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  • stiffarmleft
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1986

    #1

    Would you use steroids?

    I'm not saying steroids are safe, but it seems like many athletes are doing this under the supervision of a doctor, with a more controlled dosage which may or may not be safer. So if the negative side effects were negligible and the substance was undetectable, would you use it to get an edge and possibly make millions as a professional athlete. I'd like to say I'd take the high road but I don't know, I hate working for a living. I'm way past my prime so this really does not apply to me, but I am interested in what some of the younger guys or gals on the forum have to say who are still involved in athletics.
  • Brandon13
    All Star
    • Oct 2005
    • 8915

    #2
    Re: Would you use steroids?

    If I had a chance to make millions of dollars and I felt that steroids were the only way I'd be able to accomplish it, I think that I probably would.

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    • Trevytrev11
      MVP
      • Nov 2006
      • 3259

      #3
      Re: Would you use steroids?

      I was a guy that pitched in college and topped out at about 85 MPH. I had excellent location and decent movement and another 5-7 MPH would have probably done wonders for my career, but it's just not something I could have done. Besides the physical risks, I wouldn't want to deal with all of the other crap (acne break outs, shrunken testicles, sexual dysphunction, mental outbreaks, etc.). Plus, to me it would seem obvious to all of my peers. It's just not normal for a guy to absolutely blow up in the course of a few months (thought it can happen naturally, it's not the norm)...so the money would be great, obviously, but there's probably a good chance it would ruin you as a person....and like any other thing, when do you stop? If you seen instant results, you're going to want to keep them up, which likely means you'd have to go on a maintenence program, so that crap is always in you.

      I got the new Playboy yesterday and there is an interesting interview (and a rather nice pictorial) of Bon's ex-wife who talks about the symptoms and side effects that happend to Bonds. Who know's if she's telling the truth or just trying to make a buck, but she basically says he turned from a decent guy to an absolute monster because of that stuff.

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      • stewaat

        #4
        Re: Would you use steroids?

        Originally posted by Trevytrev11
        I was a guy that pitched in college and topped out at about 85 MPH. I had excellent location and decent movement and another 5-7 MPH would have probably done wonders for my career, but it's just not something I could have done. Besides the physical risks, I wouldn't want to deal with all of the other crap (acne break outs, shrunken testicles, sexual dysphunction, mental outbreaks, etc.). Plus, to me it would seem obvious to all of my peers. It's just not normal for a guy to absolutely blow up in the course of a few months (thought it can happen naturally, it's not the norm)...so the money would be great, obviously, but there's probably a good chance it would ruin you as a person....and like any other thing, when do you stop? If you seen instant results, you're going to want to keep them up, which likely means you'd have to go on a maintenence program, so that crap is always in you.

        I got the new Playboy yesterday and there is an interesting interview (and a rather nice pictorial) of Bon's ex-wife who talks about the symptoms and side effects that happend to Bonds. Who know's if she's telling the truth or just trying to make a buck, but she basically says he turned from a decent guy to an absolute monster because of that stuff.
        Good story. I just finished school and I was also a pitcher. In HS I would top out at 93 and I threw the same my freshman year in college. That summer my shoulder bothered me and was never the same. Senior year I only topped out at 90 and decided that I didn't want to pursue pro ball. I'm only 22 years old and I recently had the opportunity to get on steroids. I had a buddy who took them before and pretty much told me they were harmless. That's why so many people do them. There are types out there which have a very low chance of side effects.

        From knowing this guy I have also seen the "monster" side of him come out at his girl, and it wasn't pretty. I definitely think that rage/aggression is a serious side effect.

        Long story short...no I would not take steroids. But damn 5-7 and a better feeling arm sound really good to me, that's a legitimate 92-93 touching 95 with my 2-seam fastball which has a lot of movement. Throw in a splitty and horrible slider and I could be a reliever! What's that, about $5M a year. Damn't

        On 2nd thought....

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        • bkfount
          All Star
          • Oct 2004
          • 8467

          #5
          Re: Would you use steroids?

          I believe that anyone that says they wouldn't use steroids in a professional sports setting to make them elite is lying. Making more millions in a few years time to provide for your family is a huge motivatior. I couldn't care less about the "cheating" aspect. All athletes can arguably be seen as "cheating" compared to athletes of an era ago.
          Last edited by bkfount; 10-11-2007, 09:48 AM.

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          • ExtremeGamer
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            • Jul 2002
            • 35299

            #6
            Re: Would you use steroids?

