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  • l3ulvl
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    • Dec 2009
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    #9991
    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

    Originally posted by Gman 18
    Ellen DeGeneres kinda grinds my gears. I don't think she is as nice as a person as people think she is and some of the people who used to work for her behind the scenes say she is a living hell behind the scenes. It's also kinda annoying how she gives so much attention to those little British girls Sophie and Rosie for singing a FREAKING Nicki Minaj song. Now they get all this money, Ellen gives them these big expensive items every time they appear on her show and they even get guest apperances on TV shows and i'm sure they make a ton of money from that as well. They aren't doing anything to help society but it seems people who don't help society in any way at all get more money than a person that actually helps society in a big way will ever make. What has society come to? I might as well make a rap song about Ellen and send it to her via email and hope I get to appear on her show at least once every month and make a lot of money from it without even doing anything to help society or getting a job lol.
    Yeah, actors, musicians, and athletes make a ton of money without really providing a service to anyone other than entertainment. It's our own fault though, if we weren't willing to pay so much to watch them perform, they wouldn't be entitled to such a percentage of revenue. It's kind of annoying, especially with how underpaid teachers are. But on the plus side they make a lot of donations and do a good amount of charity work to help communities. Not all of them of course, but many.
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    • Gman 18
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      • Jul 2012
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      #9992
      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

      Originally posted by l3ulvl
      Yeah, actors, musicians, and athletes make a ton of money without really providing a service to anyone other than entertainment. It's our own fault though, if we weren't willing to pay so much to watch them perform, they wouldn't be entitled to such a percentage of revenue. It's kind of annoying, especially with how underpaid teachers are. But on the plus side they make a lot of donations and do a good amount of charity work to help communities. Not all of them of course, but many.
      Yeah that's good but they are still way overpaid. I don't understand how men and women playing a kid's game get paid millions of dollars for hitting and fielding a ball as in baseball and what they do in other sports.
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      • l3ulvl
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        #9993
        Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

        Originally posted by Gman 18
        Yeah that's good but they are still way overpaid. I don't understand how men playing a kid's game get paid millions of dollars.
        Because we pay to watch them lol. The owners can keep cranking the prices and we keep paying anyway, it wouldn't be fair to the players if they weren't compensated for the revenue they're generating. It would take a national boycott, and we'd possibly lose the sports altogether if we wanted to make a change.
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        • Fly3
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          • Sep 2011
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          #9994
          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

          Originally posted by Gman 18
          Yeah that's good but they are still way overpaid. I don't understand how men and women playing a kid's game get paid millions of dollars for hitting and fielding a ball as in baseball and what they do in other sports.
          Would you rather the billionaire/near-billionaire owners have your money?

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          • Gman 18
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            • Jul 2012
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            #9995
            Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

            Originally posted by Fly3
            Would you rather the billionaire/near-billionaire owners have your money?
            I'm talking about the players not the owners
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            • Redacted01
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              #9996
              Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

              Originally posted by Fly3
              Would you rather the billionaire/near-billionaire owners have your money?
              They still do get most of the money. Outside of baseball, the other sports have salary caps. The teams that make money, revenue sharing and a bit of profit pays off the players, and the rest goes right into their pockets. Baseball is the only one where it can really vary. You have those teams like KC (at least at one point) that pocket as much as they can. Steinbrenner on the other hand never cared about taking a loss if it meant getting the players he wanted on the field.

              Fact is, even with some of these overpaid players, the owners still make a lot in many cases.

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              • Fly3
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                • Sep 2011
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                #9997
                Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                Originally posted by Gman 18
                I'm talking about the players not the owners
                Lol, the money has to go somewhere. Would you rather it go to the players or the owners?

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                • Gman 18
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                  • Jul 2012
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                  #9998
                  Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                  Originally posted by Fly3
                  Lol, the money has to go somewhere. Would you rather it go to the players or the owners?
                  I guess the owners but that's cuz they're helping the franchise out and endorsing it and everything. Players are just playing a kid's game on a field and make millions from it.
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                  • NDAlum
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                    • Jun 2010
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                    #9999
                    Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                    Originally posted by Fly3
                    Lol, the money has to go somewhere. Would you rather it go to the players or the owners?
                    Maybe they could lower ticket prices & concessions. The money could go back to the consumer.
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                    • ubernoob
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                      Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                      Originally posted by dickey1331
                      Lets take a look at what a military wife has to go through that normal wifes dont. We will use my wife as an example.

                      Shes the units ombudsman so she is in charge of all of the other military wives at my unit. This is a volunteer position.

                      Volunteer. Any extra stress she suffers from this is on her, but good on her for doing it.

                      We move every 3-4 years which means a new job and new friends.

                      Means a new job, yes. New friends is debatable.

                      Out of the 3 years Im stationed in Mississippi Ill be gone 1 1/2 of them. So about 6 months a year. Its all up to her to take care of the house, dogs, yard, kids (if I had any). If anything goes wrong she has to handle it. Not to count when I come home from a deployment the weirdness of adjusting to normal life only having to go though it again a few months later.

