladder Theory and I made it a point to emphasize cuddle bitches and I told her this must be your "family friend". At first she denied it but then realized that its all so true. I feel sorry for the dude, I want to tell him that she's really not that interested in you but that cant really come from my mouth. I've been where he's at but not that bad. I did'nt waste 5 years of my life pursuing a girl that really did'nt like me. More like a summer. She admits that the guy would do damn near anything for her and actually made fun of that fact. She is'nt exactly using him since she's been with me. I dont want my girl having any cuddle bitches, if I'm not providing whatever intimacy, friendship or whatever you need, then you need to let me know or find somebody else. But this guy, he's a digrace to the guy code. He's starting to pop up at her crib at random times of the night with lies that he's locked out the crib. He purposely leaves things over her crib so he can have an excuse to pop back up. When he calls her and she says she's with me, I can hear the silence on the phone. Its a damn shame.
What do you think I should do with the cuddle bitch? Should I let my girl handle that or should I step in?
Anyway, discuss the greatness that is the Ladder Theory and thanks to whomever put me on to it. Its provided some very interesting conversation.
. I'm in the same exact situation as you were in too...sigh.
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