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  • onlybygrace
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    • Jan 2009
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    #61
    Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

    Originally posted by ChubbyBanana
    Would you know who died or would it be random? Also would you be attributed with the death? Would people know your greed killed the person?

    If the answers are random and it's a secret then I'd probably do it.



    Yes, I'm a horrible person. Flame me. I see enough dead people a week that I don't know that it would probably be no different feeling for me than any of those "accidents" or "murders".

    In my profession if you don't turn those feelings off you won't last long. Is that wrong? Probably. But it's just a way of life.

    So yes, I'd probably do it. I'm not sure how many times I would do it though.

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    Originally posted by Sting
    They'd understand. I'd play the percentages that the random person would be one of the other billions of people and not my people. I wouldn't even lose a wink of sleep over this to be quite honest.
    Wow...not even a wink of sleep??? You're so cool.

    Its not wise to go parading arrogantly about how you're so icy cold and turn around and say, "I'm just being honest", okay???

    Your not being honest, you're being ignorant. Big difference.

    Not even a wink...whatever.

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    • Scottdau
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      • Feb 2003
      • 32580

      #62
      Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

      Originally posted by onlybygrace
      Wow...not even a wink of sleep??? You're so cool.

      Its not wise to go parading arrogantly about how you're so icy cold and turn around and say, "I'm just being honest", okay???

      Your not being honest, you're being ignorant. Big difference.

      Not even a wink...whatever.
      Yep, but it is apart of life. I lost 5 students this year to being gunned down. And since I started teaching at the J Hall, I have lost about 15 students in 4 years and it might be even higher. This all the ones that were in the paper. But I agree I could never take a life of someone even if it is was to save my own son.

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      • z Revis
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        • Oct 2008
        • 13639

        #63
        Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

        Originally posted by onlybygrace
        Whats the difference in just going out and killing someone then???
        There's a huge difference. The OP didn't clarify, but I'm just assuming here - In this scenario, you wouldn't be the one killing the person. Meaning, you wouldn't have that fatal image of watching someone die, a person you physically killed, inside your head for the rest of your life(which you would have if you just went out and randomly killed a person). With the OP's scenario, you would simply have to live with the guilt that your decision making killed a random person somewhere in the world. You wouldn't have that image though. You wouldn't know who that person was, you wouldn't know what he/she looked like, you wouldn't know how they died, you wouldn't know what their lives were like, how old they were, etc. It could be a murderer in prison or it could be a 10 year old little girl. You wouldn't know. There's a big difference.

        If the OP's scenario were different, say you'd get 100k if you went out and physically killed a random person, I'd be shocked if anyone here would do that.

        Originally posted by Scottdau
        But I agree I could never take a life of someone even if it is was to save my own son.
        See, I agree with what people are saying. I wouldn't take the 100k because I don't think I could live with myself, knowing that my actions are the reason someone is dead. That said, I don't agree with the last part of your statement. I don't see how anyone can justify that. You'd rather let your son die? Over what? Because of the guilt you'd have knowing that you killed a random person? It doesn't make sense to me. What about the guilt you'd have knowing that your son is dead because you didn't take the money to save his life?

        I completely understand not taking the money for your own personal reasons as I wouldn't do that either. But if the money were to save my own son(I don't have a son.. just using your example here), I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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        • Scottdau
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          • Feb 2003
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          #64
          Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

          Originally posted by z Revis
          There's a huge difference. The OP didn't clarify, but I'm just assuming here - In this scenario, you wouldn't be the one killing the person. Meaning, you wouldn't have that fatal image of watching someone die, a person you physically killed, inside your head for the rest of your life(which you would have if you just went out and randomly killed a person). With the OP's scenario, you would simply have to live with the guilt that your decision making killed a random person somewhere in the world. You wouldn't have that image though. You wouldn't know who that person was, you wouldn't know what he/she looked like, you wouldn't know how they died, you wouldn't know what their lives were like, how old they were, etc. It could be a murderer in prison or it could be a 10 year old little girl. You wouldn't know. There's a big difference.

          If the OP's scenario were different, say you'd get 100k if you went out and physically killed a random person, I'd be shocked if anyone here would do that.



          See, I agree with what people are saying. I wouldn't take the 100k because I don't think I could live with myself, knowing that my actions are the reason someone is dead. That said, I don't agree with the last part of your statement. I don't see how anyone can justify that. You'd rather let your son die? Over what? Because of the guilt you'd have knowing that you killed a random person? It doesn't make sense to me. What about the guilt you'd have knowing that your son is dead because you didn't take the money to save his life?

          I completely understand not taking the money for your own personal reasons as I wouldn't do that either. But if the money were to save my own son(I don't have a son.. just using your example here), I'd do it in a heartbeat.
          Even if the money could say my son I would not do it. It is a tough, but I just believe that.

