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  • Flightwhite24
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2005
    • 12095

    #16
    Re: Can my employer do this?

    Call an Attorney. Problem solved. These jailhouse opinions are not what you need. You need professional advice.
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    • Chaos81
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2004
      • 17150

      #17
      Re: Can my employer do this?

      Originally posted by superjames1992
      I don't believe there is a law about pilots.
      There is, ask your Dad about it.

      The problem is, a pilots hours most of the time, are only the time spent actually in the aircraft, once the engines are turning (or something along those lines). All the time they spend traveling to work (if they have to fly in from someplace else), all the time they spend getting ready before the flight, even sometimes they time they spend in the aircraft doing their pre-flight checks, all don't count towards the hours they can fly in a day.

      So if someone has to fly into their home base, if that takes them 3 hours, then they spend 2 hours before the flight doing what they need to do, that's 5 hours they've been "working", but they still have yet to get paid.

      I know I'm probably off a little bit somewhere, and you're Dad will know better, but I know there's a law for pilots. Like I said though, the problem is all the little stuff that adds up to a couple hours, doesn't (normally) get counted in their work hours.

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      • SuperBowlNachos
        All Star
        • Jul 2004
        • 10218

        #18
        Re: Can my employer do this?

        Didn't think so.

        It doesn't matter because I only work until 4 the day before lol

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        • TheGamingChef
          MVP
          • Jun 2006
          • 3384

          #19
          Re: Can my employer do this?

          Originally posted by superjames1992
          Truck drivers and train engineers can only drive 12 hours straight. Believe it or not, I don't believe there is a law about pilots. My dad has worked 18-20 hours straight, then turned around and had a short overnight of only four hours of sleep to fly another 16 hours the next day. You'd think a pilot would be the most important to get the sleep being that he could kill hundreds of people if he fell asleep while flying. Luckily, the other pilot would hopefully not be asleep, but still...

          Also, here is an interesting tidbit. Anytime you see a pilot, he's not getting paid. Pilots only get played when the doors are closed and the plane's engines are on. It's strange.
          That's interesting because air traffic controllers DO have regulations about how long time off between shifts must be. I believe it's a minimum of 8 hours between shifts.

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          • superjames1992
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 31382

            #20
            Re: Can my employer do this?

            Originally posted by TheGamingChef
            That's interesting because air traffic controllers DO have regulations about how long time off between shifts must be. I believe it's a minimum of 8 hours between shifts.
            Yes. Pilots get shafted on a lot of these types of things. They are not effected by the law that was enacted for the truckers and train engineers for some reason.
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            • Alliball
              MVP
              • Aug 2004
              • 2368

              #21
              Re: Can my employer do this?

              Originally posted by Scottdau
              I think there is. Especially when it is only 6 hours difference. I know at Safeway I had to be off for 12 hours or longer. I can't remember that far back.
              Safeway is unionized, WALMART is not. It wasn't a law it was in your contract.

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              • Bahnzo
                Can't spell antetokounmpo
                • Jun 2003
                • 2809

                #22
                Re: Can my employer do this?

                Originally posted by Alliball
                Safeway is unionized, WALMART is not. It wasn't a law it was in your contract.
                Ok, I can shed some light on this. It depends!

                Nothing to do with unions, it has to do with your state labor laws. When I lived in California, I had an employer pull this garbage with me until I found out exactly what is allowed.

                In California (in 1999 at least) if an employer had an employee come to work sooner than 8 hours after their previous shift ended, then they were required by law to pay overtime for that entire shift (the next shift).

                So they could schedule me, but they had to me double time. That BS ended ASAP when I told them that, AND I got them to pay me the extra money for the shifts they did make me work.

                Like I said, check your state's labor laws.
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                • Cletus
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1771

                  #23
                  Re: Can my employer do this?

                  in Texas, you have to have at least a 6 hour break in between shifts. I know in South Carolina it was 8. It all depends on your state.
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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #24
                    Re: Can my employer do this?

                    No Union=how Wal-Mart got so big in the first place. They can basically do whatever they want short of operating a sweatshop. The company has a very anti-union stance IIRC.
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                    • Cebby
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 22327

                      #25
                      Re: Can my employer do this?

                      Originally posted by SPTO
                      The company has a very anti-union stance IIRC.
                      They do and it gives us cheap goods. And with job shortages, they aren't unionizing so LoL at the potential union bosses.

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                      • auburntigersfan
                        Release the Kirchen
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 4737

                        #26
                        Re: Can my employer do this?

                        Where's MassNole?
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