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  • ghm125
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    • Jul 2002
    • 2439

    #76
    Re: Another year, what's the point?

    to get to the end of your purpose, you have been given,you know what it is ,you choose to not follow...
    VIOLATION!!!!!!!!

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    • ODogg
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      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #77
      Re: Another year, what's the point?

      Originally posted by jake44np
      The orginal poster can say life is not about family but it is.
      I too thought life lacked meaning or a point until I became a father 2 years ago.
      I live each and every day to make my baby's life better. I want her to have everything and to have the best father ever!
      I grew up without a father and I will make sure she doesnt. Until you are a father (and by father I dont meen just a sperm donor) you truly dont know what I am talking about! I am 36 years old now and because of my daughter I do have meening in life. Again you cant possibly understand until you become a father too. I cant wait to get home each day to see my daughters smile as she greets me at the door is the best way I can sum it up!
      That's not a purpose though, that is a function. As I said, if someone said they were going to make a toy and you asked what did it do...to which you replied, well it does nothing but it makes other toys..and that is it's purpose, well you can see that ultimately that may imply a function of life, but not a purpose.

      I am not belittling your post nor your love for your children and everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion but I don't see how having children, or to be somewhat blunt, increasing the human population through a biological function, entails any definition of an ultimate purpose of the human race.
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      • Bornindamecca
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        • Jul 2007
        • 10919

        #78
        Re: Another year, what's the point?

        Originally posted by ODogg
        That's not a purpose though, that is a function. As I said, if someone said they were going to make a toy and you asked what did it do...to which you replied, well it does nothing but it makes other toys..and that is it's purpose, well you can see that ultimately that may imply a function of life, but not a purpose.

        I am not belittling your post nor your love for your children and everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion but I don't see how having children, or to be somewhat blunt, increasing the human population through a biological function, entails any definition of an ultimate purpose of the human race.
        A true function is a purpose. All designed things were designed for a specific function. There may be peripheral applications of that design, but there was an original intent for the function. For example, a screw driver can be used to maim someone, or open a box, but it was created for the function of inserting and removing screws. When it is used for that function, all parts of the screwdriver's design make sense, and it is "right".

        It seems as though humans have a "sense" of their own true function, because of the spare parts left during peripheral activities. When they search for their purpose or function, they are looking for an existence that leaves no parts wasted, and justifies all aspects of the their inherent design.
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        • ODogg
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          • Feb 2003
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          #79
          Re: Another year, what's the point?

          Originally posted by Bornindamecca
          A true function is a purpose. All designed things were designed for a specific function. There may be peripheral applications of that design, but there was an original intent for the function. For example, a screw driver can be used to maim someone, or open a box, but it was created for the function of inserting and removing screws. When it is used for that function, all parts of the screwdriver's design make sense, and it is "right".

          It seems as though humans have a "sense" of their own true function, because of the spare parts left during peripheral activities. When they search for their purpose or function, they are looking for an existence that leaves no parts wasted, and justifies all aspects of the their inherent design.
          My point is simple replication as a true purpose makes very little sense. Is our purpose as a species then fulfilled once the entire earth is so packed with humans we no longer have room to reproduce? How does that make one iota of sense?
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          • jake44np
            Post Like a Champion!
            • Jul 2002
            • 9563

            #80
            Re: Another year, what's the point?

            Originally posted by ODogg
            That's not a purpose though, that is a function. As I said, if someone said they were going to make a toy and you asked what did it do...to which you replied, well it does nothing but it makes other toys..and that is it's purpose, well you can see that ultimately that may imply a function of life, but not a purpose.

            I am not belittling your post nor your love for your children and everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion but I don't see how having children, or to be somewhat blunt, increasing the human population through a biological function, entails any definition of an ultimate purpose of the human race.
            I am guessing you dont have children do you???
            You asked what the point or meening of life is, and my daughter is mine.
            I was in the same boat as you about 5 years ago, I truly wondered what my purpose or meening in life was. Now I know. I was put here to be a great father and take care of my daughter.
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            • Bornindamecca
              Books Nelson Simnation
              • Jul 2007
              • 10919

              #81
              Re: Another year, what's the point?

