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  • Jistic
    Hall Of Fame
    • Mar 2003
    • 16405

    #31
    Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

    Originally posted by DookieMowf
    I agree parents can only do so much. I have seen brothers raised the same way, one turn to drugs and crime and the other graduate from college. Not every person who does bad things had parents just like how not every person who is succesful had good childhood and parents who were there. You hear those stories all the time.
    To talk about just about any subject and say ALL, EVERY, is foolish. Yes there are bad apples. But to think that parenting isn't the single biggest influence is insane. With nurturing, can you still grow up and be evil? Sure. W/out it how much of a chance do you think you have?

    "Listening" to your parents and being raised by them is two different things. Anyone can yell at a kid for 18 years and tell them what to do. That's not parenting.
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    • bgeno
      MVP
      • Jun 2003
      • 4321

      #32
      Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

      Ah... the whole "nature vs. nurture" argument... I'm curious to watch where this one goes.
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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #33
        Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

        Originally posted by fistofrage
        Sure, but I guarantee the kid that has good parents has an infinitely greater possibility of turning out good than a kid with worthless or neglectful parents. The kid with good parents can elect to make bad choices, but most likely its a choice. A kid with bad, worthless, neglectful parents does heinous things because they fully don't understand the consequences of their actions and they haven't been exposed on a consistant basis to good moral decision making. In other words, a kid with heinous parents most likely will do heinous things because "They Don't Know No Better".
        Originally posted by Jistic
        To talk about just about any subject and say ALL, EVERY, is foolish. Yes there are bad apples. But to think that parenting isn't the single biggest influence is insane. With nurturing, can you still grow up and be evil? Sure. W/out it how much of a chance do you think you have?

        "Listening" to your parents and being raised by them is two different things. Anyone can yell at a kid for 18 years and tell them what to do. That's not parenting.
        I agree. I was just saying...

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        • mgoblue
          Go Wings!
          • Jul 2002
          • 25477

          #34
          Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

          Wow, I just watched this and it sickened me...they lured this girl and made her run a gauntlet. She was refusing to fight and they'd just take shots. Crazy ish man...sad

          From what you can hear that isn't bleeped out, obviously these group of girls are more on the bad side, and there are truly good kids out there...

          Link to yahoo story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/...s/teen_beating

          Wow, earlier to the video they hit her head on the wall knocking her out, and later on after the video they forced her in a car and threatened her more beatings if she talked to the police. Even worse than the video makes it seem, and that was pretty evil.
          Last edited by mgoblue; 04-08-2008, 03:43 PM.
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          • realtalktruth
            Rookie
            • Sep 2007
            • 472

            #35
            Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

            am i the only one that actually thought the video was way less than i thought it would be? they were hitting her one after the other taking turns, and even talking to her in between. as a matter of fact they even wanted her to fight back. I was just expecting 8 people to be stomping and punching on this girl while she is on the ground bleeding to death. have you people never actually seen someone really getting jumped or something?
            Originally posted by bkrich83
            Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
            Originally posted by bkrich83
            It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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            • RAZRr1275
              All Star
              • Sep 2007
              • 9918

              #36
              Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

              wow. just wow.
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              • jerseyboi2284
                Pro
                • Apr 2005
                • 910

                #37
                Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                am i the only one that actually thought the video was way less than i thought it would be? they were hitting her one after the other taking turns, and even talking to her in between. as a matter of fact they even wanted her to fight back. I was just expecting 8 people to be stomping and punching on this girl while she is on the ground bleeding to death. have you people never actually seen someone really getting jumped or something?
                it could have been worse true, but it doesn't make it much better. and that just shows how numb people have become to situations like this.

                personal experience shows me that somebody fights back in a situation similar to that it would give the attacker MORE reason to use greater force. Only thing I wish happened was since one girl was standing at the door from the POV of the camera maybe she could of got off a quick offense then hauled ***.

