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  • jim416
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 10606

    #106
    Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

    Originally posted by mvb34
    not really but okay..
    Are you saying he was put there because he's guilty? Wrong.

    It may not be political, but the department probably had their phones ringing off the hook. It's very standard to remove an officer from the street pending........And don't worry there is a thing called the Police Officers Bill of Rights. He's going to be properly represented. Why? Because any jackass can come into a police department and file a complaint, warranted, or not, they have to check them all out.

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    • mvb34
      S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
      • Jul 2002
      • 8138

      #107
      Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

      Originally posted by jim416
      Are you saying he was put there because he's guilty? Wrong.

      It may not be political, but the department probably had their phones ringing off the hook. It's very standard to remove an officer from the street pending........And don't worry there is a thing called the Police Officers Bill of Rights. He's going to be properly represented. Why? Because any jackass can come into a police department and file a complaint, warranted, or not, they have to check them all out.
      He didn't have to pull out the gun!!
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      • countryboy
        Growing pains
        • Sep 2003
        • 52766

        #108
        Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

        Originally posted by mvb34
        He didn't have to pull out the gun!!
        Put yourself in his position. What would you have honestly done?

        People keep faulting him for pulling his weapon but offer no opinion on how they would've handled the situation.
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        • KG
          Welcome Back
          • Sep 2005
          • 17583

          #109
          Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

          Good 'ole U street. An interesting mix of folks down there.

          That first snowball that hit Det. Baylor was right on the money, best throw in DC all year.
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          • MrJackFlash
            Banned
            • Dec 2009
            • 57

            #110
            Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

            Originally posted by countryboy
            Put yourself in his position. What would you have honestly done?

            People keep faulting him for pulling his weapon but offer no opinion on how they would've handled the situation.
            I know how I wouldn't have handled it,and that's by pulling a gun.

            I swear it's gotten to the point if you look at a cop they're pulling out the heat.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #111
              Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

              Originally posted by MrJackFlash
              I know how I wouldn't have handled it,and that's by pulling a gun.

              I swear it's gotten to the point if you look at a cop they're pulling out the heat.
              Hind sight is 20/20.

              Plus, it's extremely easy to say that sitting in your bed on the laptop.
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              • kehlis
                Moderator
                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #112
                Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                Originally posted by Pared
                Hind sight is 20/20.
                Exactly!

                It's quite a bit easier after the fact, knowing the result to say he shouldn't have had the gun out.

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                • mvb34
                  S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8138

                  #113
                  Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                  Originally posted by countryboy
                  Put yourself in his position. What would you have honestly done?

                  People keep faulting him for pulling his weapon but offer no opinion on how they would've handled the situation.
                  Let see.. its a blizzard, people are throwing snowballs. I get out not in uniform. The first I don't grab is my GUN. I show my badge.. He had walkie taklie so call for backup ..
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                  • Mo
                    SSN
                    • May 2003
                    • 11425

                    #114
                    Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                    Originally posted by mvb34
                    Let see.. its a blizzard, people are throwing snowballs. I get out not in uniform. The first I don't grab is my GUN. I show my badge.. He had walkie taklie so call for backup ..
                    At least based on the video posted here, what make you think he didn't identify himself, or call for backup before he gets out of the car.

                    Also if people respected the badge, cops wouldn't need to carry guns.

                    Also people wanted the detective to act like the patrolman, but the patrolman had his hand on the gun ready to fire, like he's trained to do, like the detective was doing.
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                    • mvb34
                      S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8138

                      #115
                      Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                      Originally posted by miget33
                      At least based on the video posted here, what make you think he didn't identify himself, or call for backup before he gets out of the car.

                      Also if people respected the badge, cops wouldn't need to carry guns.

                      Also people wanted the detective to act like the patrolman, but the patrolman had his hand on the gun ready to fire, like he's trained to do, like the detective was doing.

                      Because he got hit with snowball.. Plus when the video starts he's already out of the car with gun in one hand and walkie talkie in the other..
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                      • countryboy
                        Growing pains
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 52766

                        #116
                        Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                        Originally posted by mvb34
                        Let see.. its a blizzard, people are throwing snowballs. I get out not in uniform. The first I don't grab is my GUN. I show my badge.. He had walkie taklie so call for backup ..
                        He identified himself. And he called for backup.

                        People are throwing snowballs at cars and then taunting the officer. They are on the brink of becoming, if not already disorderly. His only means of protection and keeping the situation under control is his weapon. He's significantly outnumbered.

                        And I'll say this...if your mentallity is to go into that type of situation, where its almost chaotic, and not have your gun readily available in case its needed, then you are more than likely going to end up on the wrong end of a bad situation.

                        He didn't point the gun at anybody, he didn't threaten anybody with the gun, nor did he wave it around. He pulled the gun from the holster, and had it available should he need it. I honestly can't believe, people are going to fault the officer for doing what he thought was necessary to provide himself with protection, in a chaotic situation.

                        It seems to me that people are using the idea of that its snowing to cover up the fact that this could've been a potentially dangerous situation for any officer. What if it wasn't snowing and these people were being disorderly, and he showed up to break them up? Would you still fault the officer for removing his gun from his holster and having it readily available in case he needed it to protect himself?
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                        • countryboy
                          Growing pains
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 52766

                          #117
                          Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                          Originally posted by mvb34
                          Because he got hit with snowball.. Plus when the video starts he's already out of the car with gun in one hand and walkie talkie in the other..
                          so an edited video provides 100% fact? What happened before the video started rolling?
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                          • mvb34
                            S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8138

                            #118
                            Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                            Originally posted by countryboy
                            He identified himself. And he called for backup.

                            People are throwing snowballs at cars and then taunting the officer. They are on the brink of becoming, if not already disorderly. His only means of protection and keeping the situation under control is his weapon. He's significantly outnumbered.

                            And I'll say this...if your mentallity is to go into that type of situation, where its almost chaotic, and not have your gun readily available in case its needed, then you are more than likely going to end up on the wrong end of a bad situation.

                            He didn't point the gun at anybody, he didn't threaten anybody with the gun, nor did he wave it around. He pulled the gun from the holster, and had it available should he need it. I honestly can't believe, people are going to fault the officer for doing what he thought was necessary to provide himself with protection, in a chaotic situation.

                            It seems to me that people are using the idea of that its snowing to cover up the fact that this could've been a potentially dangerous situation for any officer. What if it wasn't snowing and these people were being disorderly, and he showed up to break them up? Would you still fault the officer for removing his gun from his holster and having it readily available in case he needed it to protect himself?
                            If he were in the right then he should be backed up by the Chief of police and not be put on desk duties..
                            Last edited by mvb34; 12-22-2009, 01:00 PM.
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                            • mvb34
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #119
                              Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              so an edited video provides 100% fact? What happened before the video started rolling?
                              I only can go by the videos and by reading the articles from the event..
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                              • countryboy
                                Growing pains
                                • Sep 2003
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                                #120
                                Re: DC Cop pulls gun after people throw snowballs at cars.

                                Originally posted by mvb34
                                I only can go by the videos and by reading the articles from the event..
                                Exactly...which doesn't equate to 100% fact. These videos have been edited..no telling what was cut out of the video and what agenda the videographer is trying to promote.

                                Maybe the cop the got out of his car waved his gun and threatened to shoot everyone there and it was edited out in an effort to protect the detective and character of the department. Maybe he followed proper protocol and that was edited out so in an effor to promote him as being in the wrong.
                                Last edited by countryboy; 12-22-2009, 01:05 PM.
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