The younger generation and their view on "snitchin and loyalty"

[mgoblue]

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Anyway, I told the kids in the class that if he wouldn't have spoke up for himself, I would have had no problem telling the police that it belonged to him because I'm not willing to go down for his own stupid mistake. The kids went crazy. The room was cluttered with quotes like "Where's the loyalty", "man you ain't no real friend" and "you a straight snitch homie". I simply told them that a real friend would step up and not let you take the fall for something they did. They weren't buying it though.

I just think it is sad to know that some many of these kids think like that. Willing to throw everything away for show some freaking "loyalty" to someone who probably wouldn't even do the same for you anyway. Its crazy. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

I agree...why should you be loyal to some guy willing to throw you under the bus at the first opportunity?

[Trevytrev11]

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I think that's a wonderful idea... but... lets say just one kid turns the plant in. Wouldn't that kid be subject to beatings by his classmates for being a snitch?

If it's just one kid, the teacher could always play it off and say that the student was also in on it as well.

I don't know how many kids are in the class or if they have assigned seating, but you could do it such a way that only the teacher would know who the snitch(es) were via a secret plea deal.

Here is what I would do.

Say you have thirty seats in the class (6 rows of 5 seats)

Prior to the start of class, put a piece of paper on each desk.

On the back of each paper, have a small, unique mark (a small dot) that would correspond to each seat. (Example, down the left side of the paper, space out small marks on each paper (one mark per paper) that corresponds to each seat.

Ex: For seat #1, the mark would be in the top corner, for seat #2, it would be 1/2 inch below that and each one would be 1/2 below the previous...all in a way so you knew what paper correspnded to each seat.

Tell the students you are giving them all one chance to discretely point out the thief. No one will ever know who the person is who is giving the name, they will have complete anomyninity(sp?), etc. Have the students write a name and fold up the paper and put it in a box or something.

(If they have assigned seating, you will already know what sheet belongs to what student...if not you can write down everyones seat for that day while they are doing this).

Give the results the next day. You don't have to name names, but based on the results you can cleverly tell them that most of their actions speak differently than their words and when it came down to it, many or few of those that claimed to be loyal, really weren't.

It'd just be kind of neat to see the outcome and it may be a learning tool for them.

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**Another thought...have the plant be the toughest and meanest kid in the class...that way there is fear involved and he could tell anyone that see's him do it that if they tell on him, there will be ramifications...or maybe he doesn't need to say anything because he is already feared.

[SPTO]

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I agree with the majority here, when you're faced with the cold hard facts and facing jail time well, there's going to be names flying all over the place.

The kind of "anti-snitching" people that burn me up the most are when you have like 20 people witness someone getting killed or beaten etc etc and not a soul comes out to say what happened. Is there no sympathy for your fellow man? I mean most of the time when one gives information like that it's often anonymous but it's somehow "breaking the code" to tell the cops what happened.

Of course this goes beyond kids who think snitching is bad because i've heard stories of everyday people who sees something happen yet keep their mouths shut.

[Po Pimp]

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My thing is this...

If you know something illegal is going down, and it involved u or someone's safety, then by all means, tell someone.

If something illegal is going down, but there are no victims (like stealing something off a freight train), no reason to tell

If you are involved in illegal activity, and u get caught, but your accomplice gets away, but u tell on him to get less time, u are by all means, the true definition of a SNITCH

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Cam'ron is the biggest anti-snitch ever. If there was a serial killer living next door to him he wouldn't tell anyone, instead he would just move away because you if you snitch your not cool.

I think it depends though for me. If my best friend did something stupid like i dont know drink underage and someone asked me if he was drinking I wouldnt snitch on him.

If my best friend killed someone then I would tell on him.

[Po Pimp]

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Cam'ron is the biggest anti-snitch ever. If there was a serial killer living next door to him he wouldn't tell anyone, instead he would just move away because you if you snitch your not cool.

I think it depends though for me. If my best friend did something stupid like i dont know drink underage and someone asked me if he was drinking I wouldnt snitch on him.

If my best friend killed someone then I would tell on him.

Some friend you are! No seriously, it depends on how close they were and who they killed. If it was like my best friend, and they killed someone during a fight, I wouldn't tell on my friend (but they better stay the hell away from me). If I got word that my friend was like a serial killer or something crazy like that, we're no longer friends, and he deserves to go to jail.

[McLite]

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Has anyone watched the show DEA on spike? Man it was really funny watching those people snitch at the drop of a hat to avoid their charges. Some were like "i cant snitch" then they would be told "so you want 20 years?" and names would fly. And not even just names, they would set up their "friend." Thats snitching. Its annoying what kids will follow.

