What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

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  • ZB9
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    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #76
    Re: What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

    the drug legalization debate is about morality but even moreso about the obvious negative effects drug use has on society. I could understand legalizing weed (65 percent of the Mexican drug cartel US profit comes from weed), and certainly decriminalizing it further. It is no worse than alcohol. However, there is no way society could afford to legalize hard drugs.

    Though weed has health problems and problems with addiction...it is not close to being at the same level obviously as the effect that hard drugs have on the mind and body (drugs like Meth turns otherwise decent people into devils) and how difficult it is for many people to kick the habit once they start. We do not want to make them readily available and easier to get. We do not want a larger range of people trying hard drugs.

    We can't just allow people to sell drugs like heroine. It has no place in society. People compare it to alcohol, but you can't just have a shot of heroine with dinner and not abuse it....it can't be done. It has few medical benefits and only leads to horrible addiction and either expensive recovery or death. Just because prisons are being built like casinos and there is corruption in our own enforcement authority, that is no reason to throw up our hands and legalize everything.

    The negative effects it would have on society would be overwhelming with first of all the health problems, as well as added financial problems...even more people going broke, stealing stuff for drug money, robbing people, and the cost of detox. It's not worth risking an entire society becoming addicted because the government wants to make it legal so they can tax it. We can't allow people to just kill themselves with addiction and send a bad message to kids that it's OK.

    and here's another thought, in this economic downturn...once you legalize drugs, users can now charge their drug purchase on their credit cards. hmmm...so now, when someone gets addicted, and runs up their credit card debt buying drugs, loses their jobs and files bankruptcy, doesn't pay their bills, lending institutions take a loss. I wonder how bad that could get.
    Last edited by ZB9; 06-13-2009, 07:53 PM.

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    • Cebby
      Banned
      • Apr 2005
      • 22327

      #77
      Re: What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

      Originally posted by deaduck
      Well duh, they were created in a lab but not for recreational usage. Everything you listed was invented with other goals in mind. Let them loose with recreational usage as the goal, we'd end up with something different....something better.
      There are newer substances created to mimic other drugs for the sole purpose of getting high.

      And if your argument is keeping "dangerous" substances away from people, I'd be intrested to hear what your stance is on alcohol/tobacoo.
      I think both are very ingrained in country and almost impossible to eliminate (maybe tobacco in about 20 years). I don't think either is a "good" thing, but alcohol isn't addictive or all that damaging without excessive use and tobacco's addictiveness doesn't produce the negative affects that meth, crack, and heroin do.

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      • deaduck
        MVP
        • Mar 2009
        • 2389

        #78
        Re: What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

        Originally posted by Cebby
        There are newer substances created to mimic other drugs for the sole purpose of getting high.
        Never heard of anything like that. You got a link or a heads up so I can read up on them?

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        • Cebby
          Banned
          • Apr 2005
          • 22327

          #79
          Re: What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

          Originally posted by deaduck
          Never heard of anything like that. You got a link or a heads up so I can read up on them?
          Pretty much every hallucinogen aside from shrooms, LSD, DMT, and Datura.

          Most, if not all of the 2C- family were created for ****s and giggles, as well as other forms of DMT and a few others. They're mostly made to mimic the effects of DMT, LSD, and/or MDMA. Generally known as "research chemicals" and are at least partially legal.

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          • Brandon13
            All Star
            • Oct 2005
            • 8915

            #80
            Re: What Are Some Rights Citizens Have When Dealing With The Law?

            Originally posted by deaduck
            Never heard of anything like that. You got a link or a heads up so I can read up on them?
            They're out there... and I've heard they're pretty similar to the real thing.

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