Native American Mascots/Names

[WazzuRC]

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It's the name of a sports team. Get over it.

People in this world spend way too much time arguing about pointless nonsense.

What you think is pointless others might have a strong belief in.

[jmood88]

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It's the name of a sports team. Get over it.

People in this world spend way too much time arguing about pointless nonsense.

It's easy to say that when you aren't a member of a group that has had to deal with this nonsense for generations.

[ODogg]

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What you think is pointless others might have a strong belief in.

Well maybe my feelings get hurt when I see a mullet, should we not allow people to wear mullets because it offends someone? As I said, the loudest complainers about these sorts of things are not even usually the people who are in question.

[ODogg]

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It's easy to say that when you aren't a member of a group that has had to deal with this nonsense for generations.

What nonsense, a football team with a nickname that you find offensive? LOL....cry me a river man. If that's something that is a major downer in your life you must have it pretty darned good.

[jmood88]

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Well maybe my feelings get hurt when I see a mullet, should we not allow people to wear mullets because it offends someone? As I said, the loudest complainers about these sorts of things are not even usually the people who are in question.

Someone having a mullet is not the same as someone making light of your culture and having that accepted by people nationwide as nothing.

[jmood88]

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What nonsense, a football team with a nickname that you find offensive? LOL....cry me a river man. If that's something that is a major downer in your life you must have it pretty darned good.

I'm not crying about anything, I'm just saying that people who don't have to deal with stuff like this really don't know what they're talking about when they say it's not important or that it doesn't matter.

[Double Eights]

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I'm not crying about anything, I'm just saying that people who don't have to deal with stuff like this really don't know what they're talking about when they say it's not important or that it doesn't matter.

You go to the Ohio State University.

And you are talking about hardships. Nice.

[WazzuRC]

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Well maybe my feelings get hurt when I see a mullet, should we not allow people to wear mullets because it offends someone? As I said, the loudest complainers about these sorts of things are not even usually the people who are in question.

Having a mullet and being apart of racial group are completely different things.

What nonsense, a football team with a nickname that you find offensive? LOL....cry me a river man. If that's something that is a major downer in your life you must have it pretty darned good.

You'd think after everything that Native Americans have gone through the last thing they want to see is a white guy jumping around like an idiot trying to "honor" their heritage...


Again, I'm really not trying to start a huge argument I just want opinions on why you guys believe the way you do. Thanks for the responses.

[WazzuRC]

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You go to the Ohio State University.

And you are talking about hardships. Nice.

What does that have to do with anything? Because someone goes to a good school that haven't had any hardships in their lives?

Besides, they only got Greg Oden and Mike Conley for one year...

[WazzuRC]

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What nonsense, a football team with a nickname that you find offensive? LOL....cry me a river man. If that's something that is a major downer in your life you must have it pretty darned good.

Besides, its not just football TEAM. Do you realize how many pro, college, and high school...SCHOOLS... that have or currently use Native Americans as mascots/logos. Hundreds, if not thousands. Its not just Illinois, Florida State, KC Chiefs, etc. Its not just football either. Many of these school depict Indians as simple caricatures on t-shirts, hats, other clothes, equipment, lunch boxes, toilet paper, etc.

[jmood88]

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You go to the Ohio State University.

And you are talking about hardships. Nice.

What are you talking about? What I'm talking about are teams with stupid nicknames and/or mascots.

[stiffarmleft]

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It must be nice that the only negative thing some people have to deal with is a mullet.... anyhow here is some info about the term Redskin, straight from Wikipedia:

“Back not so long ago, when there was a bounty on the heads of the Indian people... the trappers would bring in Indian scalps along with the other skins that they had managed to trap or shoot,” says Holder, whose arguments were included in a recent court filing in support of Harjo's claim. “Trappers and hunters began using the term ‘redskin’ ...they would tell the owner that they had bearskin, deerskins...and ‘redskins.’ The term came from the bloody mess that one saw when looking at the scalp ...thus the term ‘red’...skin... So, you see when we see or hear that term...we don't see a football team... we don't see a game being played...we don't see any ‘honor’...we see the bloody pieces of scalps that were hacked off of our men, women and even our children... we hear the screams as our people were killed...and ‘skinned’ just like animals. So, yes, ...you can safely say that the term is considered extremely offensive.”

Big difference between a mullet and being scalped.

[Rocky]

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You go to the Ohio State University.

And you are talking about hardships. Nice.

Every single point you made is irrelevant. Are there more important things than the name 'Redskins'? Of course, but that doesn't make it right. For some people, it's just a lil' bit more important than how Clinton Portis does on their fantasy team.

And let's not get it twisted. The ONLY reason why the name hasn't been changed is because it's a lucrative pro sports franchise going against relatively small, disjointed minority groups. Not exactly the NAACP vs. the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Double Eights]

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The term Yankee (sometimes abbreviated to Yank) has a number of possible meanings, but in almost all contexts, it refers to someone of American origin or heritage. Within the United States, its popular meaning has varied over time. Historically, the term usually refers to residents of New England, as used by Mark Twain in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court. During and after the American Civil War, its popular meaning expanded to include any Northerner or resident of the Union, and included any resident of the Northeast (New England, Mid-Atlantic, and upper Great Lakes states). Over time, however, the term has since reverted to its 18th century geographic indication of New England, except when the speaker is from the South. Outside the United States, Yank or Yankee is one of the lesser derogatory slang terms for any American, whether from New England or not.

Should we change the New York Yankees name too?

People today have too thin of skin. A simple word or name makes everyone freak out. Last I checked, these mascots weren't going around scalping the fans.

[Brandon13]

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It must be nice that the only negative thing some people have to deal with is a mullet.... anyhow here is some info about the term Redskin, straight from Wikipedia:

“Back not so long ago, when there was a bounty on the heads of the Indian people... the trappers would bring in Indian scalps along with the other skins that they had managed to trap or shoot,” says Holder, whose arguments were included in a recent court filing in support of Harjo's claim. “Trappers and hunters began using the term ‘redskin’ ...they would tell the owner that they had bearskin, deerskins...and ‘redskins.’ The term came from the bloody mess that one saw when looking at the scalp ...thus the term ‘red’...skin... So, you see when we see or hear that term...we don't see a football team... we don't see a game being played...we don't see any ‘honor’...we see the bloody pieces of scalps that were hacked off of our men, women and even our children... we hear the screams as our people were killed...and ‘skinned’ just like animals. So, yes, ...you can safely say that the term is considered extremely offensive.”

Big difference between a mullet and being scalped.

Wow, I didn't know that. That's pretty f'd up then.