                      You mean if something went wrong, she'd have to do the horrendous, soul-wrenching thing of being a human being and doing something for herself? Saying things like her taking care of the house, dogs, yard and kids is tough is giving her (or the wives) no credit at all. How will women ever survive living on their own without us men to take care of things?

                      Shes away from her family and friends back home. Now we are lucky since its only a 9 hour dive. When we were in Alaska it was a 9 hr flight.

                      This isn't a military-only thing here. I have plenty of friends that have moved away because they got some awesome job offers out of college. Military has a bigger built-in support system for these things and I will say it's an easier transition for military than non-military people that move.

                      The only way she gets to talk to me when Im gone is through email or when Im at a port call.

                      Again, part of the territory. It's not a huge deal and makes when you do talk "that much more special."

                      She didnt sign up and get paid like I do. She just fell in love with me and had to chose between a normal life and being with me. Ive missed every christmas Ive been in the military so she gets to spend it alone. Ill be gone every anniversary while Im here.

                      Technically, she does (through you getting extra money) get paid for being married. A substantial amount.

                      She gets to deal with me going away randomly to a school or find out 3 days before a deployment that the length of my deployment has been doubled.

                      If it's not a combat deployment, it's not a "deployment."

                      It would be a lot worse if we had kids also. In the year Ive been in Mississippi we have had more people get a divorce then stay married. Its a lot of **** to put up with.

                      Of course the military divorce rate is huge. It's a broken system. I can't tell you how many contract marriages, or people that at one point "loved" each other and saw how much extra money you get and rushed into marriage. It's not necessarily because it's so hard.
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                      • dickey1331
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                        • Sep 2009
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                        #10001
                        You know what really grinds my gears?

                        Originally posted by ubernoob
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                        Volunteer. Any extra stress she suffers from this is on her, but good on her for doing it.

                        A wife has to do it so its still part of being a military wife.


                        Means a new job, yes. New friends is debatable.

                        How is new friends debatable? If I move to New York next I nor my wife know anyone in New York.

                        You mean if something went wrong, she'd have to do the horrendous, soul-wrenching thing of being a human being and doing something for herself? Saying things like her taking care of the house, dogs, yard and kids is tough is giving her (or the wives) no credit at all. How will women ever survive living on their own without us men to take care of things?

                        It can be if something is only in my name like my car or something like that.


                        Again, part of the territory. It's not a huge deal and makes when you do talk "that much more special."

                        How is it not a big deal? Have you gone 2 weeks at a time without talking to your wife? Do you do it often?



                        Technically, she does (through you getting extra money) get paid for being married. A substantial amount.

                        I would like to know where this substantial amount comes from. The only part of my paycheck that changes from being married is my BAH.

                        Single - $1044
                        Married - $1116


                        If it's not a combat deployment, it's not a "deployment."

                        deployment/patrol its the same thing regardless if you are in combat or not.


                        Of course the military divorce rate is huge. It's a broken system. I can't tell you how many contract marriages, or people that at one point "loved" each other and saw how much extra money you get and rushed into marriage. It's not necessarily because it's so hard.

                        Again where is this extra money coming from? Id say most if not all of the divorces at my unit happened due to it being hard and not about money. We dont make much money so I dont know why anyone would do it for the money except maybe the medical insurance but dependent medical insurance isnt the same as active duty.


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                        • ubernoob
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                          Re: You know what really grinds my gears?

                          I've gone way longer than 2 weeks without talking to my significant other. Also, deployment/patrol are not the same thing "regardless if you are in combat or not."

                          If you're saying marriages don't happen for extra money, you are kidding yourself. "Contract marriages" are quite a common occurrence.

                          I get it. Every part of the military has it's own unique stressors. If you want to convince yourself things aren't happening that are, I'd challenge you to go life a Marine infantryman life. You'd gladly take whatever you have now back.

                          What's hard about dealing with every day things? If she (or the male) can't take care of themselves, that doesn't make it hard. It means they need to grow up before they can even think about getting married.

                          You know what's hard? Standing post for 24 hours when in the past 96 hours you've gotten maybe 3 hours of sleep. Actual combat (not just a "deployment".) Hell, half the deployments the infantry Marines do (MEUs) are a joke and everyone hates them. You haven't lived in the military until you've seen the prison rules society that people deal with in those line platoons.
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                          • l3ulvl
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                            • TheShizNo1
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                              • Mar 2007
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                              #10004
                              My mom raised three boys by herself. Military wives can suck it up.

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                              • jack1535
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                                #10005
                                Originally posted by Gman 18
                                I guess the owners but that's cuz they're helping the franchise out and endorsing it and everything. Players are just playing a kid's game on a field and make millions from it.
                                When people call baseball or any sport a kids game grinds my gears. It was invented by men, it's a mens game
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