            Originally posted by bkfount
            I believe that anyone that says they wouldn't use steroids in a professional sports setting to make them elite is lying. Making more millions in a few years time to provide for your family is a huge motivatior. I couldn't care less about the "cheating" aspect. All athletes can arguably be seen as "cheating" compared to athletes of an era ago.
            I can honestly say I wouldn't have or never would. I don't drink or smoke, never have those either. I don't put anything really into my body that can cause me any harm.

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            • stewaat

              #7
              Re: Would you use steroids?

              Originally posted by bkfount
              I believe that anyone that says they wouldn't use steroids in a professional sports setting to make them elite is lying. Making more millions in a few years time to provide for your family is a huge motivatior. I couldn't care less about the "cheating" aspect. All athletes can arguably be seen as "cheating" compared to athletes of an era ago.
              I'm about to go take some right now!

              I haven't thrown a baseball in a couple months, I still have that fantasy of just pumping it up one time and 95 coming to me. It could happen! WITH STEROIDS!

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              • RoyalBoyle78
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                • May 2003
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                #8
                Re: Would you use steroids?

                I'll be honest, I have done a cycle or two in my time......
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                • The C
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 7538

                  #9
                  Re: Would you use steroids?

                  Would I be a negilible talent like Nefi Perez or would I be an actual talent like Shawn Merriman?

                  If I was Perez, hell yeah.

                  If I was like Merrimen, nah.

                  On the side note, how small would my testicles become? Small enough to be offset by owning fancy cars?

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                  • nyisles16
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8317

                    #10
                    Re: Would you use steroids?

                    if I was in that position, i really can't say if I would or not.. knowing what it does to the body, I would not in any way do them.. however, if it gave me a chance to make big bucks playing a professional sport (also weigh the fact so few get the chance to do it, competition is fierce, etc), who knows...

                    I've done the "drinking" thing in college - got that out of the way.. haven't done anything else.. (occasional drinks every now and then).

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                    • mgoblue
                      Go Wings!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 25477

                      #11
                      Re: Would you use steroids?

                      Originally posted by stiffarmleft
                      I'm not saying steroids are safe, but it seems like many athletes are doing this under the supervision of a doctor, with a more controlled dosage which may or may not be safer. So if the negative side effects were negligible and the substance was undetectable, would you use it to get an edge and possibly make millions as a professional athlete. I'd like to say I'd take the high road but I don't know, I hate working for a living. I'm way past my prime so this really does not apply to me, but I am interested in what some of the younger guys or gals on the forum have to say who are still involved in athletics.
                      You say 'if the negative side effects were negligible'...why wouldn't these be legal and all athletes would be using them. The fact that they do mess you up big time is why they're illegal. Not worth the chance IMO, my life is too important. What good is money when you can't spend it? Plus I don't want raisins for testicles.
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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #12
                        Re: Would you use steroids?

                        I don't use steroids and I have no interest in using them but I don't understand why they're outlawed. All outlawing them does is make people import them and use unsafe levels due to not having them administered by a doctor.
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                        • Trevytrev11
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 3259

                          #13
                          Re: Would you use steroids?

                          Originally posted by mgoblue
                          You say 'if the negative side effects were negligible'...why wouldn't these be legal and all athletes would be using them. The fact that they do mess you up big time is why they're illegal. Not worth the chance IMO, my life is too important. What good is money when you can't spend it? Plus I don't want raisins for testicles.
                          I disagree with the logic... Alcohol and cigarettes are both widley proven to be dangerous, but they are both legal to anyone above 18/21. Meanwhile many studies have shown marijuana to be much less dangerous than both, yet it is still illegal (excluding medicinal purposes).

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                          • rudyjuly2
                            Cade Cunningham
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 14815

                            #14
                            Re: Would you use steroids?

                            I would say no. I've never touched the stuff or any drugs for that matter. People are always looking at only the physical side effects. I also consider the honour of competition. If I'm a sprinter and I win the gold medal because I'm a cheater I would never be proud of my accomplishment. I would always feel a sense of disgrace. I'm the kind of guy that if he gets the wrong change back from the cashier, I give them the money back. Fair is fair and cheating with steroids makes you a cheater.

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                            • MassNole
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 18848

                              #15
                              Re: Would you use steroids?

                              Originally posted by Brandon13
                              If I had a chance to make millions of dollars and I felt that steroids were the only way I'd be able to accomplish it, I think that I probably would.
                              I'd like to say differently, but I know I'd do the same. Hell I saw below average players get more playing time in HS when they started juicing, I never did, I never played. I am not thinking that was a coincidence.

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