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                • Bighoff
                  The Bird is the word
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 5312

                  #38
                  Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                  Of course a Mother of one of the attackers would say it's the fault of the victim, if she said her child was at fault then she would look bad as a Mother. Some people are just twisted, I'd bet the at least one of these attackers comes from parents who let their child get away with everything.
                  I've heard this "patience is a virtue" junk all my life. I'm happy to say I have no virtue, no scruples, and no desire to wait too long for anything. In my humble opinion instant gratification takes too long!

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                  • bgeno
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 4321

                    #39
                    Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                    Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                    am i the only one that actually thought the video was way less than i thought it would be? they were hitting her one after the other taking turns, and even talking to her in between. as a matter of fact they even wanted her to fight back. I was just expecting 8 people to be stomping and punching on this girl while she is on the ground bleeding to death. have you people never actually seen someone really getting jumped or something?
                    Just because there is worse, it doesn't make it right, dude.
                    Originally posted by DaImmaculateONe
                    How many brothers does Sub-zero running around in his clothing? No one can seem to kill the right one.

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                    • p_rushing
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #40
                      Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                      Originally posted by jerseyboi2284
                      personal experience shows me that somebody fights back in a situation similar to that it would give the attacker MORE reason to use greater force. Only thing I wish happened was since one girl was standing at the door from the POV of the camera maybe she could of got off a quick offense then hauled ***.
                      Yeah I saw that too. There was a broom handle or some type of handle behind her, if it was me, the other person might have ended up with the handle sticking out of some part of their body. She is a young female and definitely upset and scared, so there was no way for her to fight back in that situation.

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                      • realtalktruth
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 472

                        #41
                        Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                        Originally posted by bgeno
                        Just because there is worse, it doesn't make it right, dude.
                        who said it did? i was just reading other peoples opinions and they were talking about attempted murder and how it was worse then they imagined the video would be. im thinking what exactly were you expecting if you thought that was worse?
                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
                        Originally posted by bkrich83
                        It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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                        • ThreeKing
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 5852

                          #42
                          Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                          Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                          who said it did? i was just reading other peoples opinions and they were talking about attempted murder and how it was worse then they imagined the video would be. im thinking what exactly were you expecting if you thought that was worse?
                          I've seen a lot of your posts and I have to say you are one of the most misguided people I have ever encountered. Whether it's the internet or real life.

                          I think you need help.

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                          • realtalktruth
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 472

                            #43
                            Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                            the truth hurts, thats why so many people avoid it.

                            and their is nothing misguided about any of my posts, you just don't agree with them or they don't fit your opinion so you think i need help now. i guess everyone who disagrees with you needs help as well. all i was saying is i cannot understand how people are coming into this thread knowing that 8 people were arrested for beating up one girl and they feel the video was much worse then they anticipated.
                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            Just do what I do and put him on ignore. Some people just can't accept the fact, people have a differing opinion than theirs.
                            Originally posted by bkrich83
                            It's become my favorite feature. Although I do miss reading vickhalloffame's posts for his "insight" on the way the world works.

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                            • mgoblue
                              Go Wings!
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 25477

                              #44
                              Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                              Originally posted by vickhalloffame
                              the truth hurts, thats why so many people avoid it.

                              and their is nothing misguided about any of my posts, you just don't agree with them or they don't fit your opinion so you think i need help now. i guess everyone who disagrees with you needs help as well. all i was saying is i cannot understand how people are coming into this thread knowing that 8 people were arrested for beating up one girl and they feel the video was much worse then they anticipated.
                              One thing to note is that they jacked her head up against a wall and she was out cold...she had a lot of facial injuries, this was worse than the video implied...just sayin.
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                              • fishepa
                                I'm Ron F'n Swanson!
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 18989

                                #45
                                Re: What in the world is wrong with children today? I mean seriously.........

                                Someone just posted more unseen footage from the original video, unbelievable.

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