Baby-faced boy Alfie Patten is father at 13

[GSW]

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maybe i just dont remember what iw as doing when i was 13.

although now that i tihnk about it... trob i think youre right i was tryna give it to a few girls in jr high school

tamara
elizabeth
kim

they were all on my radar

[daflyboys]

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So all you guys were ready to tryna baby it up at 13 also? You were ready?

There's a difference at 13 showing an interest in girls and another thing to actually take it to an intercourse level and be ready to deal with ALL of the possible repercussions.

Pffft and they thought the 60's was the era of the free love attitude. You're generation has put that to shame..... AIDS/Herpes/Genital Warts be damned.

[auburntigersfan]

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So all you guys were ready to tryna baby it up at 13 also? You were ready?

There's a difference at 13 showing an interest in girls and another thing to actually take it to an intercourse level and be ready to deal with ALL of the possible repercussions.

Pffft and they thought the 60's was the era of the free love attitude. You're generation has put that to shame..... AIDS/Herpes/Genital Warts be damned.

No 13 year old is ready for a kid, but if I had an attractive woman (aka not that girl) wanting to have sex with me at age 13 I would have definitely consented.

[trobinson97]

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So all you guys were ready to tryna baby it up at 13 also? You were ready?

There's a difference at 13 showing an interest in girls and another thing to actually take it to an intercourse level and be ready to deal with ALL of the possible repercussions.

Pffft and they thought the 60's was the era of the free love attitude. You're generation has put that to shame..... AIDS/Herpes/Genital Warts be damned.

Of course we weren't ready for kids and I'm sure no one was planning on that. But we thought we were ready for sex, so that was the goal, to get some. Not everyone succeeded at that age, but I don't recall anyone not trying. Most young dudes like me kept a rubber in their wallet or pocket (would go unused for extreme lengths of time but we were prepared) most of the time.

Of course, mistakes do get made; we were kids after all. Sometimes you were in a position where you are with a sure thing, and if you didn't have a condom, you'd think to yourself "Well, she looks clean, and I'll just pull out when the time comes." Sometimes you luck out and don't get a dirty girl but but it's pretty hard for a kid that young, inexperienced and stupid to pull out every time.

My point is, it's just not that surprising to know that 13 year old boys are curious about and experimenting with sex. That seems pretty normal to me. What surprised me was that he's actually 13, he looks like he's my oldest son's age, 8.

[daflyboys]

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*1 But we thought we were ready for sex, so that was the goal, to get some.
*2 Not everyone succeeded at that age, but I don't recall anyone not trying.
*3 Of course, mistakes do get made; we were kids after all.
*4 My point is, it's just not that surprising to know that 13 year old boys are curious about and experimenting with sex.
*5 That seems pretty normal to me.

1. Therefore at some level sex was defined as a conquest / a goal / a prize.
2. Lack of "getting some" = being unsuccessful / a loser.
3. Repercussions and consequences experienced are called "mistakes".
4. Curiosity about something and experimenting are two totally different things.
5. Normality/acceptance of having sex and being curious about sex became equated.

So if you look at the total package above in what you said..... and if you are representing a particular mindset, then the issue/problem lies in what brought you and like minded individuals to develop that mindset. Now, since you revealed that you have an 8 year old son, what will you do with this mindset? Will you be okay if he comes home at 13 and reveals that he is soon to be a father? After all, he's curious, wants to be successful, reach the conquest with girls, wants to experiment....all in the name of what's "normal". Will mistakes be acceptable to you? To his mother?

[trobinson97]

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1. Therefore at some level sex was defined as a conquest / a goal / a prize.

A goal, yes. Your point?

2. Lack of "getting some" = being unsuccessful / a loser.

Where did I say not getting some made you "a loser"? Keep the post in context man. If you try to do anything, and fail to do it, you were unsuccessful in the attempt. That doesn't make you a loser. Also, if you were one of the rare teenagers that wasn't attempting, I never said it would make you a loser or unsuccessful (obviously since you aren't trying).

3. Repercussions and consequences experienced are called "mistakes".

In the situation I put forth, yes.

