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  • VanCitySportsGuy
    NYG_Meth
    • Feb 2003
    • 9351

    #1

    Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

    http://thebiglead.com/?p=30686

    First off it must be really nice to have that cash to throw away in the first place.

    He's basically suing the casino's because he had no self control. I plan on eating KFC for the next month and then I'm going to sue because their food made me fat.
  • youvalss
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    • Feb 2007
    • 16601

    #2
    Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

    I bet he's gonna lose this one too...
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    • J0nnD0ugh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 16602

      #3
      Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

      While I think the lawsuit is frivilous, I do think something should be done to keep casinos aiding & abetting addictions like this. I may turn myself to an alcoholic, but the liquor store shouldn't allow me all the booze I want went w/o payment when its clear I've already gotten drunk. Companies do all these credit checks if they are going to give you a loan. So casinos should be able to tell if a guy has a problem.
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      • Burns11
        Greatness Has Arrived
        • Mar 2007
        • 7406

        #4
        Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

        That's easy enough to say, but if they had cut this guy off $50 million ago he would be suing now saying they didn't afford him the opportunity to win his money back.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52762

          #5
          Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

          Originally posted by Burns11
          That's easy enough to say, but if they had cut this guy off $50 million ago he would be suing now saying they didn't afford him the opportunity to win his money back.
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          • matt8204
            MVP
            • Sep 2008
            • 1164

            #6
            Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

            If they didn't accomodate him, he'd probably be suing for discrimination of some type. Sometimes you truly can't win in this world.

            This is ridiculous. It's not their fault he has an addiction. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions?
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            • VanCitySportsGuy
              NYG_Meth
              • Feb 2003
              • 9351

              #7
              Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

              Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
              While I think the lawsuit is frivilous, I do think something should be done to keep casinos aiding & abetting addictions like this. I may turn myself to an alcoholic, but the liquor store shouldn't allow me all the booze I want went w/o payment when its clear I've already gotten drunk. Companies do all these credit checks if they are going to give you a loan. So casinos should be able to tell if a guy has a problem.
              In your example, I would still blame the person getting more drinks. I’m sick and tired of people blaming other people for their own problems and not accepting responsibility.

              The casino's should win the case in court. Nobody put a gun to the gamblers head to continue in his destructive ways. The man was simply a weak minded individual that had no self control.

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              • Chaos81
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2004
                • 17150

                #8
                Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                I do think something should be done to keep casinos aiding & abetting addictions like this.
                It's against the law in Nevada.

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                • DickDalewood

                  #9
                  Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                  Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                  While I think the lawsuit is frivilous, I do think something should be done to keep casinos aiding & abetting addictions like this. I may turn myself to an alcoholic, but the liquor store shouldn't allow me all the booze I want went w/o payment when its clear I've already gotten drunk. Companies do all these credit checks if they are going to give you a loan. So casinos should be able to tell if a guy has a problem.
                  Totally disagree. If you're going to drink all those drinks or lose all that money that's a you problem. Have some self control and stop being a loser... seriously. No one takes responsibility for anything anymore, and instead finds ways to place blame.

                  If you're fat, work out and stop shoving Quarter Pounders down your throat. If you drink too much, stop going to bars. If you lose tons of money gambling, stop going to casinos.

                  Even being ALLOWED to sue over something like this just makes me sick.

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                  • J0nnD0ugh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 16602

                    #10
                    Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                    Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

                    I under no circumstances say the guy isn't responsible for his own actions. But our own human consciences should prevent us from taking advantage of a person's serious vulnerabilities.

                    If any of us were to go to a company for a loan, we would expect a strenuous background check. Because we would expect the company to act responsibly. I don't know why they can't be made to do their own due diligence in the gambling industry.

                    As individuals, the moral law should be higher than the legal one. The casinos should feel an obligation. Overly idealistic in this world, I know. But that's how I feel.
                    Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                    I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                    -August 17, 1960
                    Thanks, dookies!

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                    • Burns11
                      Greatness Has Arrived
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 7406

                      #11
                      Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                      Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                      Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

                      I under no circumstances say the guy isn't responsible for his own actions. But our own human consciences should prevent us from taking advantage of a person's serious vulnerabilities.