I've seen this many times. Once the steel bracelets go on you'd be surprised how much the "tough guys" wanna talk. Don't believe the stop snitching hype for one second...for 95% of them there is absolute zero loyalty.

[Buckeyes_Doc]

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Some friend you are! No seriously, it depends on how close they were and who they killed. If it was like my best friend, and they killed someone during a fight, I wouldn't tell on my friend (but they better stay the hell away from me). If I got word that my friend was like a serial killer or something crazy like that, we're no longer friends, and he deserves to go to jail.

I meant like if they shot someone and it was intentional or if it was an innocent victim.

There are always different situations. Say he was getting jumped and was protecting himself and punched some guy, that guy hit his head on the pavement killing him I probably wouldnt say anything.

[Vince]

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The onus is on the dude with the drugs to protect his friends who had nothing to do with it...He would be a far greater douchebag to let his friends suffer for his wrongdoing..

[Scottdau]

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They only hate snitches because thats what they hear on the radio. Lets see how loyal they really are when they are facing 20 years in prison.

One of my students went down for murder and they didn't do it. But they believe snitching is wrong and if he did snitch he knew he would get killed once he gets out. He is a gang member and they take that stuff serious.

[MC Fatigue]

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I think the whole thing is stupid.

You'd better believe that if I witnessed someone doing something illegal, I'm calling the cops. I don't care if it's doesn't involve me either (as one person said); I'll describe the person as best I can to police and that will be that. I'm not going to sit around in my house knowing that I could help them catch the person because I'm afraid of being a "snitch".

I'm also not the younger generation... Or I am depending on what generation you're from... But I figured I'd answer.

[mgoblue678]

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I think the whole thing is stupid.

You'd better believe that if I witnessed someone doing something illegal, I'm calling the cops. I don't care if it's doesn't involve me either (as one person said); I'll describe the person as best I can to police and that will be that. I'm not going to sit around in my house knowing that I could help them catch the person because I'm afraid of being a "snitch".

I'm also not the younger generation... Or I am depending on what generation you're from... But I figured I'd answer.

Feel exactly the same way. Same thing as people getting pissed at a cop for giving them a speeding ticket when they are going 30 mph over the speed limit for example.

Don't blame the person who made the moral choice to turn them in, blame the person who committed the crime and deserved what they got.

Quite frankly some of the responses in this thread show the problem with this mentality. Saying things like I wouldn't turn my best friend in for killing someone unless they were a serial killer or something. Don't care even the person is my best friend, they kill someone unless it was self-defense and they deserve to go to jail.

I am only 20 so I would be considered part of the younger generation but as you can see my opinion is different than a lot of people my age or younger on this subject.

[Po Pimp]

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I think the whole thing is stupid.

You'd better believe that if I witnessed someone doing something illegal, I'm calling the cops. I don't care if it's doesn't involve me either (as one person said); I'll describe the person as best I can to police and that will be that. I'm not going to sit around in my house knowing that I could help them catch the person because I'm afraid of being a "snitch".

I'm also not the younger generation... Or I am depending on what generation you're from... But I figured I'd answer.

I mean, yeah I would tell someone, but it depends on what said illegal activity is. If it's something serious like murder or rape, hell yeah I would intervene or tell authorities. If someone I knew came up on like 20 brand new XBox 360s, I'm not gonna snitch. It's none of my business.

[mgoblue678]

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^^Sorry man, if you know somebody committed a crime it should be your business. Pretty sure in that example that those people who spent their hard earned money on those Xbox 360's would want the person who knew who did it to make it their business.

A person who steals 20 Xbox's definitely deserves some prison time. That isn't like stealing a $2 packet of gum from the store, that is about $6000 worth of electronics. Why would I even want to associated with somebody who does that anyway?

[Trevytrev11]

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I think the whole thing is stupid.

You'd better believe that if I witnessed someone doing something illegal, I'm calling the cops. I don't care if it's doesn't involve me either (as one person said); I'll describe the person as best I can to police and that will be that. I'm not going to sit around in my house knowing that I could help them catch the person because I'm afraid of being a "snitch".

I don't think this topic pertains so much to strangers committing crimes as I think most would do their best to help out solve the crime, but more of friends or peers. Would your actions change if it was a friend, a good friend or a family member?

Your brother or best friend comes to you and says last night he smoked too much pot or drank to much, drove home and went to sleep. The next morning on his way out he see's a dead body in the road and then remembers hitting something big on that road and thinks that he killed the person, but isn't going to the cops because he doesn't want to get busted.

Do your actions change?

What if you are confident they will never link him to the crime? Do you voluntarily offer him up to the police?

If the answer is no, what if he was driving your car and someone ID'd the car and now it's your butt on the line?