4. Curiosity about something and experimenting are two totally different things.

Who said they weren't? What's your point please?

5. Normality/acceptance of having sex and being curious about sex became equated.

Right. It's not surprising that a 13 year old boy was curious/experimenting with sex. It happened way before our time too.

So if you look at the total package above in what you said..... and if you are representing a particular mindset, then the issue/problem lies in what brought you and like minded individuals to develop that mindset.

Is that not the answer to everything that occurs in the development from childhood to adulthood? Your experiences shape you in to the person you're going to be. You're not exactly breaking new ground here.

Now, since you revealed that you have an 8 year old son, what will you do with this mindset?
Will you be okay if he comes home at 13 and reveals that he is soon to be a father?

Will I be okay? Yeah, I'll live. Will I be okay with him going out having unprotected sex and making babies at 13? Is that a serious question? As a parent, all I can do is try educate him as much as I can and hope he uses whatever information I've given him to make the best decisions. I can only watch him so much.

After all, he's curious, wants to be successful, reach the conquest with girls, wants to experiment....all in the name of what's "normal". Will mistakes be acceptable to you? To his mother?

Again, he'll be given all that I can give him. It'll be up to him to go out and make the best decision. Will mistakes be acceptable? I have to ask again, is this a serious question? Once a mistake has been made there's nothing to do but accept it. You can't undo what's been done. I might not be happy about it and to be honest it would suck to be in the situation, there is little I can do but accept it and move on from there.

[CMH]

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Daflyboys, are you suggesting that no one before 1980 was having sex at age 13?

[Brandon13]

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Daflyboys, are you suggesting that no one before 1980 was having sex at age 13?

****, it wasn't that long ago when it wasn't very unusual for a thirteen year old to be married.

[CMH]

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****, it wasn't that long ago when it wasn't very unusual for a thirteen year old to be married.

Yes. I don't mean to throw words into his mouth, but I need more clarification on what he means by:

So all you guys were ready to tryna baby it up at 13 also? You were ready?

There's a difference at 13 showing an interest in girls and another thing to actually take it to an intercourse level and be ready to deal with ALL of the possible repercussions.

Pffft and they thought the 60's was the era of the free love attitude. You're generation has put that to shame..... AIDS/Herpes/Genital Warts be damned.

I can't see how there is any reason to say something like this unless you're suggesting that it's a new idea or practice. Men have been having intercourse at 13 perhaps since the beginning of mankind. So, why bring up the 60's as being a better era especially when the 60's was more likely to have young girls be married and have children.

As for AIDS/Herpes/Genital Warts. With the exception of AIDS, which continues to be a fairly hot topic on how long it has existed, Herpes and Genital Warts has been in existence for centuries, probably longer but I won't pretend to know. There are stories of political leaders from even Roman times being inflicted with sexually transmitted diseases. They aren't new. People in the 60's were spreading them too.

Now, if the point was to suggest that people are more likely to have pre-marital sex today than forty years ago, I can buy that. We definitely live in a looser world today where people have finally realized that sex isn't some kind of treasure to keep for marriage.

[av7]

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Giving this a bump

http://news.aol.com/article/british-boy-isnt-father/398888?icid=aimDBDL2_link1-b

(March 26) - The British teen who claimed that an even younger boy fathered her child has a different story to tell after DNA test results showed young Alfie Patten wasn't the dad.

Chantelle Stedman, 15, said she had only slept with Alfie, age 13. Their story touched off international outrage over the moral standards of parents and their children.

[fishepa]

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And I was right.

[Scottdau]

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Which is kinda weird. If he is this young looking and talks like that. I don't think you can produce semen. Maybe I am wrong. I know he is 13, but his hormone, especially his male ones haven't kick in yet. Who knows. My Niece was 15 when she had a baby. So I wish the best for them.

Hm maybe you were right Scottdau.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I'm happy for young Alfie. Now he can go back to pissing the bed and saturday morning cartoons.

[Cebby]

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I call slut

[DTX3]

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I'm happy for young Alfie. Now he can go back to pissing the bed and saturday morning cartoons.