              Originally posted by ODogg
              My point is simple replication as a true purpose makes very little sense. Is our purpose as a species then fulfilled once the entire earth is so packed with humans we no longer have room to reproduce? How does that make one iota of sense?
              I totally agree that childbirth is not our true function. It's an aspect of survival, and there's fulfillment in most aspects of survival. I just wanted to touch on the idea that there is no separation between function and purpose, and it's not just semantics. The secret to many things comes with questioning the verb(action or function) rather than the noun or adjective(state of being).
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              • fistofrage
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                • Aug 2002
                • 13682

                #82
                Re: Another year, what's the point?

                Originally posted by ODogg
                My point is simple replication as a true purpose makes very little sense. Is our purpose as a species then fulfilled once the entire earth is so packed with humans we no longer have room to reproduce? How does that make one iota of sense?
                What you appear to be experiencing is a state of hopelessness. There isn't going to be one definition of the overall point of life. You'll never find an answer to that.

                For example, I experienced this when I was looking at my coin collection a few years ago. My dad enjoys coin collecting, I enjoy coin collecting, but noone else I know gives a rat about it. So then I started thinking about when I pass on, what is to become of this collection I worked hard to obtain. It gets sold at an estate sale or worse to a pawn shop where some greasy bastard profits from my death. Pretty depressing if you want to look at it that way. I enjoy it so I still do it.

                I just always think about the butterfly effect. I've always tried to help people out along the way where I can. There have been a few examples where I know for sure that I have made a difference in someone's life for the better and they made others better because they paid it forward. Its not the point of life that you are looking for, but making a difference where you can can go along way to destroying the feeling of hopelessness.
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                • areobee401
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                  • Apr 2006
                  • 16771

                  #83
                  Re: Another year, what's the point?

                  As corny as this may sounds life is what you make it.

                  It's that simple
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                  • Bornindamecca
                    Books Nelson Simnation
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 10919

                    #84
                    Re: Another year, what's the point?

                    Originally posted by fistofrage
                    What you appear to be experiencing is a state of hopelessness. There isn't going to be one definition of the overall point of life. You'll never find an answer to that.
                    That is a huge assumption you are taking responsibility for.
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                    • duke776
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                      • Nov 2006
                      • 3044

                      #85
                      Re: Another year, what's the point?

                      Originally posted by areobee401
                      As corny as this may sounds life is what you make it.

                      It's that simple
                      Exactly what I was going to say, I don't believe there is one main purpose for life.

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                      • Mossfan8480
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1169

                        #86
                        Re: Another year, what's the point?

                        I point to the moon and say, "Look at the moon, it is beautiful." Instead of looking at the moon and its beauty, you look at the finger that is pointing.

                        Life is a lot like this. We look for the finger, and when we find it extending out from the hand, we focus on the finger. All the while, missing out on life and its beauty.

                        For thousands of years humanity has been worshiping the finger not life. Break out of the pattern.

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                        • BoomerSooner11
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2203

                          #87
                          Re: Another year, what's the point?

                          Originally posted by trobinson97
                          To live. It's a celebration bitches, enjoy yourself.
                          Yup.
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                          • Bornindamecca
                            Books Nelson Simnation
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 10919

                            #88
                            Re: Another year, what's the point?

                            Originally posted by Mossfan8480
                            I point to the moon and say, "Look at the moon, it is beautiful." Instead of looking at the moon and its beauty, you look at the finger that is pointing.

                            Life is a lot like this. We look for the finger, and when we find it extending out from the hand, we focus on the finger. All the while, missing out on life and its beauty.

                            For thousands of years humanity has been worshiping the finger not life. Break out of the pattern.
                            I feel more of a kinship with the guys who look at the moon and ask, "What does that do?"
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                            • Mossfan8480
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1169

                              #89
                              Re: Another year, what's the point?

                              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                              I feel more of a kinship with the guys who look at the moon and ask, "What does that do?"
                              And why is that my friend?

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                              • Bornindamecca
                                Books Nelson Simnation
                                • Jul 2007
                                • 10919

                                #90
                                Re: Another year, what's the point?

                                Originally posted by Mossfan8480
                                And why is that my friend?
                                Because I feel divinity in function, and I don't mean that in a religious way.
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