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  • MassNole
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    • Mar 2006
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    #16
    Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

    1) The high is short term and doesn't leave you nearly as incapacitated as alcohol would.
    2) That is just not true, at least according to Johns Hopkins.

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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #17
      Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

      Originally posted by MassNole
      1) The high is short term and doesn't leave you nearly as incapacitated as alcohol would.
      2) That is just not true, at least according to Johns Hopkins.
      And that doesn't even touch on the drastic difference in addictive nature between weed and tobacco.

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      • Cusefan
        Earlwolfx on XBL
        • Oct 2003
        • 9820

        #18
        Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

        Originally posted by RAZRr1275
        How is weed less harmful than tobacco?
        1. You don't get high if you smoke a cig.
        2. weed is a lot more likely to cause cancer and other lung issues.
        You apparently never smoked weed because the High you get off of Marijuana is not as bad as being drunk from Alcohol.

        But you are right about #2, a Marijuana joint has about 4X the amount of Tar as a Cigarette but most people do smoke do not smoke weed like they smoke cigarettes.

        The Fact that Marijuana is illegal and Alcohol is legal is stupid. The Longer it is illegal means more bad people will capitalize on it being illegal, Make it Legal and you take away alot of money from Drug Cartels.
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        • MassNole
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          • Mar 2006
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          #19
          Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

          Originally posted by Longhorn
          And that doesn't even touch on the drastic difference in addictive nature between weed and tobacco.
          I guess we just need to accept we live in a more enlightened Commonwealth than most other OSers Longhorn.

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          • RAZRr1275
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            • Sep 2007
            • 9918

            #20
            Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

            Originally posted by MassNole
            1) The high is short term and doesn't leave you nearly as incapacitated as alcohol would.
            2) That is just not true, at least according to Johns Hopkins.
            Studies have also shown links between heavy long-term use (over five joints daily over several years) and incidence of heart attacks, strokes, as well as abnormalities in the amygdala and hippocampus regions of the brain.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-35>[3</SUP>
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            A 2007 study by the Canadian government found cannabis smoke contained more toxic substances than tobacco smoke.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Cannabis_smoke_.27has_more_toxins.27_25-0>[26]</SUP> The study determined that marijuana smoke contained 20 times more ammonia, and five times more hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides than tobacco smoke
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            • MassNole
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
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              #21
              Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

              Originally posted by RAZRr1275
              Studies have also shown links between heavy long-term use (over five joints daily over several years) and incidence of heart attacks, strokes, as well as abnormalities in the amygdala and hippocampus regions of the brain.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-35>[3</SUP>
              <SUP></SUP>
              A 2007 study by the Canadian government found cannabis smoke contained more toxic substances than tobacco smoke.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-Cannabis_smoke_.27has_more_toxins.27_25-0>[26]</SUP> The study determined that marijuana smoke contained 20 times more ammonia, and five times more hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen oxides than tobacco smoke
              Do you know how much 5 JOINTS daily would be? Yes if you drastically over use anything it would be bad for you. One can die from drinking too much water, I guess we should make that illegal too.

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              • bsb13
                Banned
                • Mar 2005
                • 3439

                #22
                Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                The thing about marijuana is that its tough to tell if someone is on it sometimes. Like if I work at a job where we deal with heavy machinery...if someone came into work drunk you will almost notice immediately, but if someone came in high on weed, it might go unnoticed and their stoned @$$ might end up getting someone killed.

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                • Cusefan
                  Earlwolfx on XBL
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 9820

                  #23
                  Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                  Originally posted by Longhorn
                  And that doesn't even touch on the drastic difference in addictive nature between weed and tobacco.
                  Before I joined the Army I smoked weed about 2-3 times a day, i quit Cold Turkey and didnt have a problem for 4 years. I also smoked Cigarettes And I am still addicted ( Grizzly Dip)

                  Marijuana is a mental addiction. Tobacco, Alcohol, Heroin, Cocaine, are physical addictions.
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                  • RAZRr1275
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 9918

                    #24
                    Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                    Originally posted by Cusefan
                    You apparently never smoked weed because the High you get off of Marijuana is not as bad as being drunk from Alcohol.

                    But you are right about #2, a Marijuana joint has about 4X the amount of Tar as a Cigarette but most people do smoke do not smoke weed like they smoke cigarettes.