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          • z Revis
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            • Oct 2008
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            #65
            Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

            Originally posted by Scottdau
            Even if the money could say my son I would not do it. It is a tough, but I just believe that.
            Why? I really don't get it. It's either your son or a random person somewhere in the world. And you choose the random person somewhere in the world??
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            • bill2451
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              • Jan 2009
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              #66
              Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

              zRevis, I don't know if you've ever dealt with death closely or not, but if not then that could explain your difference in opinion

              now, I'm smart enough to know that I don't truly know what I'd do in this situation until I was actually put in it, but as someone who's lost a sibling at a young age, I wouldn't wish that upon anyone (let alone be the cause of it). I can't imagine myself potentially causing someone else in this world that kind of pain to save the life of someone I know. What is the value of one life over another? (and if you say you know the one person, then how is that any better than taking the 100K because you want a new car... in the end it is for selfish reasons)

              Now, for me the bigger gray area is what if you could save 2 lives by taking the 100K. Basically, the trolley question. Cause 1 death to save 2... or as someone else mentioned, what about taking 100K every week, killing 52 people, and then saving tens of thousands of people from starvation. If you did that would it still be morally wrong?

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              • Scottdau
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                • Feb 2003
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                #67
                Its pretty simple at least to me it is. If my son was dying and I needed the money I would still not do it. Some one is going to miss that person, I can't live with that, knowing that I caused that.

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                • Scottdau
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #68
                  Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

                  Bill beat me to it. I lost my brother about 11 year ago. He was 33 when he died and I was 27. I would not wish that on anyone. Even if it meant to save my own son. Iam not saying it is easy, but I can't be the cause of that.

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                  • Scottdau
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #69
                    Bill I would say it is wrong even if u save more people.

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                    • z Revis
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                      • Oct 2008
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                      #70
                      Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

                      Originally posted by bill2451
                      zRevis, I don't know if you've ever dealt with death closely or not, but if not then that could explain your difference in opinion
                      Yeah, you may be right. I'm fortunate to have not been in that situation many times. The last and pretty much only person who has died that was close to me was my grandpa back in 2002. It was tough, but probably not nearly as tough as losing a parent, sibling, or child(and he died of old age too, so he lived a long and healthy life.. it was just his time to go as they say).
                      Last edited by z Revis; 04-14-2010, 02:36 PM.
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                      • Sting
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                        • Nov 2004
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                        #71
                        Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

                        Originally posted by onlybygrace
                        Wow...not even a wink of sleep??? You're so cool.

                        Its not wise to go parading arrogantly about how you're so icy cold and turn around and say, "I'm just being honest", okay???

                        Your not being honest, you're being ignorant. Big difference.

                        Not even a wink...whatever.
                        wtf??

                        I am being honest. What I am not being is unrealistic. Don't get your feelings hurt when someone doesn't feel the way that you do. Do you want me to attack how you feel on the subject like you're trying to do to me? Because I easily could..there would be some female traits thrown towards you. But I'm not bothered by your opinion. Don't let me get under your skin. Breathe. Let it out. Breathe again. Repeat several times. You'll be fine.

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                        • Buckeyes_Doc
                          In Dalton I Trust
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11918

                          #72
                          Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

                          Originally posted by z Revis
                          Let's not get technical about it. This is a hypothetical question. lol.



                          So what you are essentially saying is that you would rather have a relative of yours die than indirectly killing a random person?

                          As I said in my scenario, SOMEONE is going to die EITHER WAY. You take the money, a random person dies. You don't take the money, your relative dies. So you're saying you'd rather just let your relative die just because you wouldn't be able to live with the guilt of indirectly killing a random person? What about the guilt you'd have of not saving your relatives life?
                          Yes thats what I'm saying. It sucks and it is very though but I have had people close to me die. It is a tough thing to live with. I would NEVER cause another family to go through what I did to save a relative. I would hate losing a son or relative but you know what it would hurt me a lot more to look in the mirror everyday and know I caused another persons death, and that my son is living and another family might of lost their son. And everytime I would look at my son I would be haunted that another family is grieving right now because of me. Yes people die everyday but the difference here is I'm the reason they died. I just couldn't do it. Does it make sense to you that I would choose not to save my son? Probably not but to me it is right and my idea on this will not change.
                          Last edited by Buckeyes_Doc; 04-14-2010, 12:34 PM.
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                          • ChubbyBanana
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                            • Oct 2003
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                            #73
                            Re: What would you do? (Money/Death)

                            Originally posted by DC
                            Wonder how many of yall understood the R Kelly reference
                            DC I figured you might get it. Not like it was a hit song or anything from back in the day.

                            I'm just gonna let them figure it out themselves. But if they look at what I quoted and the pic they should be able to get it.
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