                      If any of us were to go to a company for a loan, we would expect a strenuous background check. Because we would expect the company to act responsibly. I don't know why they can't be made to do their own due diligence in the gambling industry.

                      As individuals, the moral law should be higher than the legal one. The casinos should feel an obligation. Overly idealistic in this world, I know. But that's how I feel.

                      Huh? I don't get the analogy. The guy lost 127 million that he has to lose, he's already paid all but 14 mil, he is just refusing to pay back money he gambled away that he took out as a loan. So this casino, given that the guy has the credit, means and personal relationship with the company shouldn't have given him a loan?

                      I think there is more to this story, guy runs around Vegas like a big shot, throwing money around on credit, pays most of it back along the way, realizes he is losing a lot of money, decides to gamble on credit and just not pay it back, casino tells him they can't accommodate him unless he pays back this money, kicks him out of the casino when he refuses, guy gets mad and decides to sue.
                      Last edited by Burns11; 12-08-2009, 11:49 PM.

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                      • J0nnD0ugh
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2003
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                        #12
                        Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                        The analogy means we should go the extra mile to help others just as they go the extra mile to make sure they get paid.
                        Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                        I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                        -August 17, 1960
                        Thanks, dookies!

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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52762

                          #13
                          Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                          Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                          The analogy means we should go the extra mile to help others just as they go the extra mile to make sure they get paid.
                          How does a casino determine if someone has a gambling addiction or if they have surpassed their limit of affordability?

                          With alcohol, if a person comes in drunk then its pretty obvious they don't need another drink. But its not like gamblers with an addiction stand out in a crowd. Its not obvious to tell that person A at the poker table is a gambling addict or that person B at the Blackjack table has surpassed his limit of affordability.

                          But in any event, people have to be responsible for themselves. If you can only afford to lose $500 at the Casino then don't take more than $500 and leave your credit cards and bank cards at home.
                          Last edited by countryboy; 12-09-2009, 11:59 AM.
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                          • matt8204
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1164

                            #14
                            Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
                            Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

                            I under no circumstances say the guy isn't responsible for his own actions. But our own human consciences should prevent us from taking advantage of a person's serious vulnerabilities.

                            If any of us were to go to a company for a loan, we would expect a strenuous background check. Because we would expect the company to act responsibly. I don't know why they can't be made to do their own due diligence in the gambling industry.

                            As individuals, the moral law should be higher than the legal one. The casinos should feel an obligation. Overly idealistic in this world, I know. But that's how I feel.
                            But think about it; if they refuse to serve him because he's an addict and they tell him that, what if he turns around and sues them for character assassination or discrimination? He has a right to spend his money as he sees fit, but with that comes consequences. I don't think it's the casino's responsibility to babysit people, least of all grown adults who understand what they're doing.
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                            • J0nnD0ugh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 16602

                              #15
                              Re: Gambler Suing Casinos After Losing 127 Million in Las Vegas

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              How does a casino determine if someone has a gambling addiction or if they have surpassed their limit of affordability?
                              I have no idea. but I would think losing 9 figures would be a pretty good sign somebody has a problem.

                              With alcohol, if a person comes in drunk then its pretty obvious they don't need another drink. But its not like gamblers with an addiction stand out in a crowd. Its not obvious to tell that person A at the poker table is a gambling addict or that person B at the Blackjack table has surpassed his limit of affordability.
                              Like I said, I have no idea how to implement it. But I'm sure people in the industry do. I find it hard to believe that in this day & age where your whole economic footprint is there for just about anyone to acquire, casinos don't have the ability to know.

                              But in any event, people have to be responsible for themselves. If you can only afford to lose $500 at the Casino then don't take more than $500 and leave your credit cards and bank cards at home.
                              Never denied the lawsuit wasn't frivilous.

                              Originally posted by matt8204
                              But think about it; if they refuse to serve him because he's an addict and they tell him that, what if he turns around and sues them for character assassination or discrimination? He has a right to spend his money as he sees fit, but with that comes consequences. I don't think it's the casino's responsibility to babysit people, least of all grown adults who understand what they're doing.
                              The law could protect them from such a lawsuit if the law also required casinos to watch for people w/problems.
                              Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                              I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                              -August 17, 1960
                              Thanks, dookies!

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