                    The Fact that Marijuana is illegal and Alcohol is legal is stupid. The Longer it is illegal means more bad people will capitalize on it being illegal, Make it Legal and you take away alot of money from Drug Cartels.
                    I haven't ever smoked weed before. I know people that have though. They started doing coke and other harder drugs, and they were addicted to weed too. Said that they could quit smoking any time and failed to do so.

                    What makes you think that drug cartels won't push dope even more if it is legal?
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                    • RAZRr1275
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 9918

                      #25
                      Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                      Originally posted by bsb13
                      The thing about marijuana is that its tough to tell if someone is on it sometimes. Like if I work at a job where we deal with heavy machinery...if someone came into work drunk you will almost notice immediately, but if someone came in high on weed, it might go unnoticed and their stoned @$$ might end up getting someone killed.
                      Exactly
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                      • Husker_OS
                        Champs
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 21459

                        #26
                        Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                        Originally posted by Cusefan
                        You apparently never smoked weed because the High you get off of Marijuana is not as bad as being drunk from Alcohol.

                        But you are right about #2, a Marijuana joint has about 4X the amount of Tar as a Cigarette but most people do smoke do not smoke weed like they smoke cigarettes.

                        The Fact that Marijuana is illegal and Alcohol is legal is stupid. The Longer it is illegal means more bad people will capitalize on it being illegal, Make it Legal and you take away alot of money from Drug Cartels.
                        You make it legal and this country will become a lot less productive.
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                        • stewaat

                          #27
                          Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                          The problem is that it's illegal. Whether the states are "enlightened" or not the law is what it is. Until it changes you have to respect the law, it's just the way our country is run.

                          I don't view weed as bad and I believe cigarettes are much worse. They are both pointless habits in my mind which eat up disposable income.

                          Bottom line: he's a role model for millions of young people. He isn't some average joe posting on a sports message board. He could have done something much worse, but it just doesn't look good.

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                          • MassNole
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 18848

                            #28
                            Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                            Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                            I haven't ever smoked weed before. I know people that have though. They started doing coke and other harder drugs, and they were addicted to weed too. Said that they could quit smoking any time and failed to do so.

                            What makes you think that drug cartels won't push dope even more if it is legal?
                            The tax money the government would make from it. Plus legality would mean a greater supply, meaning prices go down, meaning cartels have less incentive to peddle it as it wouldn't be profitable anymore.

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                            • Beantown
                              #DoYourJob
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 31523

                              #29
                              Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                              Originally posted by bsb13
                              The thing about marijuana is that its tough to tell if someone is on it sometimes. Like if I work at a job where we deal with heavy machinery...if someone came into work drunk you will almost notice immediately, but if someone came in high on weed, it might go unnoticed and their stoned @$$ might end up getting someone killed.
                              Someone could go into work depressed and end up getting someone killed by accident.

                              Someone could go into work tired and end up getting someone killed.

                              Someone could go into work on over-the-counter medicine, or prescription drugs, and get someone else killed.

                              And on and on and on.

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                              • Cusefan
                                Earlwolfx on XBL
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 9820

                                #30
                                Re: Report: Picture shows Phelps using bong

                                Originally posted by bsb13
                                The thing about marijuana is that its tough to tell if someone is on it sometimes. Like if I work at a job where we deal with heavy machinery...if someone came into work drunk you will almost notice immediately, but if someone came in high on weed, it might go unnoticed and their stoned @$$ might end up getting someone killed.
                                That is true, But why shouldn't a person be able to come home after a long day at work and relax by smoking a joint?

                                Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                                I haven't ever smoked weed before. I know people that have though. They started doing coke and other harder drugs, and they were addicted to weed too. Said that they could quit smoking any time and failed to do so.

                                What makes you think that drug cartels won't push dope even more if it is legal?
                                That Gateway BS is just that. It is typical American thinking, Blame someone else for your problem. By saying Marijuana is a gateway drug releases the person for being held responsible by his friends or family for doing Coke or heroin. It is a personal responsibilty issue, If you Honestly believe that Smoking weed makes someone want to do coke, then you have fallen prey to the hype.

                                Marijuana does not make someone want to do coke, That person wanting to get a "new"buzz or high is the gateway. If weed is a gateway drug, then you might as well call extreme sports a gateway drug too.
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