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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #15751
    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

    Originally posted by l3ulvl
    Serious question, what's the difference between a goon and a thug?
    Not sure if you're asking me but when it comes to hockey I've always considered them to be one and the same.

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    • l3ulvl
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2009
      • 17230

      #15752
      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

      Originally posted by kehlis
      Not sure if you're asking me but when it comes to hockey I've always considered them to be one and the same.
      Not specifically you, just looking for a general idea of the difference. In hockey it's always "goon", in basketball it's always "thug". I always figured they had the same derogative meaning. Outside of sports, what would the difference be? Is there some sort of mafia hierarchy? Any OS crime lords available to chime in?

      edit: if it's a racial difference I understand letting the topic die so no one gets in TOS trouble. sorry I didn't think of that initially
      Last edited by l3ulvl; 11-15-2014, 12:39 AM.
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      • Burns11
        Greatness Has Arrived
        • Mar 2007
        • 7406

        #15753
        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

        A goon is a hired thug outside of sports, and probably why it's used in Hockey for goons (thugs hired specifically to be thugs on the ice).

        Thug's use in basketball is more racial in nature (both with racist intent and not), so it's probably best to leave that at that.

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        • TripleCrown9
          Keep the Faith
          • May 2010
          • 23669

          #15754
          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

          But what's a goon to a goblin?
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          • NDAlum
            ND
            • Jun 2010
            • 11453

            #15755
            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            Nothing like fans making excuses for intentionally throwing 90 mph baseballs at flesh.

            I'm assuming you didn't quote me because I didn't say any of this.

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            • slickdtc
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              • Aug 2004
              • 17125

              #15756
              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

              Originally posted by l3ulvl
              Not specifically you, just looking for a general idea of the difference. In hockey it's always "goon", in basketball it's always "thug". I always figured they had the same derogative meaning. Outside of sports, what would the difference be? Is there some sort of mafia hierarchy? Any OS crime lords available to chime in?

              edit: if it's a racial difference I understand letting the topic die so no one gets in TOS trouble. sorry I didn't think of that initially

              Goon, when talking about hockey players, just means enforcer. For example, Rinaldo for the Flyers. Thug would be a dirty player, someone like Marchand.
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              And how does one levy a check that will result in only a slight concussion? Do they set their shoulder-pads to 'stun'?

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              • kingkilla56
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                • Jun 2009
                • 19395

                #15757
                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                Originally posted by NDAlum
                I'm assuming you didn't quote me because I didn't say any of this.

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                You telling me I neither watch the sport nor understand it implies you're making an excuse for it. That's how I read your post. But hey maybe I just don't understand it!

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                • NDAlum
                  ND
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 11453

                  #15758
                  Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                  You said you don't watch it!

                  LMAO
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                  • kingkilla56
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 19395

                    #15759
                    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                    Originally posted by NDAlum
                    You said you don't watch it!

                    LMAO
                    I said I don't watch often, but please continue throwing straws.
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                    • Segagendude
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 7940

                      #15760
                      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                      I actually enjoy hockey fights. I hate baseball fights, where guys get held back by their team yet they continue trying to look tough, lol.

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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #15761
                        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                        Originally posted by kingkilla56
                        I said I don't watch often, but please continue throwing straws.
                        My fiancee also doesn't watch it often. We went to a AAA MiLB game this past season and upon our arrival the home team was up 1-0. She said "Oh cool they already scored a point!"

                        I don't talk about engines, hockey, soccer, tennis, and many other topics/sports because I don't know enough about them to sound intelligent.
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                        • kingkilla56
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                          • Jun 2009
                          • 19395

                          #15762
                          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                          What does any of this have to do with me thinking that intentionally beaming, I mean beaning, players is stupid?

                          I'm sitting on a bed of straws now. I don't have enough beverages to make use of them all please stop!
                          Last edited by kingkilla56; 11-15-2014, 01:15 PM.
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                          • PadresFan
                            Underrated
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1147

                            #15763
                            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                            Somehow losing a contact lens from the time it was taken out of the case to the time of trying to put it in my eye. Maybe a second? That thing vanished.

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                            • Gotmadskillzson
                              Live your life
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 23428

                              #15764
                              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                              I have to go to my in laws in an hour.....Life is cruel......somebody shoot me now.

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                              • NDAlum
                                ND
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 11453

                                #15765
                                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                                What does any of this have to do with me thinking that intentionally beaming, I mean beaning, players is stupid?

                                I'm sitting on a bed of straws now. I don't have enough beverages to make use of them all please stop!

                                Beaming isn't even a term
                                Hitting rookies for the heck of it doesn't happen. There is a reason behind it and being a rookie is not the reason.
                                You then use a dramatic tone to try and get the point across with your flesh line

                                I never defended beaning batters
                                I never made an excuse for it

                                Feel free to think its stupid to hit people

                                All I did was point out the inaccuracy of your observations. You brought baseball into the conversation and then said you don't really watch it often. That was 100% clear from what you said!

                                The use of throwing straws is something is never heard lol. I've heard of grasping for straws though, maybe that's what you meant.

                                If you want to use the old straw man argument go for it.

                                My only inaccuracy was stating that you don't watch baseball. You apparently have watched it enough to not know basic terminology or reasons why batters get plunked.

                                I will let it rest with this. Good day sir I hope you enjoy the rest of your Saturday.
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